Tale of the Tape - Browns @ Texans
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This is another week of facing a defense that can stop the run. And with our OL in such a shambles, the offense will probably struggle again. The Texans appear vulnerable to the pass but our pass offense is still trying to get in sync with one another. And on the other side of the coin you've got the #2 pass offense against the #1 pass defense. So, it's up to the defense again. Can they force the Texans to punt enough for our offense to muster up some points?
This was not one of my Must Win games (the Bears game was though). But realistically, if we want to make the playoffs, we've got to win this game. If we lose, we fall behind the Texans in the Wild Card rankings (tiebreaker). We'd probably be tied with the Bills, Bengals and Colts too. Of our 3 remaining games, this is probably the most important one to win.
#2 pass offense against the #1 pass defense.
They have the #2 pass offense with CJ Stroud under center. Not with our old friend Case Keenum.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39150712/texans-qb-cj-stroud-likely-sunday-vs-browns-sources
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#2 pass offense against the #1 pass defense.
They have the #2 pass offense with CJ Stroud under center. Not with our old friend Case Keenum.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39150712/texans-qb-cj-stroud-likely-sunday-vs-browns-sources
They have the #2 pass offense with CJ Stroud under center. Not with our old friend Case Keenum.
Keenum is good enough. IMO
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This is another week of facing a defense that can stop the run. And with our OL in such a shambles, the offense will probably struggle again. The Texans appear vulnerable to the pass but our pass offense is still trying to get in sync with one another. And on the other side of the coin you've got the #2 pass offense against the #1 pass defense. So, it's up to the defense again. Can they force the Texans to punt enough for our offense to muster up some points?
This was not one of my Must Win games (the Bears game was though). But realistically, if we want to make the playoffs, we've got to win this game. If we lose, we fall behind the Texans in the Wild Card rankings (tiebreaker). We'd probably be tied with the Bills, Bengals and Colts too. Of our 3 remaining games, this is probably the most important one to win.
This is another week of facing a defense that can stop the run. And with our OL in such a shambles, the offense will probably struggle again. The Texans appear vulnerable to the pass but our pass offense is still trying to get in sync with one another. And on the other side of the coin you've got the #2 pass offense against the #1 pass defense. So, it's up to the defense again. Can they force the Texans to punt enough for our offense to muster up some points?
This was not one of my Must Win games (the Bears game was though). But realistically, if we want to make the playoffs, we've got to win this game. If we lose, we fall behind the Texans in the Wild Card rankings (tiebreaker). We'd probably be tied with the Bills, Bengals and Colts too. Of our 3 remaining games, this is probably the most important one to win.
Here's the reality, injuries have left us with a junior varsity Interior Offensive Line except for Teller. That's not an ideal situation for matching up on the road with a team 6th overall against the run (that also added a solid DT from the Titans recently). Having said that, the Browns are 9-5 in spite of reality. Nothing about that 2nd matchup with Baltimore had our OL looking like we could have a comeback W that day. This collection of players wins as a team with whatever way they have to end up making it happen. Hopefully that continues. Maybe I should stop trying to make sense of it all and appreciate what our team is accomplishing. This seems to be one of the closest bonded groups that has each others' backs I can recall. Myles Garrett said as much about how close this defense is in comparison to previous years.
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They have the #2 pass offense with CJ Stroud under center. Not with our old friend Case Keenum.
Keenum is good enough. IMO
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Browns favored in Vegas by 2.5 points.
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Keenum, like Flacco, has a penchant for errant throws that involve spraying them into zone coverage at times. Schwartz has been playing bigger on the outside against 21 and 12 personnel - Ward wasn't in on quite a few early downs vs Chicago. Likely to protect him being targeted in the run fit with his shoulder issue still lingering. We went man heavy given the situation. And With Denzel in, we'll continue to lean man on passing downs.
With him out? I'd suspect more zone shells. Mo and Ogbo out, Texans might turn to Singletary and Pierce to find offense. Devin is the type of RB we've struggled with this season. Limit the early downs, likely roll into those zone looks on passing downs and hopefully our pass rush can help to minimize some of the lapses on the back end.
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Yeah, he's a veteran.
Browns historically haven't played well in Houston, but this team is different.
Yes, a victory here doesn't lock anything up ( unless all that unlikely stuff happens that we've all read), but it would put them in prime position.
FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%..
Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.
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Yeah, he's a veteran.
Browns historically haven't played well in Houston, but this team is different.
Yes, a victory here doesn't lock anything up ( unless all that unlikely stuff happens that we've all read), but it would put them in prime position.
FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%..
Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.
FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%..
Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.
Yeah I agree. I'm not anticipating the Steelers winning anyway, seems like there's too much drama towards the SE now (unusual as hell). I'm not a Tomlin fan, but I do think he's a good coach, probably a bit "old school" for some of these players (Pickens, Diontae Johnson).
Plus, I think we already caught our lifetime break in 1985 when the Browns lost their last game of the season and made the playoffs anyway lol.
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If we beat the Texans losing a playoff spot becomes pretty much impossible.
Keenum doesn’t concern me nearly as much as Stroud, but he can still win games and if he was the browns starter after Watson went down I’d be more confident in him than DTR
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Keenum, like Flacco, has a penchant for errant throws that involve spraying them into zone coverage at times. Schwartz has been playing bigger on the outside against 21 and 12 personnel - Ward wasn't in on quite a few early downs vs Chicago. Likely to protect him being targeted in the run fit with his shoulder issue still lingering. We went man heavy given the situation. And With Denzel in, we'll continue to lean man on passing downs.
With him out? I'd suspect more zone shells. Mo and Ogbo out, Texans might turn to Singletary and Pierce to find offense. Devin is the type of RB we've struggled with this season. Limit the early downs, likely roll into those zone looks on passing downs and hopefully our pass rush can help to minimize some of the lapses on the back end.
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FWIW, Nex Gen stats... Browns win = 99% probability of playoffs... Loss, the odds fall to 78%..
Gosh I hate rooting for the Steelers (7% playoff odds) but they can do the Browns an immense favor beating the Bengals Saturday.
Yeah I agree. I'm not anticipating the Steelers winning anyway, seems like there's too much drama towards the SE now (unusual as hell). I'm not a Tomlin fan, but I do think he's a good coach, probably a bit "old school" for some of these players (Pickens, Diontae Johnson).
Plus, I think we already caught our lifetime break in 1985 when the Browns lost their last game of the season and made the playoffs anyway lol.
Yeah I agree. I'm not anticipating the Steelers winning anyway, seems like there's too much drama towards the SE now (unusual as hell). I'm not a Tomlin fan, but I do think he's a good coach, probably a bit "old school" for some of these players (Pickens, Diontae Johnson).
Plus, I think we already caught our lifetime break in 1985 when the Browns lost their last game of the season and made the playoffs anyway lol.
The Steelers have had an interesting run of head case WRs, haven't they?
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If we beat the Texans losing a playoff spot becomes pretty much impossible.
Keenum doesn’t concern me nearly as much as Stroud, but he can still win games and if he was the browns starter after Watson went down I’d be more confident in him than DTR
If we beat the Texans losing a playoff spot becomes pretty much impossible.
Keenum doesn’t concern me nearly as much as Stroud, but he can still win games and if he was the browns starter after Watson went down I’d be more confident in him than DTR
For a change, nice to see an opposing team with an injury report as long as ours. ? https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/
The above = Drama Queen... Flacco is playing count on it.
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If we beat the Texans losing a playoff spot becomes pretty much impossible.
Keenum doesn’t concern me nearly as much as Stroud, but he can still win games and if he was the browns starter after Watson went down I’d be more confident in him than DTR
For a change, nice to see an opposing team with an injury report as long as ours. ? https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/
The above = Drama Queen... Flacco is playing count on it.
For a change, nice to see an opposing team with an injury report as long as ours. ? https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/injury-report/
The above = Drama Queen... Flacco is playing count on it.
hope ur right
edit: edit i forgot to add, what happened to Joes beard,hope he didnt jinx himself.
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Browns Injury Report
- OL Joel Bitonio - Back, Knee - DNP
- OL Geron Christian - Shoulder - Limited
- QB Joe Flacco - Calf - Limited to Full
- RB Jerome Ford - Wrist - Limited to Full
- DE Myles Garrett - Rest, Shoulder - DNP to Full
- OL Nick Harris - Knee - Full
- RB Kareem Hunt - Groin - Limited
- LB Jordan Kunaszyk - Calf - DNP
- TE David Njoku - Rest, Knee - DNP to Limited
- DE Ogbo Okoronkwo - Pectoral - DNP
- OL Ethan Pocic - Stinger - Limited
- DE Za’Darius Smith - Not injury related - Personal - Limited
- OL Wyatt Teller - Rest, Ankle - DNP to Limited
- S Juan Thornhill - Calf - DNP
- LB Anthony Walker - Knee - Limited to DNP
- CB Denzel Ward - Shoulder - Full
Mostly improvements for Cleveland but Walker being downgraded is a concern. Bitonio spoke to the media today and stated his goal was to return to practice on Friday, a good sign.
Texans Injury Report
- DE Will Anderson - Ankle - DNP
- LB Blake Cashman - Hamstring - DNP
- TE Brevin Jordan - Illness - DNP to Limited
- OL Shaq Mason - Calf - DNP to Limited
- WR John Metchie III - Illness - DNP to Limited
- QB CJ Stroud - Concussion - DNP
- OL Laremy Tunsil - Knee - DNP to Full
- S Jimmie Ward - Concussion - DNP to Limited
- WR Noah Brown - Knee - Limited
- DT Maliek Collins - Hip - Limited
- WR Nico Collins - Calf - Limited
- LB Denzel Perryman - Achilles - Limited
- WR Robert Woods - Rest - Limited
- OL George Fant - Hip - Full
- CB Steven Nelson - Hand - Full
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EREA — Joel Bitonio didn’t practice Thursday but was able to run and stand in front of the media. That’s encouraging news after a back injury forced him from the win over the Bears in the first quarter Sunday.
“I did just get done doing a little run out there and we’re progressing really well,” the All-Pro left guard said. “So we’ll see how it goes tomorrow. But from where I was Sunday, Monday to where I’m now, it’s been a positive, and we’ll kind of take it one day at a time.”
The Browns play the Texans on Sunday in Houston, and the official status report will be released Friday afternoon.
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Bitonio said the back spasmed before the game. He started but left during the third offensive series and the pain lingered.
“Monday morning was very difficult for me to get out of bed and make it,” he said. “Just those backs, you never know. But I’m feeling a lot better now and hopefully that continues to progress.”
Bitonio doesn’t take time off. Between the start of the 2017 season and the third series Sunday, the only regular-season plays he missed were when he was inactive against the 49ers in Week 6 this year following arthroscopic knee surgery during the bye week.
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So it wasn’t easy for him to call for help against the Bears but knew he had no choice.
“When I realized they called the play and I was like, I’m going to have to pull on this play to the outside. And I was like, I don’t even think I can get in my stance right now,” Bitonio said. “So at that point I was like, I’m going to hurt the team by being out here.
“If you have back stuff, when it locks up, it locks up pretty good.”
The five-time Pro Bowler turned over his position to Michael Dunn, who earned a game ball for his performance off the bench.
“I have a lot of faith in Dunn,” Bitonio said. “I had told Dunn to be ready and he was ready like always to come in and battle.”
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So happy to see an injury-ravaged Browns team have to play in Houston Sunday, then play in Cleveland four days later on Thursday Night Football.
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So happy to see an injury-ravaged Browns team have to play in Houston Sunday, then play in Cleveland four days later on Thursday Night Football.
So happy to see an injury-ravaged Browns team have to play in Houston Sunday, then play in Cleveland four days later on Thursday Night Football.
Hell ya gonna hit 11-5
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