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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Hurts to think of what this team could have been if there was even reasonable health. 

    ...but then we wouldn't have Flacco.  

    @orion said:

    ...but then we wouldn't have Flacco.  

    As fun as a story it has been, I'd rather a healthy starting lineup than a 38 year old Flacco.

  •  Inform us before we travel to Natty  ?

    Here are the three paths for Cleveland in the last two weeks:

    Top Seed, Bye Week

    2nd Seed, Host a Wild Card Game

    • The Baltimore Ravens lose to the Miami Dolphins this week, Pittsburgh Steelers next week (Stays the same)
    • The Miami Dolphins beat the Ravens this week and the Buffalo Bills next week (Changed)
    • The Browns beat the Cincinnati Bengals in Week 18 (Stays the same)

    5th Seed, Travel for Wild Card Game

    • Every other scenario including a Cleveland loss in Week 18

    Realistic expectations are that the Browns will be traveling to play the 4th seed (the worst division champion) in the Wild Card round but

    there are realistic paths to there being a playoff home game in Cleveland this season.

  • @orion said:

    ...but then we wouldn't have Flacco.  

    As fun as a story it has been, I'd rather a healthy starting lineup than a 38 year old Flacco.

    @tiamat63 said:

    As fun as a story it has been, I'd rather a healthy starting lineup than a 38 year old Flacco.

    ....I currently don't want to change a thing.  Just get some of the guys back for the playoff game.

    I like a QB like Flacco.  A tall drink of water with a big arm.  A great Play Action Play Faker.  He drops back into the pocket and wants nothing more than to stay there and deliver the ball to a receiver.  This is just what a pass protecting offensive lineman would like.  They know where Flacco will be.  And Flacco is mobile enough to get out of a collapsing pocket...and while running with the ball, is looking to throw it and NOT have to run.   On top of all of that, he takes the top off of the defense.  He'll throw the thing long.  If he looks around and nobody's open, he's not beyond throwing it out past the longest route and see if the receiver makes a great play or a flag gets thrown.  He's 38 years football smart old, too.  

  • The Browns seem to have the knack for getting your hopes up and pulling the rug from underneath you.

    I'm not going to let that happen to me this time.  I just look at the situation for what it is, a banged up Browns squad with a 38 year old qb that are winning games, eventually they will run out of gas.

    I'm already happy (thrilled) with how the season turned out so far. I think the culture has finally changed, the Browns have themselves an identity. That's the most important thing. ANYTHING good that happens from this point on is a bonus. I'm hoping they don't run out of gas until they are the only ones left standing. But I'm not going to set myself up for letdown.

  • N Neo

    The Browns seem to have the knack for getting your hopes up and pulling the rug from underneath you.

    I'm not going to let that happen to me this time.  I just look at the situation for what it is, a banged up Browns squad with a 38 year old qb that are winning games, eventually they will run out of gas.

    I'm already happy (thrilled) with how the season turned out so far. I think the culture has finally changed, the Browns have themselves an identity. That's the most important thing. ANYTHING good that happens from this point on is a bonus. I'm hoping they don't run out of gas until they are the only ones left standing. But I'm not going to set myself up for letdown.

    @neo said:

    The Browns seem to have the knack for getting your hopes up and pulling the rug from underneath you.

    I'm not going to let that happen to me this time.  I just look at the situation for what it is, a banged up Browns squad with a 38 year old qb that are winning games, eventually they will run out of gas.

    I'm already happy (thrilled) with how the season turned out so far. I think the culture has finally changed, the Browns have themselves an identity. That's the most important thing. ANYTHING good that happens from this point on is a bonus. I'm hoping they don't run out of gas until they are the only ones left standing. But I'm not going to set myself up for letdown.

    Oh the first time the Browns take a lead in their first playoff game I can see you now. ?? 

  •  Inform us before we travel to Natty  ?

    Here are the three paths for Cleveland in the last two weeks:

    Top Seed, Bye Week

    2nd Seed, Host a Wild Card Game

    • The Baltimore Ravens lose to the Miami Dolphins this week, Pittsburgh Steelers next week (Stays the same)
    • The Miami Dolphins beat the Ravens this week and the Buffalo Bills next week (Changed)
    • The Browns beat the Cincinnati Bengals in Week 18 (Stays the same)

    5th Seed, Travel for Wild Card Game

    • Every other scenario including a Cleveland loss in Week 18

    Realistic expectations are that the Browns will be traveling to play the 4th seed (the worst division champion) in the Wild Card round but

    there are realistic paths to there being a playoff home game in Cleveland this season.

    @gumby73 said:

     Inform us before we travel to Natty  ?

    Here are the three paths for Cleveland in the last two weeks:

    Top Seed, Bye Week

    2nd Seed, Host a Wild Card Game

    • The Baltimore Ravens lose to the Miami Dolphins this week, Pittsburgh Steelers next week (Stays the same)
    • The Miami Dolphins beat the Ravens this week and the Buffalo Bills next week (Changed)
    • The Browns beat the Cincinnati Bengals in Week 18 (Stays the same)

    5th Seed, Travel for Wild Card Game

    • Every other scenario including a Cleveland loss in Week 18

    Realistic expectations are that the Browns will be traveling to play the 4th seed (the worst division champion) in the Wild Card round but

    there are realistic paths to there being a playoff home game in Cleveland this season.

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  • When your team takes care of locking up a Playoff spot on Thursday Night ? & can relax New Years Weekend...

    W?ooF !   W?ooF !   

    It's a Good Morning ☕ feeling   ?

  • Well, for all the bitching about a late season TNF game, it really came at a great time to have a mini-bye to (hopefully) get some of the wounded back in the game with the extra days off.  

    For the Bengals, Cooper should be available. He even tried running routes before the Jets game, and felt he wasn't 100%.  Let's hope Moore's concussion isn't too serious- I read that he had a seizure from that faceplant, and spent the night in the hospital . Stef says he's home and doing ok.  Walker might need to wait until the playoffs after that 'scope on his knee. Hopefully same goes for Delpit after that groin injury. Still waiting for the elusive Thornhill to finally get healthy too.  

    Sounds like Bojorquez may be healthy enough to play against the Bengals, BTW, besides punting he's also the holder on field goal tries. Which brings us to Dustin Hopkins- who's way more iffy for the Bengals game (the hamstring pull is on his plant leg, not kicking leg)... If not, at least Riley Patterson looks average in the mean time.  

  • Well, for all the bitching about a late season TNF game, it really came at a great time to have a mini-bye to (hopefully) get some of the wounded back in the game with the extra days off.  

    For the Bengals, Cooper should be available. He even tried running routes before the Jets game, and felt he wasn't 100%.  Let's hope Moore's concussion isn't too serious- I read that he had a seizure from that faceplant, and spent the night in the hospital . Stef says he's home and doing ok.  Walker might need to wait until the playoffs after that 'scope on his knee. Hopefully same goes for Delpit after that groin injury. Still waiting for the elusive Thornhill to finally get healthy too.  

    Sounds like Bojorquez may be healthy enough to play against the Bengals, BTW, besides punting he's also the holder on field goal tries. Which brings us to Dustin Hopkins- who's way more iffy for the Bengals game (the hamstring pull is on his plant leg, not kicking leg)... If not, at least Riley Patterson looks average in the mean time.  

    @hoorta said:

    For the Bengals, Cooper should be available

    If the Bengals game is inconsequential, then we take Dutch's advice...bubble wrap the players and forfeit the game (figuratively).  PJ Walker gets to play.  John Kelly, Austin Watkins Jr., ....  all of those type guys can play that game.    

  • hopefully we will have these players back for the playoffs

    • P Corey Bojorquez - Quad - Doubtful
    • WR Amari Cooper - Rest, Heel - Questionable
    • K Dustin Hopkins - Hamstring - Out
    • DE Ogbo Okoronkwo - Pectoral - Out
    •  S Grant Delphit
    • LB Anthony Walker - Out
  • Well, for all the bitching about a late season TNF game, it really came at a great time to have a mini-bye to (hopefully) get some of the wounded back in the game with the extra days off.  

    For the Bengals, Cooper should be available. He even tried running routes before the Jets game, and felt he wasn't 100%.  Let's hope Moore's concussion isn't too serious- I read that he had a seizure from that faceplant, and spent the night in the hospital . Stef says he's home and doing ok.  Walker might need to wait until the playoffs after that 'scope on his knee. Hopefully same goes for Delpit after that groin injury. Still waiting for the elusive Thornhill to finally get healthy too.  

    Sounds like Bojorquez may be healthy enough to play against the Bengals, BTW, besides punting he's also the holder on field goal tries. Which brings us to Dustin Hopkins- who's way more iffy for the Bengals game (the hamstring pull is on his plant leg, not kicking leg)... If not, at least Riley Patterson looks average in the mean time.  

    @hoorta said:

    Let's hope Moore's concussion isn't too serious-

    Bennet Omalu, the inspiration for the movie "Concussion," told TMZ Sports on Friday that he would tell Moore he should retire.

    "He was having a seizure," he said. "A seizure is a manifestation of brain damage, brain injury. . . . That is permanent damage."

    Omalu added that if Moore doesn’t retire, he would at least tell him to sit out for the rest of the season.

  • After the dust has settled.. at least in the AFC after week 17...  Browns locked into #5....  Bungles eliminated, Browns fans in SW Ohio celebrate.... 

    Steelers still have a mathematical chance, but must beat the Ravens first. It involves a lot of other losses or ties... 

    Bills are the #2 with a win or could get to go home with a loss...

    Dolphins fall to #6 if they lose to the Bills...  (don't ask me how) 

    Jags are in with a win (own tiebreakers over the Colts and Texans) and they play the lowly Panthers next Sunday too..  

    Texans- Colts (in Indy) is essentially a playoff game. Winner is in, loser goes home.  

  • After the dust has settled.. at least in the AFC after week 17...  Browns locked into #5....  Bungles eliminated, Browns fans in SW Ohio celebrate.... 

    Steelers still have a mathematical chance, but must beat the Ravens first. It involves a lot of other losses or ties... 

    Bills are the #2 with a win or could get to go home with a loss...

    Dolphins fall to #6 if they lose to the Bills...  (don't ask me how) 

    Jags are in with a win (own tiebreakers over the Colts and Texans) and they play the lowly Panthers next Sunday too..  

    Texans- Colts (in Indy) is essentially a playoff game. Winner is in, loser goes home.  

    @hoorta said:

    After the dust has settled.. at least in the AFC after week 17...  Browns locked into #5....  Bungles eliminated, Browns fans in SW Ohio celebrate....

    Glad the game next week means absolutely nothing for anyone. We can try to play as many non-starters as possible and heal the wounded.

  • @hoorta said:

    After the dust has settled.. at least in the AFC after week 17...  Browns locked into #5....  Bungles eliminated, Browns fans in SW Ohio celebrate....

    Glad the game next week means absolutely nothing for anyone. We can try to play as many non-starters as possible and heal the wounded.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Glad the game next week means absolutely nothing for anyone. We can try to play as many non-starters as possible and heal the wounded.

    Calling Walker, Texas Ranger?  😁 

    True, but it means a lot to other teams... the Fog has cleared....  The Browns (should both they and the 'Fins lose) Browns get the #5 over Miami based on better conference record...  8-4 to 7-5...  And FWIW, Cleveland is pretty much locked into playing the AFCS winner in the playoffs. The opponent TBD. I'm not about to look into 4th level tiebreakers should the Jags lose to the Panthers, the Colts beat the Texans, or the Chiefs manage to lose to the Chargers. 

    Those Bills had better win, or they're SOL....   A loss puts them at 6-6 in the AFC and 10-7...  Even with losses Cleveland and Miami can finish no worse than 11-6. The Jags, Colts, Texans, and Steelers could all finish at 10- 7.  Not exactly, as the loser of the Colts -Texans is eliminated at 9-8. All of the previous in that scenario with a win would kick Buffalo to the curb with a better conference record than 6-6.  ?

    EDIT: Call me not surprised at all- the Week 18 Schedule is out... Steelers- Ravens and Colts Texans Saturday,  and for the grand finale to the regular season Buffalo- Miami SNF....  

  • People can talk about how they’re scared of the bills or ravens…what a dumb conversation..

    Every playoff game is against the good, above .500 teams. Just get it done, I really hope January Joe is not fiction… despite the injuries, nobody will beat us with a 300 yard/3td performance from quarterback in the post season. Can Flacco keep it up or will the turnovers continue is the question.

    We’re there, if we want to make the final 4 it’ll be on a path through some of the toughest teams the nfl has to offer…teams we’ve proved that we can beat.

    i also don’t get the “season is a success if we beat a playoff team” we’ve done that recently and it’s not worthy of any banners in browns stadium. 

  • People can talk about how they’re scared of the bills or ravens…what a dumb conversation..

    Every playoff game is against the good, above .500 teams. Just get it done, I really hope January Joe is not fiction… despite the injuries, nobody will beat us with a 300 yard/3td performance from quarterback in the post season. Can Flacco keep it up or will the turnovers continue is the question.

    We’re there, if we want to make the final 4 it’ll be on a path through some of the toughest teams the nfl has to offer…teams we’ve proved that we can beat.

    i also don’t get the “season is a success if we beat a playoff team” we’ve done that recently and it’s not worthy of any banners in browns stadium. 

    @bbedward said:

    i also don’t get the “season is a success if we beat a playoff team” we’ve done that recently and it’s not worthy of any banners in browns stadium. 

    Actually the season is already a success when you go 11-5 (or 11-6 since next week is a gimme) using so many different QBs with so many injuries to just about every other position throughout the season. No other team in the history of the NFL has ever done that.

    Any further winning is just plain icing on an already baked cake.?

  • After the dust has settled.. at least in the AFC after week 17...  Browns locked into #5....  Bungles eliminated, Browns fans in SW Ohio celebrate.... 

    Steelers still have a mathematical chance, but must beat the Ravens first. It involves a lot of other losses or ties... 

    Bills are the #2 with a win or could get to go home with a loss...

    Dolphins fall to #6 if they lose to the Bills...  (don't ask me how) 

    Jags are in with a win (own tiebreakers over the Colts and Texans) and they play the lowly Panthers next Sunday too..  

    Texans- Colts (in Indy) is essentially a playoff game. Winner is in, loser goes home.  

    @hoorta said:

    Steelers still have a mathematical chance, but must beat the Ravens first. It involves a lot of other losses or ties... 

    EDIT (from @gumby73 what it takes for Stoolers to get to the play-offs

    If the Steelers win, they need Buffalo to lose at Miami or Jacksonville to lose at Tennessee. If those teams each win, the Steelers could advance in the unlikely chance that the Houston-Indianapolis game ends in a tie. 

    And you know what, as much as I hate to say it, they could even advance a round. Fins were unimpressive yesterday. Most of KC's wins have been close. And Bills have a tendency to choke in the play-offs. 

    The main questions in the AFC seem to be: who can stop the Rats, and who can stop the Browns? The answer to one probably also answers the other. 

  • Happy New Year !

    One Week left

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    Lowest seed Wildcard winner goes to Baltimore.. (bracket, easier on eyes to see)

    Do most prefer avoiding Bills (at home) or Fins? I don't think we match-up well in Miami? (just opinion)

    At Jags then to KC route shouldn't scare any team either?  

  • It’s just nice that we are in a spot where our last game is meaningless.