Daboll
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@inspecta said:
I think we are seeing something that shep said would happen. That QB competition really killed any chemistry that could of been built in training camp and preseason. What we are witnessing is a bare bones offense, we cannot fully open up the playbook for the simple fact that Quinn hasn't had the reps in practice to run these plays in a game. Same goes for a lot on the offense.Also the right side of our line might be the worst ive seen....ever
Inspecta, bringin your weekly dose of excuses for Quinnsuck.
He's here every monday morning folks. Same time, same channel.
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@danamal said:
DA isnt mobile enough to handle the rush and under pressure is where DA makes all of his mistakes,not a good enviroment for DA to play in.cuz Anderson always took too many sacks, right?
what was it 17 in the entire 2007 season? Yeah I'm sure he woulda took 6-8 yesterday.
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@inspecta said:
Hey Lumnuts, tell me how games Anderson has started with Wommack and St Clair.....I can only think of 1.
It was the game the Browns led 20-0 at the end of the 1st qtr in preseason.
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@inspecta said:
preaseason?!?Let me clarify, how many REAL games has he started with those guys....
That 1 game was in fact a REAL football game.
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@inspecta said:
I think we are seeing something that shep said would happen. That QB competition really killed any chemistry that could of been built in training camp and preseason. What we are witnessing is a bare bones offense, we cannot fully open up the playbook for the simple fact that Quinn hasn't had the reps in practice to run these plays in a game. Same goes for a lot on the offense.Also the right side of our line might be the worst ive seen....ever
In reagrd to limited reps in training camp
I have two thoughts on this.
#1.) I liked the way Mangini ran his camp this season. I witnessed drills using all the QB's on staff, where we had the QB's running (walking through) routes when they didn't have the ball in their hand. They weren't over in the back of some long line playing slap-happy with their friendly teammates, they were all learning and if they weren't throwing, they were participating somehow.
#2.) How many Training Camps did we receive reports of Tim Couch having tennis-elbow from throwing too many reps in camp? That could have just been Tim Couch being a pussy, but I think it also bears some weight.
These guys sat through a lot of film study and meeting room discussions. Each Quinn and Anderson probably threw 10,000 passes since last year, most executing this new offense.
Let's un-snap them training wheels here.
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@inspecta said:
I think we are seeing something that shep said would happen. That QB competition really killed any chemistry that could of been built in training camp and preseason. What we are witnessing is a bare bones offense, we cannot fully open up the playbook for the simple fact that Quinn hasn't had the reps in practice to run these plays in a game. Same goes for a lot on the offense.Completely overrated. In 2007 Anderson stepped on the field in game 2 after splitting reps w/ Frye and immediately had chemistry with Braylon, JJ and Winslow. The playbook didn't look limited. This is Quinn's third year on the team. Cribbs and Edwards have been here during that time and he's had reps with both. He had three games last year as the #1 to work with Edwards. He's been on the sidelines with a headset watching Braylon for two years. Hell, his best game was the one where he was named the starter Wednesday in Crennell's surprise flip-flop announcement.
Do you really think that Daboll hasn't put in the whole playbook because the QBs split reps?? After OTAs, Mini camps, training camp and two weeks of game preparation?
Did Tom Brady's playing second fiddle to Drew Bledsoe through the preseason and beginning of the season back during the first year of the Patriot's SB run require some great big adjustment period? What about when Kurt Warner took over the soon to be greatest show on turf after Trent Green was injured during the next to last preseason game? Excuses.
If the playbook is limited it's because they ripped out the pages containing throws that Quinn can't make. Truth is, the offense can't execute even basic plays and don't hold the ball long enough to establish any tempo. So far Quinn's part of the problem, not the solution.
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@inspecta said:
I think we are seeing something that shep said would happen. That QB competition really killed any chemistry that could of been built in training camp and preseason. What we are witnessing is a bare bones offense, we cannot fully open up the playbook for the simple fact that Quinn hasn't had the reps in practice to run these plays in a game. Same goes for a lot on the offense.Completely overrated. In 2007 Anderson stepped on the field in game 2 after splitting reps w/ Frye and immediately had chemistry with Braylon, JJ and Winslow. The playbook didn't look limited. This is Quinn's third year on the team. Cribbs and Edwards have been here during that time and he's had reps with both. He had three games last year as the #1 to work with Edwards. He's been on the sidelines with a headset watching Braylon for two years. Hell, his best game was the one where he was named the starter Wednesday in Crennell's surprise flip-flop announcement.
Do you really think that Daboll hasn't put in the whole playbook because the QBs split reps?? After OTAs, Mini camps, training camp and two weeks of game preparation?
Did Tom Brady's playing second fiddle to Drew Bledsoe through the preseason and beginning of the season back during the first year of the Patriot's SB run require some great big adjustment period? What about when Kurt Warner took over the soon to be greatest show on turf after Trent Green was injured during the next to last preseason game? Excuses.
If the playbook is limited it's because they ripped out the pages containing throws that Quinn can't make. Truth is, the offense can't execute even basic plays and don't hold the ball long enough to establish any tempo. So far Quinn's part of the problem, not the solution.
Completely overrated. In 2007 Anderson stepped on the field in game 2 after splitting reps w/ Frye and immediately had chemistry with Braylon, JJ and Winslow. The playbook didn't look limited. This is Quinn's third year on the team. Cribbs and Edwards have been here during that time and he's had reps with both. He had three games last year as the #1 to work with Edwards. He's been on the sidelines with a headset watching Braylon for two years. Hell, his best game was the one where he was named the starter Wednesday in Crennell's surprise flip-flop announcement.
Do you really think that Daboll hasn't put in the whole playbook because the QBs split reps?? After OTAs, Mini camps, training camp and two weeks of game preparation?
Did Tom Brady's playing second fiddle to Drew Bledsoe through the preseason and beginning of the season back during the first year of the Patriot's SB run require some great big adjustment period? What about when Kurt Warner took over the soon to be greatest show on turf after Trent Green was injured during the next to last preseason game? Excuses.
If the playbook is limited it's because they ripped out the pages containing throws that Quinn can't make. Truth is, the offense can't execute even basic plays and don't hold the ball long enough to establish any tempo. So far Quinn's part of the problem, not the solution.
THANK YOU!!!!!! I think the thing that pisses me off the most about QUinn is the same thing that pissed me off about Frye.
HALF OF THE PLAYBOOK GETS THROWN AWAY!! And it is because of nothing else outside of the fact Quinn can't make the throws. I saw the coaches trying to help him by coming out in the shotgun and going 3 or 4 wide. They did this so the defense is spread out and can't stack the box as well as givins QUinn a good look at the feild. The coaches hands are tied. Because the guy who gets the ball on every play, can't make the plays.
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I saw the coaches trying to help him by coming out in the shotgun and going 3 or 4 wide.
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Hmm.
Peyton Manning goes into a shotgun...
a lot of qbs go into the shotgun...
even barfsonhisburger is smart enough to go into a shotgun.
What?
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I saw the coaches trying to help him by coming out in the shotgun and going 3 or 4 wide.
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Hmm.
Peyton Manning goes into a shotgun...
a lot of qbs go into the shotgun...
even barfsonhisburger is smart enough to go into a shotgun.
What?
I saw the coaches trying to help him by coming out in the shotgun and going 3 or 4 wide.
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Hmm.
Peyton Manning goes into a shotgun...
a lot of qbs go into the shotgun...
even barfsonhisburger is smart enough to go into a shotgun.
What?
Yes, and teams do it for different reasons at different times. I don't think we're doing it because we have an abundance of talent like the above mentioned teams you listed and we want them on the field. Or because our QB has proven he can exploit weaknesses in defenses.
Stop. It's a valid point and an accurate observation.
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