Dawand Jones is a MANSQUATCH among Lil' boys!
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Didn't they extend his contract length and salary amount this past off-season? I thought I read that on the Browns website. I can't remember how much cake, if any, they guaranteed. It's too bad because in 1 respect Conklin is the ultimate professional and very talented when healthy. The problem is what you alluded to about him never being healthy. He tries to play through injuries a lot; but that has made him vulnerable to collateral injuries.
Now for the blind side, I think the Browns have already blindly committed to Jed's 5 year option.
Conklin should really consider retiring at this point. I believe he restructured before this season into a 3 year deal.
Jones is Conklin's longterm replacement at RT. Not sure what they will do at LT. Some have hypothesized that Jones could be the LT, I just don't know about that. I'd probably stick with him at RT and try and fix the LT problem. (Easier said than done)
Conklin should really consider retiring at this point. I believe he restructured before this season into a 3 year deal.
Jones is Conklin's longterm replacement at RT. Not sure what they will do at LT. Some have hypothesized that Jones could be the LT, I just don't know about that. I'd probably stick with him at RT and try and fix the LT problem. (Easier said than done)
I agree. Conklin has had nothing but bad luck trying to stay healthy. I think we got into this mess at Left Tackle in the first place by taking Wills who is better suited to play Right Tackle thinking it'll be an easy re-wire. We was wrong. Let's keep Jones in his comfort zone where he has a chance to develop into something great.
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Regarding Conklin- yep, the Browns are on the hook for a lot of dead cap for Jack. Not only 2024, but 2025 as well- unless he takes a retirement buyout.
Remains to be seen if he'll try to come back form that ACL injury next year.
And old Jed's a millionaire- the Browns picked up his fifth year 2024 option for $16 million. At best he's average, and at worst a liability.
The Browns are just a flat out stupid, poorly run franchise...
The Browns are just a flat out stupid, poorly run franchise...
Gosh, Mr. Eeyore, maybe you should find another team to follow?
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Gosh, Mr. Eeyore, maybe you should find another team to follow?
He might be an old sourpuss, but as far as the comment you are reacting to goes, he isn't wrong.
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A man that size walking around with a Chucky doll is all kinds of unnerving
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A man that size walking around with a Chucky doll is all kinds of unnerving
A man that size walking around with a Chucky doll is all kinds of unnerving
That there is a Gruden doll-so entirely appropriate for a football player.?
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Playing with TJ Watt lol
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Re-posting this from the Flacco thread with h/t to @texasag1969
Wow! Just wow. 100% pass protection success against TJ Watt. No pressures, hurries, nada, bupkis! We were impressed by his size from day one, but look at his footwork, the awareness, and his refined use of hands. It is all there!
What a pick! If we re-draft today based on current play, I say Dawand goes first round. Possibly top 10. This kid is worth his considerable weight in gold!
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Just in, dawand has a knee injury that requires season ending surgery. Occurred in practice last week…
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Just in, dawand has a knee injury that requires season ending surgery. Occurred in practice last week…
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Link?
I saw it in stefanski press conference but here it is
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Link?
I saw it in stefanski press conference but here it is
I saw it in stefanski press conference but here it is
Gahhh!.. there goes my OROY hopes for him...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
You have got to be freaking kidding me!!
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As much as this all sucks, I'll tell you one thing. The depth at face value of our tackles next year is going to be well above average with the amount of playing time these dudes are getting. Obviously it hasn't been ideal but I also don't think the now 4th and 5th string dudes have been abysmal either.
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I saw it in stefanski press conference but here it is
Gahhh!.. there goes my OROY hopes for him...
Gahhh!.. there goes my OROY hopes for him...
Well the "good" news- if you want to call it that- is Jed Wills is eligible to come off IR...
"However, Wills probably will need more time to recover. Veteran Geron Christian has started at left tackle since Wills’ injury and has done a valiant job protecting the various quarterbacks who have been under center in that span."
There's been speculation when Wills comes back switching Christian from left to right tackle. though I have to wonder... IIRC EDIT: Fact check Wills was indeed a right tackle at Alabama, and the Browns switched him over to the left side. So play Wills at RT, and leave Christian at LT?
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Rookie had himself a day..
Dawand Jones allowed one quarterback pressure on 37 allowed-pressure opportunities on his way to a 67.4 pass-blocking grade and recorded a 74.1 run-blocking grade.
Enjoy watching the big man's foot speed, kick, balance & long armed hand fights ?
This cutup saved me quite a bit of time, thanks for that Gumbs. A few thoughts.
- Watching Oline snaps and sifting through every single play still truly matters. Because, let's say in 19 snaps, there's going to be MAYBE half dozen that really clue you into where that player is at. I've found it to be no different watching college QB's anymore. My best example was when I had my going over of Matt Corral at Ole Miss. You get a handful of plays where the details paint the bigger picture.
- This goes back to those bigger bodies that Bama was cranking out for a while there at tackle who were just too big to play OT in the NFL - Robinson and Leatherwood come to mind. Orlando Brown Jr is another example, minus being from Bama. In order to succeed at that size, you need elite wingspan and hand usage. Your initial pass pro punch is going to make a break your ability to hold up 1 on 1. Dawand has clearly been working on his. I would suspect, because of again his size to his mobility, is why he would show up better at the longer/taller edge players such as Myles, Bosa, Armstead, Hendrickson, Arden, etc etc... Because those are the body types that allow him to use his wingspan and strength more than anything. Larger strike area means more ability to slow down the initial rush.
Would also help us to understand why he struggled with Watt. TJ is a bit more compact compared to those I've listed, while he maintains a great wingspan for his height, and his ability to work off from a tackles strike and sort of 'pace' and play off that first punch is second to none. Think of it like someone using your own momentum against you. This also gives me pause because we have some of those similarly more compact and twitchy guys coming up on the schedule - Ekubam, Nwosu, Bryce Huff, to name a few. So while this is a great start, Jonesy needs to keep building on it and help to slowly develop those weaknesses into potential, shall we say - draws?
While that is all good and well, there are times he still finds himself extended beyond the stability of his base, and sort of lunging his upper body into contact instead of trusting his arm length. From the linked video above....
This is the best example I can find. Jermaine Johnson in the pre-season saw this and tried ripping him down by pulling on his arms and toppling him over when he saw this. Problem being that he's such a mountain of a man, that's much easier said than done.
I'm content at Dawand's development. But I'm also keen to the fact that, per my snap counts, he had chip help or was dealing with a widened rusher from Njoku being inline on over half his drop backs. The majority of the rest of the drop backs involved screens, some boot action where he was washing the 1 or 3tech and/or the Browns going to the quick passing game. So there was still significant help throw his way against San Fran in the form of personnel and playcalling. Granted, it makes sense - questionable QB play, so you protect the edges and do what you can to generate cheap offense while avoiding turnovers. But I'm not one to easily impress, so while I recognize the level of game, I also recognize that DJ still has flaws he needs to continuously improve on. I'll check back in here after the game today, because I doubt the coaches will be giving him the level of help he received against Bosa. And like I mentioned above, the Colts have a couple of those shorter, 'boxy' type edge rushers.
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But DID he struggle with him? I could swear I read where he pretty much nullified Watt.
Game 1? He absolutely did.
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Jones was a solid backup to Conklin, I wonder if his massive size may lead to more lower body injuries that could derail his career. Heard it’s an MCL and he’ll be ready to go before next season.
Wills will be back and we have decent depth otherwise, Pocic injury didn’t seem serious too. If anyone can keep the group playing well it’ll be Callahan. Maybe they’ll need to add another depth piece though.
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