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  • gotta be the bully in this one punch the fuckers square in the mouth. First play

  • Browns roster: Elevate 2 for Ravens game

    Austin Watkins, AJ Green but not an offensive lineman up for Browns in Week 10

  • Browns
    Player Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status
    David Bell WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out
    Joel Bitonio G   Did Not Participate In Practice  
    Amari Cooper WR   Full Participation in Practice  
    Grant Delpit S   Full Participation in Practice  
    Myles Garrett DE   Did Not Participate In Practice  
    Marquise Goodwin WR Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out
    Nick Harris C   Full Participation in Practice  
    Dawand Jones T Knee, Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Out
    Greg Newsome II CB Groin Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
    David Njoku TE   Full Participation in Practice  
    Ogbo Okoronkwo DE   Full Participation in Practice  
    Pierre Strong RB Hamstring Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
    Deshaun Watson QB   Full Participation in Practice  
    Alex Wright DE   Limited Participation in Practice  
     
    Ravens
    Player Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status
    Jalyn Armour-Davis CB Illness Full Participation in Practice Questionable
    Rashod Bateman WR   Full Participation in Practice  
    Odell Beckham Jr. WR   Full Participation in Practice  
    Marlon Humphrey CB Hamstring Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
    Keaton Mitchell RB Hamstring Full Participation in Practice Questionable
    Morgan Moses T Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Questionable
    Michael Pierce DT   Full Participation in Practice  
    Marcus Williams S   Full Participation in Practice
  • Who are our starting Tackles this week?

  • Who are our starting Tackles this week?

    @orion said:

    Who are our starting Tackles this week?

    ~       You mean besides Frick  and  Frack ?      Unoffically .....

    The following is the unofficial depth chart for the Browns' Week 10 game on Sunday against the Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium. Kickoff is slated for 1 p.m. EST, and the game can be seen on FOX.

    Offense

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st 2nd 3rd
    WR Amari Cooper (Marquise Goodwin)  
    ▪︎->  LT (Jedrick Wills Jr.) James Hudson III  
    ▪︎->  LG Joel Bitonio    
    C Ethan Pocic Nick Harris *Luke Wypler
    ▪︎->  RG Wyatt Teller    
    ▪︎->  RT *Dawand Jones Leroy Watson  
    TE David Njoku    
    TE Harrison Bryant Jordan Akins  
    ▪︎-> QB Deshaun Watson P.J. Walker *Dorian Thompson-Robinson
    RB Jerome Ford Kareem Hunt Pierre Strong Jr.
    WR Elijah Moore David Bell *Cedric Tillman

    Defense

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st 2nd 3rd
    LDE Myles Garrett Ogbo Okoronkwo *Isaiah McGuire
    LDT Dalvin Tomlinson Maurice Hurst II *Siaki Ika
    RDT Jordan Elliott Shelby Harris  
    RDE Za'Darius Smith Alex Wright  
    WILL Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Tony Fields II  
    MIKE Anthony Walker Jr. *Mohamoud Diabate  
    SAM Sione Takitaki Matthew Adams  
    LCB Denzel Ward (*Cameron Mitchell) *Kahlef Hailassie
    RCB Greg Newsome II Martin Emerson Jr. Mike Ford Jr.
    SS Grant Delpit D'Anthony Bell *Ronnie Hickman
    FS Juan Thornhill Rodney McLeod  

    Special Teams

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st
    P Corey Bojorquez
    K Dustin Hopkins
    H Corey Bojoroquez
    KR Pierre Strong Jr.
    PR Elijah Moore
    LS Charley Hughlett

    * - rookie

  • @orion said:

    Who are our starting Tackles this week?

    ~       You mean besides Frick  and  Frack ?      Unoffically .....

    The following is the unofficial depth chart for the Browns' Week 10 game on Sunday against the Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium. Kickoff is slated for 1 p.m. EST, and the game can be seen on FOX.

    Offense

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st 2nd 3rd
    WR Amari Cooper (Marquise Goodwin)  
    ▪︎->  LT (Jedrick Wills Jr.) James Hudson III  
    ▪︎->  LG Joel Bitonio    
    C Ethan Pocic Nick Harris *Luke Wypler
    ▪︎->  RG Wyatt Teller    
    ▪︎->  RT *Dawand Jones Leroy Watson  
    TE David Njoku    
    TE Harrison Bryant Jordan Akins  
    ▪︎-> QB Deshaun Watson P.J. Walker *Dorian Thompson-Robinson
    RB Jerome Ford Kareem Hunt Pierre Strong Jr.
    WR Elijah Moore David Bell *Cedric Tillman

    Defense

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st 2nd 3rd
    LDE Myles Garrett Ogbo Okoronkwo *Isaiah McGuire
    LDT Dalvin Tomlinson Maurice Hurst II *Siaki Ika
    RDT Jordan Elliott Shelby Harris  
    RDE Za'Darius Smith Alex Wright  
    WILL Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Tony Fields II  
    MIKE Anthony Walker Jr. *Mohamoud Diabate  
    SAM Sione Takitaki Matthew Adams  
    LCB Denzel Ward (*Cameron Mitchell) *Kahlef Hailassie
    RCB Greg Newsome II Martin Emerson Jr. Mike Ford Jr.
    SS Grant Delpit D'Anthony Bell *Ronnie Hickman
    FS Juan Thornhill Rodney McLeod  

    Special Teams

    Table inside Article
    Position 1st
    P Corey Bojorquez
    K Dustin Hopkins
    H Corey Bojoroquez
    KR Pierre Strong Jr.
    PR Elijah Moore
    LS Charley Hughlett

    * - rookie

    @mjp28 said:

    ▪︎->  LT  James Hudson III      

    ▪︎->  RT   Leroy Watson

    .....with no other Tackles listed.  And Leroy saw his first NFL action last week towards the end of the game when Dewand got hurt.  I envision sacks and holding penalties.  

    Of all times.  Our chance to pull even in the loss column.  

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Don't worry about my heart, but thank you for doing so. Let me explain something to you. My favorite trait about Ghoulardi was that he literally insulted and pissed off everyone in management above him.

    My nerves, blood pressure, and heart are most relaxed when I am pissing people off and ruining their day.

    God help the poor fucker who let's me see that my insults about his wife, children, team, parents are making him mad.

    You can ask those who know me best, I seriously orgasm at beating a dead horse and even as I approach 69 on 12/22 I would seriously  fist fight any three Steeler players or fans in a bare knuckles 3 ea 2 minute round fights. 12 foot ring, no ref, no rules. 

    It has nothing to do with being tough, it has to do with enjoying the blissful pleasure of hating.

    You get your ass kicked for 10 minutes, your opponent walks away, you stick something in his eye, twist it, and laugh.

    Who wins? The hater always wins.

    Fuck anyone who isn't us. 

    Go Browns.

    Amen!

  • Yes CantanzarO our Ghoulie is ..... ah .... ok.   You would have to be raised in the Ghoulardi generation  here in NE Ohio to figure him out.

    Well sort of.

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  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Don't worry about my heart, but thank you for doing so. Let me explain something to you. My favorite trait about Ghoulardi was that he literally insulted and pissed off everyone in management above him.

    My nerves, blood pressure, and heart are most relaxed when I am pissing people off and ruining their day.

    God help the poor fucker who let's me see that my insults about his wife, children, team, parents are making him mad.

    You can ask those who know me best, I seriously orgasm at beating a dead horse and even as I approach 69 on 12/22 I would seriously  fist fight any three Steeler players or fans in a bare knuckles 3 ea 2 minute round fights. 12 foot ring, no ref, no rules. 

    It has nothing to do with being tough, it has to do with enjoying the blissful pleasure of hating.

    You get your ass kicked for 10 minutes, your opponent walks away, you stick something in his eye, twist it, and laugh.

    Who wins? The hater always wins.

    Fuck anyone who isn't us. 

    Go Browns.

    I get you.. Go Browns..

  • @mjp28 said:

    ▪︎->  LT  James Hudson III      

    ▪︎->  RT   Leroy Watson

    .....with no other Tackles listed.  And Leroy saw his first NFL action last week towards the end of the game when Dewand got hurt.  I envision sacks and holding penalties.  

    Of all times.  Our chance to pull even in the loss column.  

    @orion said:

    .....with no other Tackles listed.  And Leroy saw his first NFL action last week towards the end of the game when Dewand got hurt.  I envision sacks and holding penalties.  

    Of all times.  Our chance to pull even in the loss column.  

    How they didn't elevate Alex Leatherwood from the practice squad is beyond me. Could have signed a FA too, since it is unknown when Wills will return, and he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he got injured. 

    At this point, they could have gone round gyms in the greater Cleveland area and told the first 6 foot 300 pounder they found: You are playing tackle for the Cleveland Browns!

  • Big game today. Let's fuckin go Brownies. 

  • @orion said:

    .....with no other Tackles listed.  And Leroy saw his first NFL action last week towards the end of the game when Dewand got hurt.  I envision sacks and holding penalties.  

    Of all times.  Our chance to pull even in the loss column.  

    How they didn't elevate Alex Leatherwood from the practice squad is beyond me. Could have signed a FA too, since it is unknown when Wills will return, and he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he got injured. 

    At this point, they could have gone round gyms in the greater Cleveland area and told the first 6 foot 300 pounder they found: You are playing tackle for the Cleveland Browns!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    How they didn't elevate Alex Leatherwood from the practice squad is beyond me. Could have signed a FA too, since it is unknown when Wills will return, and he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he got injured. 

     Guessing the coaches elected to pass on Leatherwood playing at either tackle? Maybe that choice was made, when 2 other Tackles were added to the roster ahead of Alex? 

    imho? How much of the playbook could 2 new Tackles know in 2 weeks?  sure, they may get some situational snaps

    Still expect Nick Harris to contribute at FB/ 6th protection lineman/ or at Guard/Wypler. 

    Best option imo..

    Cleveland could move

    left guard Joel Bitonio to left tackle.

    put rookie Luke Wypler at left guard. (or Nick Harris) 

    and have Hudson at right tackle.

    Bitonio has made it clear in the past that he didn’t want a permanent move to left tackle, but has played a couple of games as a left tackle when the team was in a bind – something he could do again.

    Luke Wypler played decent at left guard in the preseason and when Hudson III played well in meaningful games it was at right tackle.(agreed)

    Bitonio played two games at left tackle in 2021 and received overall grades of 91.5 and 82.6 from PFF, so this could be the best option for the Browns.

    Could? but this Flock of birds defense has been good at attacking from anywhere across the LOS

    Good to have Bill Callahan holding the OL chest pieces 

    Biggest worry? A Good Browns Defense needs to learn to travel starting at 1PM ToDaY !

    GO BROWNS !

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    How they didn't elevate Alex Leatherwood from the practice squad is beyond me. Could have signed a FA too, since it is unknown when Wills will return, and he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before he got injured. 

     Guessing the coaches elected to pass on Leatherwood playing at either tackle? Maybe that choice was made, when 2 other Tackles were added to the roster ahead of Alex? 

    imho? How much of the playbook could 2 new Tackles know in 2 weeks?  sure, they may get some situational snaps

    Still expect Nick Harris to contribute at FB/ 6th protection lineman/ or at Guard/Wypler. 

    Best option imo..

    Cleveland could move

    left guard Joel Bitonio to left tackle.

    put rookie Luke Wypler at left guard. (or Nick Harris) 

    and have Hudson at right tackle.

    Bitonio has made it clear in the past that he didn’t want a permanent move to left tackle, but has played a couple of games as a left tackle when the team was in a bind – something he could do again.

    Luke Wypler played decent at left guard in the preseason and when Hudson III played well in meaningful games it was at right tackle.(agreed)

    Bitonio played two games at left tackle in 2021 and received overall grades of 91.5 and 82.6 from PFF, so this could be the best option for the Browns.

    Could? but this Flock of birds defense has been good at attacking from anywhere across the LOS

    Good to have Bill Callahan holding the OL chest pieces 

    Biggest worry? A Good Browns Defense needs to learn to travel starting at 1PM ToDaY !

    GO BROWNS !

    @gumby73 said:

     Guessing the coaches elected to pass on Leatherwood playing at either tackle? Maybe that choice was made, when 2 other Tackles were added to the roster ahead of Alex? 

    imho? How much of the playbook could 2 new Tackles know in 2 weeks?  sure, they may get some situational snaps

    Still expect Nick Harris to contribute at FB/ 6th protection lineman/ or at Guard/Wypler. 

    Best option imo..

    Cleveland could move

    left guard Joel Bitonio to left tackle.

    put rookie Luke Wypler at left guard. (or Nick Harris) 

    and have Hudson at right tackle.

    Bitonio has made it clear in the past that he didn’t want a permanent move to left tackle, but has played a couple of games as a left tackle when the team was in a bind – something he could do again.

    Luke Wypler played decent at left guard in the preseason and when Hudson III played well in meaningful games it was at right tackle.(agreed)

    Bitonio played two games at left tackle in 2021 and received overall grades of 91.5 and 82.6 from PFF, so this could be the best option for the Browns.

    Could? but this Flock of birds defense has been good at attacking from anywhere across the LOS

    Good to have Bill Callahan holding the OL chest pieces 

    Biggest worry? A Good Browns Defense needs to learn to travel starting at 1PM ToDaY !

    GO BROWNS !

    Good thoughts Gumbs.  1 reason I don't think we will see Bitonio at LT with just 1 week's notice - is he's physically conditioned his body for more interior girth/power as opposed to lighter/leaner for better lateral movement required at LT.  That said, this is how easily I can be wrong - Wills didn't condition his body well for LT either so you could be right Gumbs.

    As for Nick Harris, the Browns could continue to use him as a FB to chip the edges OR line him up at as 2nd TE (outside of either new tackle today) that would really upgrade the uselessness blocking ability of Harrison Bryant.  Harris would have started at Center for us last year if he didn't have the season ending injury in our 1st preseason game in Jax.  Harris is a lot like Shaun O'Hara was in the sense of he's a FAR better Center than he is as a Guard.  As weird as that is, we're seeing other ways Nick Harris is a big help to this team when he doesn't play Center.  The young Wypler Snapper from Ohio State could do a nice job if they did shift Bitonio outside; or they may think the veteran experience of Harris understands the assignments better.  If so, Wypler can take on the FB wrinkle Harris was executing very well.  Here we go with another episode of your buddy Flugel hoping he's wrong again.  I might have to start posting from the Women's Tees.

    Things look like they could be doable - BUT you hate to be missing 2 tackles for new names we either have to learn or forget later today...

  • Good post @gumby73 thanks! But having to put our Pro bowl guard at tackle shows how decimated we are at that position. And for arguably the toughest game of the season. 

    Go Browns!

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    I will start by saying that I hate the fucking Ravens. I actually hate when we play these cocksuckers. Not because they beat us often, but the entire fucking move, Modell, Dickhead Harbaugh, and what I believe is an overrated, dickhead QB (maybe it is my hate, I don't know, or care).

    Fuck the Ravens. After what happened last time I would blitz this Lamarr cocksucker all day long.

    Beat his fucking ass into a pulp of bird shit. Hit him late, rough him up. Make the cocksucker pass.

    I don't think he can beat anyone if he has to use his brain and his arm.

    I also hate that stupid fucking bird on their helmet. I hope we throw bottles at the Ravens bench.

    I hope our D hurts Lamarr. Seriously, this is not hyperbole. I seriously hate every motherfucker that isn't us.

    Watson needs to put up some points, we need to win the battle of the clock, and beat the living fuck out of Jackson.

    Browns win this 51-3.

    Where is Modell buried? Let't go shit on his grave.

    You hate the Ravens but you love your serial rapist QB.  Let me guess.  You're also pro-Hamas.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Let's get a magical game. That one win a year nobody sees coming.

    We've already had one of those.  The 49'er game.

    @orion said:

    We've already had one of those.  The 49'er game.

    Was really hoping you weren't going to mention that. Lol. 

  • Good post @gumby73 thanks! But having to put our Pro bowl guard at tackle shows how decimated we are at that position. And for arguably the toughest game of the season. 

    Go Browns!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Good post @gumby73 thanks! But having to put our Pro bowl guard at tackle shows how decimated we are at that position. And for arguably the toughest game of the season. 

    Go Browns!

    This is a really tough task, which goes without saying. To win, we'd need huge plays from defense, special teams, and of course offense. A defensive TD, punt block return, punt return (very possible now)...SOMETHING. We need some magic, but hey...any given Sunday right? 

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    Good post @gumby73 thanks! But having to put our Pro bowl guard at tackle shows how decimated we are at that position. And for arguably the toughest game of the season. 

    Go Browns!

    This is a really tough task, which goes without saying. To win, we'd need huge plays from defense, special teams, and of course offense. A defensive TD, punt block return, punt return (very possible now)...SOMETHING. We need some magic, but hey...any given Sunday right? 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This is a really tough task, which goes without saying. To win, we'd need huge plays from defense, special teams, and of course offense. A defensive TD, punt block return, punt return (very possible now)...SOMETHING. We need some magic, but hey...any given Sunday right? 

    We need to keep their D on the field, and keep ours of. So when ours comes on, they are their explosive selves, and force 3 and outs or TOs. Like someone else said, this wil;l be a war of attrition. Deshaun & Co need to string drives together. 

  • @orion said:

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    Ravens 7-2   We're  5-3  .......  This is a Must Win game in the playoff race for the division title.   It's one of My must win games because we lost our home game with them.  ( gotta win one game over each division rival )

    The Ravens average 4 sacks per game.  Wills is on IR.  Did I read that Dawand Jones left the game at some point and did not return?   It's a bad time to have OT issues.  They're a top 10 defense.  

    Ideally we'd like to keep our Tackles from pass blocking as much as possible...but we definitely are not the same running team without Nick Chubb.  The Ravens will likely try to make us beat them by passing.  Which will force Cooper, Moore & Njoku to have big days...because once you get past them there hasn't been much production out of Bell & Tillman.  FWIW, we DID just sign a PS receiver to our active roster that had 26 catches over 3 seasons with the Ravens (only 8 last year).  So while he's learning our playbook he'll be teaching our D the Ravens playbook.  

    Go Browns!

    Wow,   just look at those  1st / 5th   matchups.  This might be a crazy game by  BOTH  defences.   Look for fumbles and PICK-6  scores to play a big part.

    Should be a fantastic  TV  sports-nut game.   ( And a classic Myles Garrett sack-fest ? )

     Show up early on our. OFFICIAL GAME THREAD  ..... and enjoy the game.   😁

    ...... GO BROWNS !

    @mjp28 said:

    Wow,   just look at those  1st / 5th   matchups.  This might be a crazy game by  BOTH  defences.   Look for fumbles and PICK-6  scores to play a big part.

    Should be a fantastic  TV  sports-nut game.   ( And a classic Myles Garrett sack-fest ? )

     Show up early on our. OFFICIAL GAME THREAD  ..... and enjoy the game.   😁

    ...... GO BROWNS !

    Big day for defences ?   PICK-6 ?   It's only the Q1..... lol.