It’s Flacco Time
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Hopefully his wealth of experience will expedite the progression reads and throws that we've missed with the backups Nicks. Key word in that sentence is Hopefully.
And he played with Elijah Moore in New York, so maybe that will jump start Moore's season for the final month? Maybe? Possibly? Hopefully?
And he played with Elijah Moore in New York, so maybe that will jump start Moore's season for the final month? Maybe? Possibly? Hopefully?
Jets fans don’t have very fond memories of Flacco though, most I’ve heard from think he can do well with a better o-line though. And maybe a better offensive coach, seeing the dumpster fire that the jets offense continues to be
Combining these,^^ continues to blur my mind of what Flacco can do with wildcard playoff games on the line..
1) Great ! Hopefully yes ! Berry see's Joe Flacco as a major upgrade over PJ Walker..
a) Both us & Jets have good defenses..
b) Browns patched up OL slightly better than Jets..but barely in top 10 in the league
c) Amari Cooper vs Garrett Wilson maybe the closest thing to a wash ? imo
So whats Flacco's 1-8 record at Jets going to cleanup in a better run offense over Jets going to do?
Stay tuned,,, Hey Joe ! spread the ball around & let's see who's middle offensive depth might be better?
Flacco needs to be a big part of a winning a split out west.. because, Who's ready for DTR returning vs Jags next week ?
Let's Go Joe ! Finish drives & Score Touchdowns !
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And he played with Elijah Moore in New York, so maybe that will jump start Moore's season for the final month? Maybe? Possibly? Hopefully?
Jets fans don’t have very fond memories of Flacco though, most I’ve heard from think he can do well with a better o-line though. And maybe a better offensive coach, seeing the dumpster fire that the jets offense continues to be
Combining these,^^ continues to blur my mind of what Flacco can do with wildcard playoff games on the line..
1) Great ! Hopefully yes ! Berry see's Joe Flacco as a major upgrade over PJ Walker..
a) Both us & Jets have good defenses..
b) Browns patched up OL slightly better than Jets..but barely in top 10 in the league
c) Amari Cooper vs Garrett Wilson maybe the closest thing to a wash ? imo
So whats Flacco's 1-8 record at Jets going to cleanup in a better run offense over Jets going to do?
Stay tuned,,, Hey Joe ! spread the ball around & let's see who's middle offensive depth might be better?
Flacco needs to be a big part of a winning a split out west.. because, Who's ready for DTR returning vs Jags next week ?
Let's Go Joe ! Finish drives & Score Touchdowns !
Combining these,^^ continues to blur my mind of what Flacco can do with wildcard playoff games on the line..
1) Great ! Hopefully yes ! Berry see's Joe Flacco as a major upgrade over PJ Walker..
a) Both us & Jets have good defenses..
b) Browns patched up OL slightly better than Jets..but barely in top 10 in the league
c) Amari Cooper vs Garrett Wilson maybe the closest thing to a wash ? imo
So whats Flacco's 1-8 record at Jets going to cleanup in a better run offense over Jets going to do?
Stay tuned,,, Hey Joe ! spread the ball around & let's see who's middle offensive depth might be better?
Flacco needs to be a big part of a winning a split out west.. because, Who's ready for DTR returning vs Jags next week ?
Let's Go Joe ! Finish drives & Score Touchdowns !
I disagree on browns o-line barely top 10, pretty sure when you look around the league they are a top unit. Even with big thanos and the backup LT. It’s an astronomically better unit than the Jets of last year and even this year.
Pretty sure they grade closer to top 5 than top 10 on pff. Naturally the weakest spot has been the tackles though. I think Wills comes off IR soon, maybe next week? They could help a little.
Most QBs are playing behind worse lines than the browns this year, though.
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Combining these,^^ continues to blur my mind of what Flacco can do with wildcard playoff games on the line..
1) Great ! Hopefully yes ! Berry see's Joe Flacco as a major upgrade over PJ Walker..
a) Both us & Jets have good defenses..
b) Browns patched up OL slightly better than Jets..but barely in top 10 in the league
c) Amari Cooper vs Garrett Wilson maybe the closest thing to a wash ? imo
So whats Flacco's 1-8 record at Jets going to cleanup in a better run offense over Jets going to do?
Stay tuned,,, Hey Joe ! spread the ball around & let's see who's middle offensive depth might be better?
Flacco needs to be a big part of a winning a split out west.. because, Who's ready for DTR returning vs Jags next week ?
Let's Go Joe ! Finish drives & Score Touchdowns !
I disagree on browns o-line barely top 10, pretty sure when you look around the league they are a top unit. Even with big thanos and the backup LT. It’s an astronomically better unit than the Jets of last year and even this year.
Pretty sure they grade closer to top 5 than top 10 on pff. Naturally the weakest spot has been the tackles though. I think Wills comes off IR soon, maybe next week? They could help a little.
Most QBs are playing behind worse lines than the browns this year, though.
I think Wills comes off IR soon, maybe next week? They could help a little.
TBH, I think Geron Christian has done a good job. Possibly better than Wills, who 6 penalties in 8 starts this season. And they tend to come at the most awful time, negating 1st downs or even TDs. Christian has only penalty in 3 starts. Wills and Hudson seem like the liabilities.
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I think Wills comes off IR soon, maybe next week? They could help a little.
TBH, I think Geron Christian has done a good job. Possibly better than Wills, who 6 penalties in 8 starts this season. And they tend to come at the most awful time, negating 1st downs or even TDs. Christian has only penalty in 3 starts. Wills and Hudson seem like the liabilities.
TBH, I think Geron Christian has done a good job. Possibly better than Wills, who 6 penalties in 8 starts this season. And they tend to come at the most awful time, negating 1st downs or even TDs. Christian has only penalty in 3 starts. Wills and Hudson seem like the liabilities.
I definitely hope they add another OLineman or two in the upcoming draft.
Conklin is on fumes, Wills is Wills, and Bitonio can't play forever.
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Combining these,^^ continues to blur my mind of what Flacco can do with wildcard playoff games on the line..
1) Great ! Hopefully yes ! Berry see's Joe Flacco as a major upgrade over PJ Walker..
a) Both us & Jets have good defenses..
b) Browns patched up OL slightly better than Jets..but barely in top 10 in the league
c) Amari Cooper vs Garrett Wilson maybe the closest thing to a wash ? imo
So whats Flacco's 1-8 record at Jets going to cleanup in a better run offense over Jets going to do?
Stay tuned,,, Hey Joe ! spread the ball around & let's see who's middle offensive depth might be better?
Flacco needs to be a big part of a winning a split out west.. because, Who's ready for DTR returning vs Jags next week ?
Let's Go Joe ! Finish drives & Score Touchdowns !
I disagree on browns o-line barely top 10, pretty sure when you look around the league they are a top unit. Even with big thanos and the backup LT. It’s an astronomically better unit than the Jets of last year and even this year.
Pretty sure they grade closer to top 5 than top 10 on pff. Naturally the weakest spot has been the tackles though. I think Wills comes off IR soon, maybe next week? They could help a little.
Most QBs are playing behind worse lines than the browns this year, though.
I disagree on browns o-line barely top 10, pretty sure when you look around the league they are a top unit. Even with big thanos and the backup LT. It’s an astronomically better unit than the Jets of last year and even this year.
Two lines, caught up in what 2 different playing style starting QB's had plans on doing.. label.. delayed construction..
But, Yes! The Browns OL ranks no where near the bottom with the Jets nor Panthers OL's this season
Philly,Detroit,Baltimore,KC, Dallas,49'ers are my top 6 OL's
Browns,Colts, Bucs, Miami, Chargers, Bills fills to 12
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Flacco made one boneheaded decision in an otherwise great outing. Keep it rollin’ - the late decision and not looking at the safety is the rust, I’d question the play call to go verticals there but maybe the coaches saw something.
I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco. DTR is a late round rookie project, the browns have more urgency to win now than develop him.
No hate for DTR, he is what he is - a late round project with a high upside. They have no rush to develop him, since they have Watson for the next few years.
Joe looked like he was having fun out there, you can tell the guy loves playing the game.
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Flacco made one boneheaded decision in an otherwise great outing. Keep it rollin’ - the late decision and not looking at the safety is the rust, I’d question the play call to go verticals there but maybe the coaches saw something.
I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco. DTR is a late round rookie project, the browns have more urgency to win now than develop him.
No hate for DTR, he is what he is - a late round project with a high upside. They have no rush to develop him, since they have Watson for the next few years.
Joe looked like he was having fun out there, you can tell the guy loves playing the game.
Flacco made one boneheaded decision in an otherwise great outing. Keep it rollin’ - the late decision and not looking at the safety is the rust, I’d question the play call to go verticals there but maybe the coaches saw something.
I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco. DTR is a late round rookie project, the browns have more urgency to win now than develop him.
No hate for DTR, he is what he is - a late round project with a high upside. They have no rush to develop him, since they have Watson for the next few years.
Joe looked like he was having fun out there, you can tell the guy loves playing the game.
Flacco should start the rest of the season, unless he also gets injured.
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Flacco made one boneheaded decision in an otherwise great outing. Keep it rollin’ - the late decision and not looking at the safety is the rust, I’d question the play call to go verticals there but maybe the coaches saw something.
I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco. DTR is a late round rookie project, the browns have more urgency to win now than develop him.
No hate for DTR, he is what he is - a late round project with a high upside. They have no rush to develop him, since they have Watson for the next few years.
Joe looked like he was having fun out there, you can tell the guy loves playing the game.
I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco.
As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
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I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco.
As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
Trying to make the playoffs is not a good time to try and develop a 5th round QB.
Unless Flacco came out from here out and absolutely stunk up the joint, or got injured, Stefanski IMO would lose the locker room if he started DTR over Flacco at this point.
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If he comes out the season in one piece, it is time to seriously consider him as QB2 for next season too! Developing a 5th rounder sounds like something that belongs on the practice squad, and PJ Walker doesn't belong anywhere near the NFL unfortunately.
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As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
Trying to make the playoffs is not a good time to try and develop a 5th round QB.
Unless Flacco came out from here out and absolutely stunk up the joint, or got injured, Stefanski IMO would lose the locker room if he started DTR over Flacco at this point.
Trying to make the playoffs is not a good time to try and develop a 5th round QB.
Unless Flacco came out from here out and absolutely stunk up the joint, or got injured, Stefanski IMO would lose the locker room if he started DTR over Flacco at this point.
Ya think? Flacco looks like he'll be just fine from here on out. Can we say the same about some of our Receivers or the sum of them? More on that in a second.
I'm not one to waste a lot of time bellyaching about bad calls/no calls; but I found it interesting we lost Cooper to a flag-free concussion. His head was down near the ground in that collision which is about as defenseless as it gets - but I suppose one could argue back it was more incidental than dirty in between 2 defenders.
Missing in all our concern about the QB is what reliable receivers will Flacco have to throw to if/when we don't have Cooper? Looks like he had some chemistry developing with the Cedric Tillman (who has a rookie learning curve to contend with now that he's getting more action). Njoku was a little more focused this week except for the play he was out of bounds. Elijah Moore frustrates me - maybe if I start sniffing glue I'll feel better about him. Bell caught both of his targets and 1 got us a 1st down. I'd LIKE to see Watkins get more of a chance. I'd also like to see knuckleheads with multiple drops from lack of focus getting replaced instead of reinforced/enabled by keeping them out there.
On the other side of the ball, the matchup dynamics in the secondary without Ward, Mitchell and McLeod - is a cliff dive from what we had when they were healthy. That said, the Rams pass protection also played a big part in that. I know McLeod is done for the year; but hopefully we'll one of both of the other guys back before it's too late. This is a new week; and the Browns play a team on a short week that might be without their QB. But is IS the Browns so that QB will probably be as good as new by Sunday.
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If he comes out the season in one piece, it is time to seriously consider him as QB2 for next season too! Developing a 5th rounder sounds like something that belongs on the practice squad, and PJ Walker doesn't belong anywhere near the NFL unfortunately.
If he comes out the season in one piece, it is time to seriously consider him as QB2 for next season too! Developing a 5th rounder sounds like something that belongs on the practice squad, and PJ Walker doesn't belong anywhere near the NFL unfortunately.
Agreed! And at this point, they can stop worrying about another team wanting to sign him off our practice squad.
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Trying to make the playoffs is not a good time to try and develop a 5th round QB.
Unless Flacco came out from here out and absolutely stunk up the joint, or got injured, Stefanski IMO would lose the locker room if he started DTR over Flacco at this point.
Ya think? Flacco looks like he'll be just fine from here on out. Can we say the same about some of our Receivers or the sum of them? More on that in a second.
I'm not one to waste a lot of time bellyaching about bad calls/no calls; but I found it interesting we lost Cooper to a flag-free concussion. His head was down near the ground in that collision which is about as defenseless as it gets - but I suppose one could argue back it was more incidental than dirty in between 2 defenders.
Missing in all our concern about the QB is what reliable receivers will Flacco have to throw to if/when we don't have Cooper? Looks like he had some chemistry developing with the Cedric Tillman (who has a rookie learning curve to contend with now that he's getting more action). Njoku was a little more focused this week except for the play he was out of bounds. Elijah Moore frustrates me - maybe if I start sniffing glue I'll feel better about him. Bell caught both of his targets and 1 got us a 1st down. I'd LIKE to see Watkins get more of a chance. I'd also like to see knuckleheads with multiple drops from lack of focus getting replaced instead of reinforced/enabled by keeping them out there.
On the other side of the ball, the matchup dynamics in the secondary without Ward, Mitchell and McLeod - is a cliff dive from what we had when they were healthy. That said, the Rams pass protection also played a big part in that. I know McLeod is done for the year; but hopefully we'll one of both of the other guys back before it's too late. This is a new week; and the Browns play a team on a short week that might be without their QB. But is IS the Browns so that QB will probably be as good as new by Sunday.
Ya think? Flacco looks like he'll be just fine from here on out. Can we say the same about some of our Receivers or the sum of them? More on that in a second.
I'm not one to waste a lot of time bellyaching about bad calls/no calls; but I found it interesting we lost Cooper to a flag-free concussion. His head was down near the ground in that collision which is about as defenseless as it gets - but I suppose one could argue back it was more incidental than dirty in between 2 defenders.
Missing in all our concern about the QB is what reliable receivers will Flacco have to throw to if/when we don't have Cooper? Looks like he had some chemistry developing with the Cedric Tillman (who has a rookie learning curve to contend with now that he's getting more action). Njoku was a little more focused this week except for the play he was out of bounds. Elijah Moore frustrates me - maybe if I start sniffing glue I'll feel better about him. Bell caught both of his targets and 1 got us a 1st down. I'd LIKE to see Watkins get more of a chance. I'd also like to see knuckleheads with multiple drops from lack of focus getting replaced instead of reinforced/enabled by keeping them out there.
On the other side of the ball, the matchup dynamics in the secondary without Ward, Mitchell and McLeod - is a cliff dive from what we had when they were healthy. That said, the Rams pass protection also played a big part in that. I know McLeod is done for the year; but hopefully we'll one of both of the other guys back before it's too late. This is a new week; and the Browns play a team on a short week that might be without their QB. But is IS the Browns so that QB will probably be as good as new by Sunday.
I think the Cooper hit was clean, bad luck.
The receiver room is pretty weak, but the situation isn't extremely dire - we still have some guys we can get the ball to. I'm surprised Bell seems to be at the bottom of the depth chart, he seems to get open and have reliable hands. Flacco showed he can spread the ball around and find some targets, they just gotta catch the ball.
For defense, I think people are over-rating McLeod. Some of those huge touchdown plays we gave up were solely because he was out of position (like in the game Thornhill missed). In general, our safeties have been completely lost when we play zone.
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy day in Cleveland on Sunday, so we may not miss cooper all that much anyway if he doesn't clear protocol. In the cold and windy Cleveland rain, I think Flacco will be able to manage the game well though.
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We also have Goodwin, who should be back this week? Hopefully
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I know there’s a DTR vs Flacco debate bound to ramp up this week, it’ll be Flacco.
As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
Well unless the reports are incorrect it doesn't matter now. I thought it was probably the best quarterback performance of the season but you can't win without at least a few more of your key pieces. One of them being Myles Garrett.
As far as DTR versus Flaco I guess we're officially rebuilding.?
WSS
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As @dutch-oven also indicated. There should not even be a discussion.
I also think it is what the players want. Look at the reaction after that first drive. He is more than just accepted. The team loves to have him on board!
Well unless the reports are incorrect it doesn't matter now. I thought it was probably the best quarterback performance of the season but you can't win without at least a few more of your key pieces. One of them being Myles Garrett.
As far as DTR versus Flaco I guess we're officially rebuilding.?
WSS
Well unless the reports are incorrect it doesn't matter now. I thought it was probably the best quarterback performance of the season but you can't win without at least a few more of your key pieces. One of them being Myles Garrett.
As far as DTR versus Flaco I guess we're officially rebuilding.?
WSS
The reports are not incorrect but they are misleading. Flacco was on practice squad and players automatically revert back to the practice squad after a game when called up. Just a rule thing, browns didn’t send him back down - he’ll be called up again or given a full time roster spot.
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Ya think? Flacco looks like he'll be just fine from here on out. Can we say the same about some of our Receivers or the sum of them? More on that in a second.
I'm not one to waste a lot of time bellyaching about bad calls/no calls; but I found it interesting we lost Cooper to a flag-free concussion. His head was down near the ground in that collision which is about as defenseless as it gets - but I suppose one could argue back it was more incidental than dirty in between 2 defenders.
Missing in all our concern about the QB is what reliable receivers will Flacco have to throw to if/when we don't have Cooper? Looks like he had some chemistry developing with the Cedric Tillman (who has a rookie learning curve to contend with now that he's getting more action). Njoku was a little more focused this week except for the play he was out of bounds. Elijah Moore frustrates me - maybe if I start sniffing glue I'll feel better about him. Bell caught both of his targets and 1 got us a 1st down. I'd LIKE to see Watkins get more of a chance. I'd also like to see knuckleheads with multiple drops from lack of focus getting replaced instead of reinforced/enabled by keeping them out there.
On the other side of the ball, the matchup dynamics in the secondary without Ward, Mitchell and McLeod - is a cliff dive from what we had when they were healthy. That said, the Rams pass protection also played a big part in that. I know McLeod is done for the year; but hopefully we'll one of both of the other guys back before it's too late. This is a new week; and the Browns play a team on a short week that might be without their QB. But is IS the Browns so that QB will probably be as good as new by Sunday.
I think the Cooper hit was clean, bad luck.
The receiver room is pretty weak, but the situation isn't extremely dire - we still have some guys we can get the ball to. I'm surprised Bell seems to be at the bottom of the depth chart, he seems to get open and have reliable hands. Flacco showed he can spread the ball around and find some targets, they just gotta catch the ball.
For defense, I think people are over-rating McLeod. Some of those huge touchdown plays we gave up were solely because he was out of position (like in the game Thornhill missed). In general, our safeties have been completely lost when we play zone.
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy day in Cleveland on Sunday, so we may not miss cooper all that much anyway if he doesn't clear protocol. In the cold and windy Cleveland rain, I think Flacco will be able to manage the game well though.
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We also have Goodwin, who should be back this week? Hopefully
I think the Cooper hit was clean, bad luck.
The receiver room is pretty weak, but the situation isn't extremely dire - we still have some guys we can get the ball to. I'm surprised Bell seems to be at the bottom of the depth chart, he seems to get open and have reliable hands. Flacco showed he can spread the ball around and find some targets, they just gotta catch the ball.
For defense, I think people are over-rating McLeod. Some of those huge touchdown plays we gave up were solely because he was out of position (like in the game Thornhill missed). In general, our safeties have been completely lost when we play zone.
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy day in Cleveland on Sunday, so we may not miss cooper all that much anyway if he doesn't clear protocol. In the cold and windy Cleveland rain, I think Flacco will be able to manage the game well though.
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We also have Goodwin, who should be back this week? Hopefully
I appreciate you clarifying where you're coming from about McLeod. That said, we're gonna agree to disagree about overrating him. Here's why - McLeod was brought here as experienced depth so I don't think me and others had super high expectations for the 11 year vet beyond knowledge, solid tackling and good communication skills/leadership qualities the Browns lacked at the back end in 2022. Can he can get beat at his age? Absolutely! Having said that, the reason he's here is because his former and current Defensive Coach Schwartz wanted him here. I'm certain he was well aware of what he's good and bad at. Aside from that, when we blitz a defensive back - he's usually not going to be the guy at the back end who is out of position. IMO, he's also one of our better open field tacklers. @tiamat63 probably has some great overhead shots of where breakdowns have occurred back when McLeod was still active during the 1st 10 games. I'm gonna predict he finds more problems you identified with Delpit than McLeod. I hate saying that because I think Delpit's improved in some areas; but I still think our opponents identify him as most vulnerable in the secondary. I'm not always right though so it's worth a look if Tia's got the time.
Fans/people don't always blame the right guy when a breakdown occurs. For example, I've seen Teller blamed for a missed block because the guy that lined up across from him made a TFL when Teller was trapping to the other side of Center on a counter. In actuality, the guy who should have made the block (in the area Teller vacated) but never got there was Ethan Pocic.
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I think the Cooper hit was clean, bad luck.
The receiver room is pretty weak, but the situation isn't extremely dire - we still have some guys we can get the ball to. I'm surprised Bell seems to be at the bottom of the depth chart, he seems to get open and have reliable hands. Flacco showed he can spread the ball around and find some targets, they just gotta catch the ball.
For defense, I think people are over-rating McLeod. Some of those huge touchdown plays we gave up were solely because he was out of position (like in the game Thornhill missed). In general, our safeties have been completely lost when we play zone.
Looks like it's gonna be a rainy day in Cleveland on Sunday, so we may not miss cooper all that much anyway if he doesn't clear protocol. In the cold and windy Cleveland rain, I think Flacco will be able to manage the game well though.
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We also have Goodwin, who should be back this week? Hopefully
I appreciate you clarifying where you're coming from about McLeod. That said, we're gonna agree to disagree about overrating him. Here's why - McLeod was brought here as experienced depth so I don't think me and others had super high expectations for the 11 year vet beyond knowledge, solid tackling and good communication skills/leadership qualities the Browns lacked at the back end in 2022. Can he can get beat at his age? Absolutely! Having said that, the reason he's here is because his former and current Defensive Coach Schwartz wanted him here. I'm certain he was well aware of what he's good and bad at. Aside from that, when we blitz a defensive back - he's usually not going to be the guy at the back end who is out of position. IMO, he's also one of our better open field tacklers. @tiamat63 probably has some great overhead shots of where breakdowns have occurred back when McLeod was still active during the 1st 10 games. I'm gonna predict he finds more problems you identified with Delpit than McLeod. I hate saying that because I think Delpit's improved in some areas; but I still think our opponents identify him as most vulnerable in the secondary. I'm not always right though so it's worth a look if Tia's got the time.
Fans/people don't always blame the right guy when a breakdown occurs. For example, I've seen Teller blamed for a missed block because the guy that lined up across from him made a TFL when Teller was trapping to the other side of Center on a counter. In actuality, the guy who should have made the block (in the area Teller vacated) but never got there was Ethan Pocic.
I appreciate you clarifying where you're coming from about McLeod. That said, we're gonna agree to disagree about overrating him. Here's why - McLeod was brought here as experienced depth so I don't think me and others had super high expectations for the 11 year vet beyond knowledge, solid tackling and good communication skills/leadership qualities the Browns lacked at the back end in 2022. Can he can get beat at his age? Absolutely! Having said that, the reason he's here is because his former and current Defensive Coach Schwartz wanted him here. I'm certain he was well aware of what he's good and bad at. Aside from that, when we blitz a defensive back - he's usually not going to be the guy at the back end who is out of position. IMO, he's also one of our better open field tacklers. @tiamat63 probably has some great overhead shots of where breakdowns have occurred back when McLeod was still active during the 1st 10 games. I'm gonna predict he finds more problems you identified with Delpit than McLeod. I hate saying that because I think Delpit's improved in some areas; but I still think our opponents identify him as most vulnerable in the secondary. I'm not always right though so it's worth a look if Tia's got the time.
Fans/people don't always blame the right guy when a breakdown occurs. For example, I've seen Teller blamed for a missed block because the guy that lined up across from him made a TFL when Teller was trapping to the other side of Center on a counter. In actuality, the guy who should have made the block (in the area Teller vacated) but never got there was Ethan Pocic.
Yea I get that he’s not supposed to be a star, we miss the depth I just don’t think it’s game changing depth.
However, right on about Delpit - and Thornhill for that matter. Delpit got burned out of position at least a couple times (including Steelers TD in first matchup).
Our safeties in general have really struggled for some reason, perhaps beneficiaries of a top pass rush and solid corner play in some games to mask the issues a bit.
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Well unless the reports are incorrect it doesn't matter now. I thought it was probably the best quarterback performance of the season but you can't win without at least a few more of your key pieces. One of them being Myles Garrett.
As far as DTR versus Flaco I guess we're officially rebuilding.?
WSS
The reports are not incorrect but they are misleading. Flacco was on practice squad and players automatically revert back to the practice squad after a game when called up. Just a rule thing, browns didn’t send him back down - he’ll be called up again or given a full time roster spot.
The reports are not incorrect but they are misleading. Flacco was on practice squad and players automatically revert back to the practice squad after a game when called up. Just a rule thing, browns didn’t send him back down - he’ll be called up again or given a full time roster spot.
Wknr were saying it was just some sort of roster mumbo jumbo. Hopefully the Jets don't want him too badly.
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The reports are not incorrect but they are misleading. Flacco was on practice squad and players automatically revert back to the practice squad after a game when called up. Just a rule thing, browns didn’t send him back down - he’ll be called up again or given a full time roster spot.
Wknr were saying it was just some sort of roster mumbo jumbo. Hopefully the Jets don't want him too badly.
WSS
Wknr were saying it was just some sort of roster mumbo jumbo. Hopefully the Jets don't want him too badly.
WSS
He’s secure, it’s basically a tactic they use so they can be more flexible with their roster spots. After 3 times being called up they remain on the active roster by rule. Flacco ain’t leaving the browns especially for the dumpster fire the jets are
Same happened to PJ Walker
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The reports are not incorrect but they are misleading. Flacco was on practice squad and players automatically revert back to the practice squad after a game when called up. Just a rule thing, browns didn’t send him back down - he’ll be called up again or given a full time roster spot.
Wknr were saying it was just some sort of roster mumbo jumbo. Hopefully the Jets don't want him too badly.
WSS
Wknr were saying it was just some sort of roster mumbo jumbo. Hopefully the Jets don't want him too badly.
WSS
Whoa! Slow down there Steve. This team already has me on half of the pharmacy at CVS
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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