Take Tim Couch out and put in Derek Anderson
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Fact: The staff, with NO allegance to either QB, awarding the starting job to Quinn.
Fact: This is the third time DA has gone into an NFL camp and either been unable to win a spot on the roster (Ravens), win the starting job over Frye, or keep his starting job over Quinn.
Fact: DA isn't the savior.
Here's the deal: if Quinn doesn't prove he has a ceiling worthy of leading an NFL team to the playoffs, we're in the market for a QB.
How the "put in DA crew" can't see this is beyond me.
As for today: Quinn sucked. Sure didn't build any confidence from my vantange point. What's hard to tell is how much of it is him and how much of it is the cast/coaching around him. One thing's for sure, he didn't do anything today to make anyone think its just his environment. Wow, talk about bad.
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I am not saying anything about DA other than he is better than Quinn.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
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I am not saying anything about DA other than he is better than Quinn.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
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I am not saying anything about DA other than he is better than Quinn.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
I already explained that.....we needed to look at Quinn. It was a close competition, so that was the logical choice to make.
Don't worry, Quinn should get at least 2-3 more starts, and I am fine with that as i agree we need to find out about him......so far, no good.
Add that to your fact list.
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Im all for putting DA out there again at least we will lose trying to win but we will double the opponents score due to anderceptions...but hey at the end of the day we are going to have to draft a QB next year if BQ cant handle it..
This expansion team is infamous for killing QB careers while retaining the worst WRs in the league...
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Hmmmm. Was it worse than Anderson?
LOL....difference between Anderson and the 3 I mentioned (Brees, Manning, Aikman) is that the 3 showed the ability to get better as time went on.
LOL....difference between Anderson and the 3 I mentioned (Brees, Manning, Aikman) is that the 3 showed the ability to get better as time went on.
Here's the commonality you should focus on . . . . Chris Redman (the original first round talent in the third round), Kyle Boller (the original "I can't believe he fell in our lap"), Josh Harris (remember the first guy we signed off the Raven's practice squad), Trent Dilfer, Derek Anderson, Charlie Frey (see Redman), Brady Quinn (see Boller). One thing Opie did not know was QBs. In fact, time has proven there wasn't much that Opie knew. He actually spent a lot of time and effort to make a Garcia-McCown QBing tandem he inherited worse.
The Anderson mistake is paid for and at least he put together a decent string of games before D coordinators found his cryptonite. I'd think that you'd see a similarity with Kerry Collins. Quinn's like a five-day weekend for D-Coordinators right out of the gate.
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With the talent(or lack thereof)that opie left us you have to wonder if he was any good at scouting talent at all...
With the talent(or lack thereof)that opie left us you have to wonder if he was any good at scouting talent at all...
Quinn was 3rd round talent by some evaluations.
I don't remember exactly where we drafted that year but there was a good chance BQ would have been there is round 2 and we wouldn't have had to trade anything if we were inclined to reach for a player.
Just because WE drafted BQ in round 1 doesn't mean he was 1st round talent.
The guy was a 3rd rounder....those guys bust all the time. You take a shot. If after a few games they don't pan out, you move on and think maybe he will become one of those journeyman guys who become semi decent by their 10th year.
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With the talent(or lack thereof)that opie left us you have to wonder if he was any good at scouting talent at all...
Quinn was 3rd round talent by some evaluations.
I don't remember exactly where we drafted that year but there was a good chance BQ would have been there is round 2 and we wouldn't have had to trade anything if we were inclined to reach for a player.
Just because WE drafted BQ in round 1 doesn't mean he was 1st round talent.
The guy was a 3rd rounder....those guys bust all the time. You take a shot. If after a few games they don't pan out, you move on and think maybe he will become one of those journeyman guys who become semi decent by their 10th year.
Quinn was 3rd round talent by some evaluations.
I don't remember exactly where we drafted that year but there was a good chance BQ would have been there is round 2 and we wouldn't have had to trade anything if we were inclined to reach for a player.
Just because WE drafted BQ in round 1 doesn't mean he was 1st round talent.
The guy was a 3rd rounder....those guys bust all the time. You take a shot. If after a few games they don't pan out, you move on and think maybe he will become one of those journeyman guys who become semi decent by their 10th year.
Highly doubtful he would have been there in the 2nd. Rumors on draft day had KC interested in him at 23 and Balt trying to trade up to get him.
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But seriously, if a '3rd round guy' is EXPECTED to bust, why is a 6th round guy a better option?
He's played better??
One can't forget DA has played some pretty darn good games.
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I am not saying anything about DA other than he is better than Quinn.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
Peen, why isn't he starting? You're saying you know better than the staff? Curious for your read on how they got it wrong.
Can u look at the offensive playcalling and say that they got it right ? if they can get that wrong why not this ? I mean our passing game stalled, our running game stalled what else is there ?
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But seriously, if a '3rd round guy' is EXPECTED to bust, why is a 6th round guy a better option?
He's played better??
One can't forget DA has played some pretty darn good games.
He's played better??
One can't forget DA has played some pretty darn good games.
and one can't forget that DA has had some shit games a lot worse than Quinn has dished up so far.
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and one can't forget that DA has had some shit games a lot worse than Quinn has dished up so far.
A loss is a loss it really doesn't matter who was "shittier".
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and one can't forget that DA has had some shit games a lot worse than Quinn has dished up so far.
A loss is a loss it really doesn't matter who was "shittier".
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@hiwaygal said:
Serious question...DA was a 6th round pick wasn't he? How well do those guys fare?Look, I agree that BQ is not doing it...whatever it needs to be. I'm not sure if it's him, the OC, the OL, or God only knows what else but that there is something wrong is obvious.
But seriously, if a '3rd round guy' is EXPECTED to bust, why is a 6th round guy a better option?
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, the round at where they were picked doesn't mean much.
the fact is that Quinn isn't very good so far, and I would much rather have Anderson on the field, but I also think Quinn should have a fair chance before he gets pulled off, if he's not good by the bye week, then put in anderson, trade or cut quinn, and we're on the QB search once again.
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There's a lot of Lumberghian-level stupidity going on in here tonight.
It's obvious that what this team needs right now is a big-armed, scatter-shot QB to right the ship. Because he's been so good at bringing order and stability to the team in the past.
Guys, this is Quinn's 2nd start of the year. There are plenty of offensive issues, especially at RT and RB, not to mention WR and TE.
But let's keep a little perspective: it was 10-6 in the 3rd quarter, 13-6 into the 4th quarter. Think about that for a sec, those of you blowing your brains all over the board.
10-6 in the 3rd, 13-6 in the 4th.
Despite Dumervil making St. Clair look like a practice player, despite 2 AWFUL turnovers, despite the inability to run the ball AT ALL:
10-6 in the 3rd, 13-6 in the 4th.
People: WE WERE STILL IN THIS GAME IN THE SECOND HALF.
Quinn didn't make the killer mistake. He didn't sink his team. He didn't throw the dumb pick out of frustration, he didn't throw the back-breaking pick 6, he didn't pick a fight with his WRs and kick a pylon.
Quinn didn't have a ton of positives but he did have a few really good completions and he had ZERO killer mistakes.
For those of you who actually REMEMBER last year and the end of 2007, that is a HUGE upgrade at the QB position.
Again, QB is NOT our biggest issue anymore no matter how people want to spin it.
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and one can't forget that DA has had some shit games a lot worse than Quinn has dished up so far.
Uh, I think BQ game ranks up there with some of the worst QB'ing I have seen in a long time.
There was multiple times when he had time, held on to that ball, and took a sack. Now, as it has been said, either he has no confidence in his arm to get it down field, or the receivers are crap and not getting open, or Daboll is an idiot.. or it could be all 3 of those manifesting themselves in any sequence or order.
But I will say that BQ looked horrid. Had some decent throws, but did not show any guts in taking the ball and tossing it down field.
I really think the boy is afraid to fail. I really do. He so afraid IMO, that he's standing there, afraid to making a decision and throw with confidence and just dumping the ball off to his outlet receiver the 3 yards.
I saw BQ do 2 things in the first quarter that people said BQ wouldn't do or doesn't do vs. DA
1. Leave a WR to hang and dry in the open... Cribbs got hammered today..
2. Short pass Accuracy... That short pass to Furrey (I think it was furrey) on the first drive, near the goal line, was poorly thrown, no touch and a bad decision. If it had been on the mark, it probably would have been intercepted and ran for 100 yard TD. BQ displayed 3 things in this one play that so many people have bashed DA for doing. Come on guys let's get the plank out of all of our eyes.
I want the best QB on the team to start, and IMO, I'm not seeing anything from BQ that shows he has what it takes. Yes, he has only a few starts, but how many did Steve Young need? Or even Tom Brady. BQ, has had 3 years to progress with game knowledge, reading the defence, mechanics, accuracy and building confidence. But he looks like a rookie thrown in with the Lions.. I don't see anything that tells me he has done anything in the last 3 years to make him any better of a player, other than working out and keeping in shape. Good for you BQ, you got the ladys on your side, now how about win a few games.
But it's not all on BQ. So far I'm not impressed with anyone.. Coaching, players, etc., It's all garbage.. We have some talent on this team, buy my god, I am so sick of poor play calling and poor execution on eveyone.
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