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  • @hoorta said:

    But would the Titans release him is the question?  Definitely a better option than Ryan or Foles.  

    Exactly. Even if he was released, he still has to clear waivers, and somebody in the playoff race would pick him up so we couldn't get him. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Exactly. Even if he was released, he still has to clear waivers, and somebody in the playoff race would pick him up so we couldn't get him. 

    Not so Jiggins... I had to double check.  waivers only apply to players with less than 4 years in the league. 

    Tannehill has 11 years in the league which makes him a vested veteran... The rules are different.  🙂   

    Players with at least four accrued NFL seasons of service time are released. They're vested veterans. When a player gets released, it's the end of his contract. He becomes free to sign with any other team.

    Yeah, those dreaming of getting Tom Brady... He's not currently under contract, just like Foles and Flacco.  

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Exactly. Even if he was released, he still has to clear waivers, and somebody in the playoff race would pick him up so we couldn't get him. 

    Not so Jiggins... I had to double check.  waivers only apply to players with less than 4 years in the league. 

    Tannehill has 11 years in the league which makes him a vested veteran... The rules are different.  🙂   

    Players with at least four accrued NFL seasons of service time are released. They're vested veterans. When a player gets released, it's the end of his contract. He becomes free to sign with any other team.

    Yeah, those dreaming of getting Tom Brady... He's not currently under contract, just like Foles and Flacco.  

    @hoorta said:

    Not so Jiggins... I had to double check.  waivers only apply to players with less than 4 years in the league. 

    Tannehill has 11 years in the league which makes him a vested veteran... The rules are different.  🙂   

    Players with at least four accrued NFL seasons of service time are released. They're vested veterans. When a player gets released, it's the end of his contract. He becomes free to sign with any other team

    After the trade deadline, they all go to waivers regardless iirc

  • @hoorta said:

    Not so Jiggins... I had to double check.  waivers only apply to players with less than 4 years in the league. 

    Tannehill has 11 years in the league which makes him a vested veteran... The rules are different.  🙂   

    Players with at least four accrued NFL seasons of service time are released. They're vested veterans. When a player gets released, it's the end of his contract. He becomes free to sign with any other team

    After the trade deadline, they all go to waivers regardless iirc

    @bbedward said:

    After the trade deadline, they all go to waivers regardless iirc

    Hate to tell you, nope... Do your research if you don't believe me.  🙂  

  • @bbedward said:

    After the trade deadline, they all go to waivers regardless iirc

    Hate to tell you, nope... Do your research if you don't believe me.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    Hate to tell you, nope... Do your research if you don't believe me.  🙂  

    Well, according to NFL 

    Once the waiver period starts each year through the trading deadline, a vested veteran — a player who has acquired four years of pension credit — is not subject to the waiver system if the club decides to release him. That means if a team decides to release a vested veteran, the league considers his contract to be terminated immediately and he is free to negotiate and sign with any other club. From the trading deadline through the end of the regular season, vested veterans are subject to the waiver process.

    --

    Though, the murmurs about Ryan Tannehill demanding release seem to just be rumors still. So may be moot, I don't know that any team would be willing to pick his contract up off waivers just to spite the browns. In the AFC I'd think maybe colts or jets.  

  • @hoorta said:

    Hate to tell you, nope... Do your research if you don't believe me.  🙂  

    Well, according to NFL 

    Once the waiver period starts each year through the trading deadline, a vested veteran — a player who has acquired four years of pension credit — is not subject to the waiver system if the club decides to release him. That means if a team decides to release a vested veteran, the league considers his contract to be terminated immediately and he is free to negotiate and sign with any other club. From the trading deadline through the end of the regular season, vested veterans are subject to the waiver process.

    --

    Though, the murmurs about Ryan Tannehill demanding release seem to just be rumors still. So may be moot, I don't know that any team would be willing to pick his contract up off waivers just to spite the browns. In the AFC I'd think maybe colts or jets.  

    @bbedward said:

    Well, according to NFL 

    Once the waiver period starts each year through the trading deadline, a vested veteran — a player who has acquired four years of pension credit — is not subject to the waiver system if the club decides to release him. That means if a team decides to release a vested veteran, the league considers his contract to be terminated immediately and he is free to negotiate and sign with any other club. From the trading deadline through the end of the regular season, vested veterans are subject to the waiver process.

    Well, I suppose so bb....  But in reality, Tannehill isn't going to get released.   That little detail pre and post trading deadline.  My bad.  🙂  

  • @bbedward said:

    Well, according to NFL 

    Once the waiver period starts each year through the trading deadline, a vested veteran — a player who has acquired four years of pension credit — is not subject to the waiver system if the club decides to release him. That means if a team decides to release a vested veteran, the league considers his contract to be terminated immediately and he is free to negotiate and sign with any other club. From the trading deadline through the end of the regular season, vested veterans are subject to the waiver process.

    Well, I suppose so bb....  But in reality, Tannehill isn't going to get released.   That little detail pre and post trading deadline.  My bad.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    Well, I suppose so bb....  But in reality, Tannehill isn't going to get released.   That little detail pre and post trading deadline.  My bad.  🙂  

    Yea the rumor of him demanding a release started from a fake twitter account, so probably not happening. If it does, the Jets would get him off waivers over us most likely. Especially if they manage to beat the bills.

  •  Fracture supposedly happened first half. Which means Watson went into the lock room halftime, likely got shot up, and then also dealt with the ankle middle of the 3rd qtr as well. 

     I can't question his toughness at this point.  Dude was all smiles after the game, running on adrenaline.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    I can't question his

    ...level of stupidity.  He continued to run and take on tacklers.  It wasn't until later that I saw him slide for the first time in memory.  And he slid a yard short of the 1st down.  Can we get a retired baseball coach in here to teach our QB's how to slide?  And Stef always says something like, That's how DeShaun plays the game.  Fuck That!  You're the coach!  Tell him you'll fine his ass if he doesn't slide.  You CANNOT have your QB getting hurt and out for the season for doing avoidable stuff.  Now you're screwed Stef!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I can't question his

    ...level of stupidity.  He continued to run and take on tacklers.  It wasn't until later that I saw him slide for the first time in memory.  And he slid a yard short of the 1st down.  Can we get a retired baseball coach in here to teach our QB's how to slide?  And Stef always says something like, That's how DeShaun plays the game.  Fuck That!  You're the coach!  Tell him you'll fine his ass if he doesn't slide.  You CANNOT have your QB getting hurt and out for the season for doing avoidable stuff.  Now you're screwed Stef!

    @orion said:

    ...level of stupidity.  He continued to run and take on tacklers.  It wasn't until later that I saw him slide for the first time in memory.  And he slid a yard short of the 1st down.  Can we get a retired baseball coach in here to teach our QB's how to slide?  And Stef always says something like, That's how DeShaun plays the game.  Fuck That!  You're the coach!  Tell him you'll fine his ass if he doesn't slide.  You CANNOT have your QB getting hurt and out for the season for doing avoidable stuff.  Now you're screwed Stef!

    Watson started 47 of 48 games for Houston between 2018-2020.

    Would you be happier if we had some statue who never runs and sits in the pocket?

    You know, like Bernie Kosar, who never had to worry about sliding because homeboy couldn't run a 40 under five days? The same guy whose career was effectively over by the time he was 30? 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I can't question his

    ...level of stupidity.  He continued to run and take on tacklers.  It wasn't until later that I saw him slide for the first time in memory.  And he slid a yard short of the 1st down.  Can we get a retired baseball coach in here to teach our QB's how to slide?  And Stef always says something like, That's how DeShaun plays the game.  Fuck That!  You're the coach!  Tell him you'll fine his ass if he doesn't slide.  You CANNOT have your QB getting hurt and out for the season for doing avoidable stuff.  Now you're screwed Stef!

    @orion said:

    ...level of stupidity.  He continued to run and take on tacklers.  It wasn't until later that I saw him slide for the first time in memory.  And he slid a yard short of the 1st down.  Can we get a retired baseball coach in here to teach our QB's how to slide?  And Stef always says something like, That's how DeShaun plays the game.  Fuck That!  You're the coach!  Tell him you'll fine his ass if he doesn't slide.  You CANNOT have your QB getting hurt and out for the season for doing avoidable stuff.  Now you're screwed Stef!

      Meh.  I'm calling it a difficult learning lesson, but a QB who is also feeling the pressure to deliver as well.   You're trying to will your team to a win that might catapult you in a place to earn a playoff spot.   It's just not thinking beyond the moment and going to hard for that play.  

  • I keep seeing Tom Brady's name being circulated in connection with the Browns and I just want to know who actually thinks he would consider coming here? Or that it would be a good idea? He said before that he was retired for good and is probably no where near football shape. Why would he come out of retirement to take a beating behind our patchwork line?

  • N Neo

    I keep seeing Tom Brady's name being circulated in connection with the Browns and I just want to know who actually thinks he would consider coming here? Or that it would be a good idea? He said before that he was retired for good and is probably no where near football shape. Why would he come out of retirement to take a beating behind our patchwork line?

    @neo said:

    I keep seeing Tom Brady's name being circulated in connection with the Browns and I just want to know who actually thinks he would consider coming here? Or that it would be a good idea? He said before that he was retired for good and is probably no where near football shape. Why would he come out of retirement to take a beating behind our patchwork line?

    Not only that, but how much cap space is left to sign a veteran QB or someone of Brady's caliber?

  • @bbedward said:

    RG3 asking the browns to sign him

    Appreciate the brainstorming but 1 season of RG3 and out was enough. 

  • @neo said:

    I keep seeing Tom Brady's name being circulated in connection with the Browns and I just want to know who actually thinks he would consider coming here? Or that it would be a good idea? He said before that he was retired for good and is probably no where near football shape. Why would he come out of retirement to take a beating behind our patchwork line?

    Not only that, but how much cap space is left to sign a veteran QB or someone of Brady's caliber?

    @flugel said:

    Not only that, but how much cap space is left to sign a veteran QB or someone of Brady's caliber?

    Browns have a lot more than people think, like $30M. Because they restructured a bunch of contracts.

    But I’m pretty sure Brady’s living in a mansion on a Florida island and money is not the obstacle with bringing him out of retirement. The whole brady idea was a meme that people took seriously

  • RG3 must be smoking some really good weed in retirement.

    "Run it back" - RG3 was 1-4 with the Browns, so what exactly are we running back, more shitty quarterback play by him?

  • RG3 must be smoking some really good weed in retirement.

    "Run it back" - RG3 was 1-4 with the Browns, so what exactly are we running back, more shitty quarterback play by him?

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    RG3 must be smoking some really good weed in retirement.

    "Run it back" - RG3 was 1-4 with the Browns, so what exactly are we running back, more shitty quarterback play by him?

     I believe I had a breakdown of a HUGE miss by him against the Eagles.  Mills concept?  Safety bit on the cheese and the post was WIDE TF open...   he didn't take it and threw short.     In the passing game he's chocolate Brady Quinn at best.

    RG3 seems like a nice dude, but his eyes suck.  

  • @yorkie-going-tot-dogs said:

    Just pissed myself reading that, no wonder I've never heard of this Simpson Day fellow.

    It’s a line from the movie Animal House.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    It’s a line from the movie Animal House.

    Not seen it for donkeys years, right funny film though!

  • I’m not even joking, and I rarely go out on a limb like that. But I would absolutely be at least humoring Tom Brady right now. It absolutely is worth a phone call. 

  • I’m not even joking, and I rarely go out on a limb like that. But I would absolutely be at least humoring Tom Brady right now. It absolutely is worth a phone call. 

    @jrb12711 said:

    I’m not even joking, and I rarely go out on a limb like that. But I would absolutely be at least humoring Tom Brady right now. It absolutely is worth a phone call. 

    The cashier I saw at Walgreens today said his uncle’s co-worker’s wife is a realtor who said Tom Brady is shopping for a house in strongsville

  • @jrb12711 said:

    I’m not even joking, and I rarely go out on a limb like that. But I would absolutely be at least humoring Tom Brady right now. It absolutely is worth a phone call. 

    The cashier I saw at Walgreens today said his uncle’s co-worker’s wife is a realtor who said Tom Brady is shopping for a house in strongsville

    @bbedward said:

    The cashier I saw at Walgreens today said his uncle’s co-worker’s wife is a realtor who said Tom Brady is shopping for a house in strongsville

    On top of that, my wife’s boyfriend just saw Brady’s plane landed in Cleveland- coincidence?

    But like for real, I’m never one of those zany fans. But it’s absolutely worth a phone call. If there’s one crazy bastard who might just do it, it’s him. Is it extremely, extremely unlikely? Of course.