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  • Are people still ranting about baker ?

    He had a shit game against the panthers who are probably the worst team this year, outplayed by Flacco.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I know. 

    Baker should be notified that some hilljack from Columbiana County probably dances around his basement with his junk tucked between his legs while saying "It puts the lotion on its skin" to a poster of ol' #6. 

    Dude you are an embarassment to the male gender roflmao.  Keep trying to be funny....lol

    @kvoethe said:

    Dude you are an embarassment to the male gender roflmao.  Keep trying to be funny....lol

    Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Adorable projection, Peaches. 

    Unless, of course, you want to prove me wrong.

    But we all know you won't. ?

  • Good game.  Flacco showed out like a true vet, just had an ill-timed int.

    Defense struggled giving up big plays all game.   Shocked how well the offense showed out on the road. Testament to the coaches and the vets.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Good game.  Flacco showed out like a true vet, just had an ill-timed int.

    Defense struggled giving up big plays all game.   Shocked how well the offense showed out on the road. Testament to the coaches and the vets.

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    Myles was damn invisible that game, and you can't lose your #1 WR and #1 cb and expect to win on the road. It should have been tie game 20-20, and then the wheels came off.  

    Too bad we blew the opportunity after the Steelers suckkoed.  🙁  

    Well, the browns are still in the playoffs, but the Texans are now tied with us at 7-5.  🙁  

    PS- and I don't get how they have the Colts slotted ahead of us in the standings, with everything being identical, and the Browns having the head to head tiebreaker.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Good game.  Flacco showed out like a true vet, just had an ill-timed int.

    Defense struggled giving up big plays all game.   Shocked how well the offense showed out on the road. Testament to the coaches and the vets.

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    Myles was damn invisible that game, and you can't lose your #1 WR and #1 cb and expect to win on the road. It should have been tie game 20-20, and then the wheels came off.  

    Too bad we blew the opportunity after the Steelers suckkoed.  🙁  

    Well, the browns are still in the playoffs, but the Texans are now tied with us at 7-5.  🙁  

    PS- and I don't get how they have the Colts slotted ahead of us in the standings, with everything being identical, and the Browns having the head to head tiebreaker.  

    @hoorta said:

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    He played very well. Exactly what you pray a backup can do for you. 

    But that poor decision was the beginning of the end of the game for the Browns. That's not a "so?" type of play. 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Goooooooo Joe!!!!  With the kung fu grip!!!

    With both our D and running game not showing up today, Joe's play is literally the only thing that kept us in the game!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    With both our D and running game not showing up today, Joe's play is literally the only thing that kept us in the game!

    Funny. Because the same thing can literally be said about DTR in the Broncos game. Made zero mistakes and had us in the game until he left yet was still criticized.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Good game.  Flacco showed out like a true vet, just had an ill-timed int.

    Defense struggled giving up big plays all game.   Shocked how well the offense showed out on the road. Testament to the coaches and the vets.

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    Myles was damn invisible that game, and you can't lose your #1 WR and #1 cb and expect to win on the road. It should have been tie game 20-20, and then the wheels came off.  

    Too bad we blew the opportunity after the Steelers suckkoed.  🙁  

    Well, the browns are still in the playoffs, but the Texans are now tied with us at 7-5.  🙁  

    PS- and I don't get how they have the Colts slotted ahead of us in the standings, with everything being identical, and the Browns having the head to head tiebreaker.  

    @hoorta said:

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    Myles was damn invisible that game, and you can't lose your #1 WR and #1 cb and expect to win on the road. It should have been tie game 20-20, and then the wheels came off.  

    Too bad we blew the opportunity after the Steelers suckkoed.  🙁  

    Well, the browns are still in the playoffs, but the Texans are now tied with us at 7-5.  🙁  

    PS- and I don't get how they have the Colts slotted ahead of us in the standings, with everything being identical, and the Browns having the head to head tiebreaker.  

    The colts are not ahead of us

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

  • I’d feel better about the season if Flacco plays like he did the rest of the way. Sure he made a bone headed int, but that’s kinda classic Flacco. He did more than enough to win.

    The fingers need to be pointed at the other units that contributed to the loss really.

    still in the playoffs, didn’t gain anything. Beat the jags at home and it’ll be all hype again with how hot and cold fans are.

    Theres no god damn way this team is losing to the jets or bengals. And very likely not to the bears too. Texans and jags very winnable as well

  • Also I hate they traded DPJ for a 6th, Tillman is not getting it done like the browns thought. 

  • I didn't like that we went for it on 4th & 5 towards the end there.  We had 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning.  He could've left it on his 'crushing' defense to get the ball back.  But I think he had lost some faith in the D by that point.  Having said all that, I think we got a bad spot on Ford's run and in hind-sight should've challenged it.  

    I think that Flacco played like a pro.  I like how much he was under center and liked his play-action technique.

    When Cooper went down I knew we were pretty screwed at WR.  I mean, we had Tillman & Bell to go along with Moore, whom Flacco clearly knew something about.  

    ...it's not going to be any easier next week.  We need Ward back.

  • @hoorta said:

    to be Captain Obvious.... Barring injury Joe is the starter the rest of the season. Refreshing to see what competent QB play looks like of for a change. One deep throw picked off, so?  

    Myles was damn invisible that game, and you can't lose your #1 WR and #1 cb and expect to win on the road. It should have been tie game 20-20, and then the wheels came off.  

    Too bad we blew the opportunity after the Steelers suckkoed.  🙁  

    Well, the browns are still in the playoffs, but the Texans are now tied with us at 7-5.  🙁  

    PS- and I don't get how they have the Colts slotted ahead of us in the standings, with everything being identical, and the Browns having the head to head tiebreaker.  

    The colts are not ahead of us

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

    @browns149 said:

    The colts are not ahead of us

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

    then someone better tell NFL.com they need to fix this...   https://www.nfl.com/standings/playoff-picture

    @bbedward said:

    I’d feel better about the season if Flacco plays like he did the rest of the way. Sure he made a bone headed int, but that’s kinda classic Flacco. He did more than enough to win.

    The fingers need to be pointed at the other units that contributed to the loss really.

    still in the playoffs, didn’t gain anything. Beat the jags at home and it’ll be all hype again with how hot and cold fans are.

    Theres no god damn way this team is losing to the jets or bengals. And very likely not to the bears too. Texans and jags very winnable as well

    Yes, every game on the way out is winnable, but several that are losable.  Too early to start the "what if" game... But if you're interested, you may want to take a look at the Colts and Texans schedules.  Steelers should have gimmes against the Patriots and Bengals. But it will remain to be seen how much not having Pickett will affect them. Up to the pride of Mentor Mitch Trubisky to keep thing going.   Since the Patriots couldn't even score against the Chargers, well, the Steel Curtain should be plenty good enough to beat Bill & company Thursday night. .  

  • @browns149 said:

    The colts are not ahead of us

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

    then someone better tell NFL.com they need to fix this...   https://www.nfl.com/standings/playoff-picture

    @bbedward said:

    I’d feel better about the season if Flacco plays like he did the rest of the way. Sure he made a bone headed int, but that’s kinda classic Flacco. He did more than enough to win.

    The fingers need to be pointed at the other units that contributed to the loss really.

    still in the playoffs, didn’t gain anything. Beat the jags at home and it’ll be all hype again with how hot and cold fans are.

    Theres no god damn way this team is losing to the jets or bengals. And very likely not to the bears too. Texans and jags very winnable as well

    Yes, every game on the way out is winnable, but several that are losable.  Too early to start the "what if" game... But if you're interested, you may want to take a look at the Colts and Texans schedules.  Steelers should have gimmes against the Patriots and Bengals. But it will remain to be seen how much not having Pickett will affect them. Up to the pride of Mentor Mitch Trubisky to keep thing going.   Since the Patriots couldn't even score against the Chargers, well, the Steel Curtain should be plenty good enough to beat Bill & company Thursday night. .  

    @hoorta said:

    then someone better tell NFL.com they need to fix this...   https://www.nfl.com/standings/playoff-picture

    Yes, every game on the way out is winnable, but several that are losable.  Too early to start the "what if" game... But if you're interested, you may want to take a look at the Colts and Texans schedules.  Steelers should have gimmes against the Patriots and Bengals. But it will remain to be seen how much not having Pickett will affect them. Up to the pride of Mentor Mitch Trubisky to keep thing going.   Since the Patriots couldn't even score against the Chargers, well, the Steel Curtain should be plenty good enough to beat Bill & company Thursday night. .  

    Well Flacco proved he can satisfy the “just give us average qb play and we win the Super Bowl crowd” let’s see if they are right ? turns out the biggest issue may be the inability to play zone defense not the QB…

    I’m not too worried, the browns always suck historically on west coast trips. I think this team is better than the Jags, overall especially at home.

  • The bottom line is we have been hit by the injury bug as worse as any team in the NFL this year. Cooper went out with a concussion, our best defensive player Garrett is playing with one arm with his banged up shoulder, Denzel Ward has been missing games. Not to mention the Chubb, Watson, Conklin season enders. 

    There's injuries every season and there has to be depth to fill those in, but Chubb, Watson, Garrett, Ward, Cooper - if all those guys aren't playing or miss significant time/done for the year, that's very hard to overcome. That's our five best players. 

    The bright side from Sunday is Flacco looked like a competent NFL quarterback, and he can still throw the deep ball. But my god do we need Cooper and Ward out there - Ward would have covered Puka way better and the Flacco/Cooper connection was working so we put up more points if he doesn't go out. And of course Puka goes out with what looks like a season ending injury, but comes back in the game and balls out - classic Browns luck.

  • @bbedward said:

    The game was over by then.

    Flacco did well but I’m wondering if we really needed to take 40 yard shots every other play. It looked like me playing madden out there today

    Flacco made the horrible decision to throw the ball to a double-teamed Moore.

    He could have easily checked down or thrown the ball away. He did that all day long, well. 

    And as well as he did play, that poor decision was the beginning of the end of the game for the Browns. Horrible play by Flacco in an all-around very good game for him. I'm looking forward to him starting for the rest of the season. 

    We need three wins. Get them however you can. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Flacco made the horrible decision to throw the ball to a double-teamed Moore.

    He could have easily checked down or thrown the ball away. He did that all day long, well. 

    And as well as he did play, that poor decision was the beginning of the end of the game for the Browns. Horrible play by Flacco in an all-around very good game for him. I'm looking forward to him starting for the rest of the season. 

    We need three wins. Get them however you can. 

    That's typical Flacco. When he played against us, I always waited for the untimely interception. Our team was just too bad to take advantage of it back then. I'm ambivalent about him starting the rest of the season.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Flacco made the horrible decision to throw the ball to a double-teamed Moore.

    He could have easily checked down or thrown the ball away. He did that all day long, well. 

    And as well as he did play, that poor decision was the beginning of the end of the game for the Browns. Horrible play by Flacco in an all-around very good game for him. I'm looking forward to him starting for the rest of the season. 

    We need three wins. Get them however you can. 

    That's typical Flacco. When he played against us, I always waited for the untimely interception. Our team was just too bad to take advantage of it back then. I'm ambivalent about him starting the rest of the season.

    @mddawg said:

    That's typical Flacco. When he played against us, I always waited for the untimely interception. Our team was just too bad to take advantage of it back then. I'm ambivalent about him starting the rest of the season.

    He’s like a 75 overall in October, and becomes a 99 by January - on the madden scale before those games sucked.

    Hopefully we get to see the postseason version of Flacco this year 

  • @mddawg said:

    That's typical Flacco. When he played against us, I always waited for the untimely interception. Our team was just too bad to take advantage of it back then. I'm ambivalent about him starting the rest of the season.

    He’s like a 75 overall in October, and becomes a 99 by January - on the madden scale before those games sucked.

    Hopefully we get to see the postseason version of Flacco this year 

    @bbedward said:

    He’s like a 75 overall in October, and becomes a 99 by January - on the madden scale before those games sucked.

    Hopefully we get to see the postseason version of Flacco this year 

    That only happened once in their SB winning season. I just read on Twitter he's back on the practice squad so look's like Kevin is going with DTR.

  • @bbedward said:

    He’s like a 75 overall in October, and becomes a 99 by January - on the madden scale before those games sucked.

    Hopefully we get to see the postseason version of Flacco this year 

    That only happened once in their SB winning season. I just read on Twitter he's back on the practice squad so look's like Kevin is going with DTR.

    @mddawg said:

    That only happened once in their SB winning season. I just read on Twitter he's back on the practice squad so look's like Kevin is going with DTR.

    He’s on the practice squad because they go back by default when they are called up if they aren’t signed to the roster. The twitter thing is a non-story, happened to Walker too between his first couple starts 

  • N Neo

    @korsou-dawg said:

    With both our D and running game not showing up today, Joe's play is literally the only thing that kept us in the game!

    Funny. Because the same thing can literally be said about DTR in the Broncos game. Made zero mistakes and had us in the game until he left yet was still criticized.  

    @neo said:

    Funny. Because the same thing can literally be said about DTR in the Broncos game. Made zero mistakes and had us in the game until he left yet was still criticized.  

    You cannot possibly be serious.

    Joe threw double the yards, double the TDs, more YPA and one untimely Int in an attempt to win the game. Their performances aren't even close.

    Also Joe gets more receivers involved, hitting 9 different targets, compared to DTR's 6. That shows he goes through his progressions, and sees what the play gives him. If DTR doesn't see his first, or possibly second options open, he just passes out to the flats, or out of bounds. Training wheels QB play, compared to a vet who proved he's still got it!

  • @neo said:

    Funny. Because the same thing can literally be said about DTR in the Broncos game. Made zero mistakes and had us in the game until he left yet was still criticized.  

    You cannot possibly be serious.

    Joe threw double the yards, double the TDs, more YPA and one untimely Int in an attempt to win the game. Their performances aren't even close.

    Also Joe gets more receivers involved, hitting 9 different targets, compared to DTR's 6. That shows he goes through his progressions, and sees what the play gives him. If DTR doesn't see his first, or possibly second options open, he just passes out to the flats, or out of bounds. Training wheels QB play, compared to a vet who proved he's still got it!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Joe threw double the yards, double the TDs, more YPA and one untimely Int

    Yeah, a back breaking interception. Which DTR didn't have in the Broncos game. Please tell me YOU'RE not serious. DTR threw one pass in the endzone to Cooper which I think was a little off target. One is a 5th round pick, the other is a Super Bowl MVP. Not sure what Browns games you're watching.......

    EDIT

    DTR is raw but he is talented. If you think DTR is not a servicable QB then I don't know what to tell you guy?‍♂️

  • N Neo

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Joe threw double the yards, double the TDs, more YPA and one untimely Int

    Yeah, a back breaking interception. Which DTR didn't have in the Broncos game. Please tell me YOU'RE not serious. DTR threw one pass in the endzone to Cooper which I think was a little off target. One is a 5th round pick, the other is a Super Bowl MVP. Not sure what Browns games you're watching.......

    EDIT

    DTR is raw but he is talented. If you think DTR is not a servicable QB then I don't know what to tell you guy?‍♂️

    @neo said:

    Yeah, a back breaking interception. Which DTR didn't have in the Broncos game. Please tell me YOU'RE not serious. DTR threw one pass in the endzone to Cooper which I think was a little off target. One is a 5th round pick, the other is a Super Bowl MVP. Not sure what Browns games you're watching.......

    EDIT

    DTR is raw but he is talented. If you think DTR is not a servicable QB then I don't know what to tell you guy?‍♂️

    DTR is what you’d expect from a late round rookie, some raw talent and potential. As-is, he can’t throw downfield - like at all, and struggles to make progressions at NFL speed. He may beat the odds and become a QB1 someday, he may be a serviceable QB2 for many years, or he may bounce around a bit and out of the league.

    Flacco had a back breaking pick, in an otherwise solid game throwing downfield more than any browns QB in the past 5 years.

    Flacco is the guy if the browns want to make a playoff push this year (they do)

    DTR is the guy if the browns wanna fold the season and focus on developing their young guys.

    Flacco looked surprisingly vintage, the age may catch up to him down the stretch but you have to roll with it while it’s working.