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    @hoorta said:

    Let's hope Moore's concussion isn't too serious-

    Bennet Omalu, the inspiration for the movie "Concussion," told TMZ Sports on Friday that he would tell Moore he should retire.

    "He was having a seizure," he said. "A seizure is a manifestation of brain damage, brain injury. . . . That is permanent damage."

    Omalu added that if Moore doesn’t retire, he would at least tell him to sit out for the rest of the season.

    @syd said:

    Bennet Omalu, the inspiration for the movie "Concussion," told TMZ Sports on Friday that he would tell Moore he should retire.

    "He was having a seizure," he said. "A seizure is a manifestation of brain damage, brain injury. . . . That is permanent damage."

    Omalu added that if Moore doesn’t retire, he would at least tell him to sit out for the rest of the season.

    That's true. He'll need a brain wave test whether it's part of the protocol or not for his own safety. Wouldn't expect him back before the SB if we make it there.

  • Happy New Year !

    One Week left

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    Lowest seed Wildcard winner goes to Baltimore.. (bracket, easier on eyes to see)

    Do most prefer avoiding Bills (at home) or Fins? I don't think we match-up well in Miami? (just opinion)

    At Jags then to KC route shouldn't scare any team either?  

    @gumby73 said:

    Happy New Year !

    One Week left

    2023-NFL-Playoff-Bracket-Week-172.png.48a2be4c9138ae5fa62ab3e2e8e664e3.png

    Lowest seed Wildcard winner goes to Baltimore.. (bracket, easier on eyes to see)

    Do most prefer avoiding Bills (at home) or Fins? I don't think we match-up well in Miami? (just opinion)

    At Jags then to KC route shouldn't scare any team either?  

    Yes, except (as we know) this isn't locked in YET...  Totally possible that the Bills beat Miami to take the #2 seed...  that sends the Dolphins to play KC, and the way the Chiefs are playing lately, could easily win there. The bad thing is with the Bills at #2, I don't see the Colts or Texans beating them.  Oh, and for the Steelers to make the playoffs. fat chance of a Colts- Texans tie. 

    One game at a time though. Not surprised that Pittsburg is favored against the resting Ravens, but I am pretty shocked that Vegas has the Browns as 6 point underdogs against the Bengals. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    Happy New Year !

    One Week left

    2023-NFL-Playoff-Bracket-Week-172.png.48a2be4c9138ae5fa62ab3e2e8e664e3.png

    Lowest seed Wildcard winner goes to Baltimore.. (bracket, easier on eyes to see)

    Do most prefer avoiding Bills (at home) or Fins? I don't think we match-up well in Miami? (just opinion)

    At Jags then to KC route shouldn't scare any team either?  

    Yes, except (as we know) this isn't locked in YET...  Totally possible that the Bills beat Miami to take the #2 seed...  that sends the Dolphins to play KC, and the way the Chiefs are playing lately, could easily win there. The bad thing is with the Bills at #2, I don't see the Colts or Texans beating them.  Oh, and for the Steelers to make the playoffs. fat chance of a Colts- Texans tie. 

    One game at a time though. Not surprised that Pittsburg is favored against the resting Ravens, but I am pretty shocked that Vegas has the Browns as 6 point underdogs against the Bengals. 

    @hoorta said:

    Yes, except (as we know) this isn't locked in YET...  Totally possible that the Bills beat Miami to take the #2 seed...  that sends the Dolphins to play KC, and the way the Chiefs are playing lately, could easily win there. The bad thing is with the Bills at #2, I don't see the Colts or Texans beating them.  Oh, and for the Steelers to make the playoffs. fat chance of a Colts- Texans tie. 

    One game at a time though. Not surprised that Pittsburg is favored against the resting Ravens, but I am pretty shocked that Vegas has the Browns as 6 point underdogs against the Bengals. 

    Probably solely based on Browning vs whatever bum practice squad QB we throw out there, otherwise I expect the bungles to be resting all their star power too.

  • @hoorta said:

    Yes, except (as we know) this isn't locked in YET...  Totally possible that the Bills beat Miami to take the #2 seed...  that sends the Dolphins to play KC, and the way the Chiefs are playing lately, could easily win there. The bad thing is with the Bills at #2, I don't see the Colts or Texans beating them.  Oh, and for the Steelers to make the playoffs. fat chance of a Colts- Texans tie. 

    One game at a time though. Not surprised that Pittsburg is favored against the resting Ravens, but I am pretty shocked that Vegas has the Browns as 6 point underdogs against the Bengals. 

    Probably solely based on Browning vs whatever bum practice squad QB we throw out there, otherwise I expect the bungles to be resting all their star power too.

    @bbedward said:

    Probably solely based on Browning vs whatever bum practice squad QB we throw out there, otherwise I expect the bungles to be resting all their star power too.

    I expect to see Jeff Driskel out there, but with backups everywhere along with him. Same on D. Garrett will be a sidelines rah, rah guy (hopefully) along with most starters if we are smart about it.

  • @bbedward said:

    Probably solely based on Browning vs whatever bum practice squad QB we throw out there, otherwise I expect the bungles to be resting all their star power too.

    I expect to see Jeff Driskel out there, but with backups everywhere along with him. Same on D. Garrett will be a sidelines rah, rah guy (hopefully) along with most starters if we are smart about it.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I expect to see Jeff Driskel out there, but with backups everywhere along with him. Same on D. Garrett will be a sidelines rah, rah guy (hopefully) along with most starters if we are smart about it.

    Yep, Garrett, and all the guys who are nursing injuries and playing hurt take a seat on the sidelines.  Cooper, Njoku, Moore on offense, probably a few of the OL too. Bitonio is banged up.  Players on the defensive side, hard to tell how many will sit. (besides Garrett) Ward for sure though. Will Joe want to play a series or two is the question. 

  • Accept for Flacco.

    The veteran’s contract is set up so that he makes an extra 75K for every game he plays in that Cleveland wins. The bonuses are bigger in the postseason.

    While the Browns reportedly plan to rest as many starters as they can, they are an organization that does right by its players. Could Flacco take one snap and either take a knee or hand it off before giving way to PJ Walker? Maybe he could just stand near the sideline for a WildDawg play.

    HC Kevin Stefanski said he would discuss the decision with his quarterback:

    “But I think it’s really important that you listen to your guys, both in this building, when you’re working and you’re in meetings and when you’re out there in the practice field. I think it’s important to listen to them on game day as well.

    Cleveland’s backups would still need to knock off whatever Bengals players are on the field in a meaningless game.

    Perhaps GM Andrew Berry can adjust the contract to award Flacco with the 75K or the veteran quarterback decides it doesn’t matter to him.

    Big picture, an unimportant decision but one that will be interesting to see what happens.

  • sydS syd

    Accept for Flacco.

    The veteran’s contract is set up so that he makes an extra 75K for every game he plays in that Cleveland wins. The bonuses are bigger in the postseason.

    While the Browns reportedly plan to rest as many starters as they can, they are an organization that does right by its players. Could Flacco take one snap and either take a knee or hand it off before giving way to PJ Walker? Maybe he could just stand near the sideline for a WildDawg play.

    HC Kevin Stefanski said he would discuss the decision with his quarterback:

    “But I think it’s really important that you listen to your guys, both in this building, when you’re working and you’re in meetings and when you’re out there in the practice field. I think it’s important to listen to them on game day as well.

    Cleveland’s backups would still need to knock off whatever Bengals players are on the field in a meaningless game.

    Perhaps GM Andrew Berry can adjust the contract to award Flacco with the 75K or the veteran quarterback decides it doesn’t matter to him.

    Big picture, an unimportant decision but one that will be interesting to see what happens.

    @syd said:

    Accept for Flacco.   ( see way down below for BIG details )

    The veteran’s contract is set up so that he makes an extra 75K for every game he plays in that Cleveland wins. The bonuses are bigger in the postseason.

    While the Browns reportedly plan to rest as many starters as they can, they are an organization that does right by its players. Could Flacco take one snap and either take a knee or hand it off before giving way to PJ Walker? Maybe he could just stand near the sideline for a WildDawg play.

    HC Kevin Stefanski said he would discuss the decision with his quarterback:

    “But I think it’s really important that you listen to your guys, both in this building, when you’re working and you’re in meetings and when you’re out there in the practice field. I think it’s important to listen to them on game day as well.

    Cleveland’s backups would still need to knock off whatever Bengals players are on the field in a meaningless game.

    Perhaps GM Andrew Berry can adjust the contract to award Flacco with the 75K or the veteran quarterback decides it doesn’t matter to him.

    Big picture, an unimportant decision but one that will be interesting to see what happens.

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

  • @syd said:

    Accept for Flacco.   ( see way down below for BIG details )

    The veteran’s contract is set up so that he makes an extra 75K for every game he plays in that Cleveland wins. The bonuses are bigger in the postseason.

    While the Browns reportedly plan to rest as many starters as they can, they are an organization that does right by its players. Could Flacco take one snap and either take a knee or hand it off before giving way to PJ Walker? Maybe he could just stand near the sideline for a WildDawg play.

    HC Kevin Stefanski said he would discuss the decision with his quarterback:

    “But I think it’s really important that you listen to your guys, both in this building, when you’re working and you’re in meetings and when you’re out there in the practice field. I think it’s important to listen to them on game day as well.

    Cleveland’s backups would still need to knock off whatever Bengals players are on the field in a meaningless game.

    Perhaps GM Andrew Berry can adjust the contract to award Flacco with the 75K or the veteran quarterback decides it doesn’t matter to him.

    Big picture, an unimportant decision but one that will be interesting to see what happens.

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

    @mjp28 said:

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

  • @mjp28 said:

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    Somehow I'd be  shocked  if he would file  BANKRUPCY  in the next 2 or 5 or whatever years.  [Unlike some total idiots.)

    QUESTION :  What would any of you here do with a  $591,000  signing bonus ?   [ Ask Joe ? ]

  • @mjp28 said:

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

    After his first couple games before joining the active roster I believe he made a comment like he didnt even know how much the browns had paid him to that point. 

    And the whole thing started apparently with a photo that seemed to show him flying economy class to Cleveland.

    The man seems absurdly careful with his money despite earning boat loads of it from Baltimore. I’m sure his dividends net him more than whatever the vet min with incentives the browns are paying him.

  • Rambling

    1.) If your putting this team at risk of playing a possible future Playoff home game? Than, Yes ! this team has something to still play for. 

    2.) Fuck the Steelers ! ? I'm already tired of hearing this media circle jerk on Mason Rudolph being team savior.. Ravens at home with backups ? So what.. Beat Tomlin and throw Mason & Pickett both under the year end Bus Lane in the Pen  

  • Rambling

    1.) If your putting this team at risk of playing a possible future Playoff home game? Than, Yes ! this team has something to still play for. 

    2.) Fuck the Steelers ! ? I'm already tired of hearing this media circle jerk on Mason Rudolph being team savior.. Ravens at home with backups ? So what.. Beat Tomlin and throw Mason & Pickett both under the year end Bus Lane in the Pen  

    @gumby73 said:

    Rambling

    1.) If your putting this team at risk of playing a possible future Playoff home game? Than, Yes ! this team has something to still play for. 

    2.) Fuck the Steelers ! ? I'm already tired of hearing this media circle jerk on Mason Rudolph being team savior.. Ravens at home with backups ? So what.. Beat Tomlin and throw Mason & Pickett both under the year end Bus Lane in the Pen  

    The Steelers are in like their own couch/holcomb thing or something, hopefully they follow the rest of our 20 year path.

  • So, I'm going on the assumption that we will be playing at Jacksonville.  

  • So, I'm going on the assumption that we will be playing at Jacksonville.  

    @orion said:

    So, I'm going on the assumption that we will be playing at Jacksonville.  

    Only if the Jags win, otherwise it’ll be at Indy or Houston barring a tie.

  • @orion said:

    So, I'm going on the assumption that we will be playing at Jacksonville.  

    Only if the Jags win, otherwise it’ll be at Indy or Houston barring a tie.

    @bbedward said:

    Only if the Jags win, otherwise it’ll be at Indy or Houston barring a tie.

    Right.  Sticking my neck out that they will beat the Titans.  

  • @mjp28 said:

    ~     I don't think  Joe Flacco  needs the money.   Career earnings  -   $175,375,063.......  He should be set ....16 SEASONS..... $175,375,063.  see below !

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH  11 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$48,735,000$69,000,000$1,005,000--$26,960,000$2,100,000$147,800,0001 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,500,000---$17,000,000--$18,500,0003 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$2,826,944$1,730,000$683,820----$5,240,7641 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$418,056$2,425,000-----$2,843,055. ▪︎ LAST 3 seasons   $591,000 signing bonus  $400,000  CASH $991,244  Player Cash Earnings$$$..ENOUGH TO LIVE ON !  DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOE !  ■ CAREER EARNINGS ■  $175,375,063  <--●  ■   HE SHOULD BE WEALTHY !  ★★★

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    FWIW, easy enough to research... His place in Delaware is worth around $2 million.  🙂  

    image.thumb.png.b7b3edf3c6cae3c069c14ec92412016a.png

    Or the other Joe's  modest  $2M  house in Deleware ?   

    For a guy with about a  $175 M on a 16 year   NFL income earnings stream it screams  "reasonable spender"  to me.  Not one of these  a-holes that burn throw stacks of money with absolutely  NO INTEREST in savings anything to take care of their  "baby's mama"  just to have  mo' and mo'  babies to try to take care of ......  they make me sick.

    The NFL  tries  to warn  every single   new player about the dangers of   "sudden wealth"  and what might happen to them.  I've seen some of them, well done,  I've compared them to some of my financial education at the  BSBA level snd  MBA level.  Those  "children"  have NO ONE to blame but themselves when they go  BROKE.    NO EXCUSE !         😮

  • The other  Joe  in Delaware,  about  $1M.

    In 1996, Biden purchased four acres of secluded, lakefront land in the upscale suburb of Wilmington, Delaware, and built this 6,850-square-foot home. According to Zillow, the lot was purchased back then for $350,000 and the property is now estimated to be worth more than $1 million,

    barley-mill-road-1600197546.jpg

  • @hoorta said:

    Yeah, Joe doesn't seem to be the type that needs a $50 million house,  a million dollar boat, and ten high end cars.  ?

    Somehow I'd be  shocked  if he would file  BANKRUPCY  in the next 2 or 5 or whatever years.  [Unlike some total idiots.)

    QUESTION :  What would any of you here do with a  $591,000  signing bonus ?   [ Ask Joe ? ]

    @mjp28 said:

    Somehow I'd be  shocked  if he would file  BANKRUPCY  in the next 2 or 5 or whatever years.  [Unlike some total idiots.)

    QUESTION :  What would any of you here do with a  $591,000  signing bonus ?   [ Ask Joe ? ]

    Oh, I'd be a travellin' man.  A month in Tahiti for starters.  🙂  

    @bbedward said:

    Only if the Jags win, otherwise it’ll be at Indy or Houston barring a tie.

    What worries me BB, is should the Jags lose, that creates the possibility for the stinking Squealers to backdoor into the playoffs. ?

    Of course they have to beat the Ravens first... Then their direct path is a Bills loss.  Buffalo wins at Miami and they're done, short of the Colts and Texans tieing. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    Somehow I'd be  shocked  if he would file  BANKRUPCY  in the next 2 or 5 or whatever years.  [Unlike some total idiots.)

    QUESTION :  What would any of you here do with a  $591,000  signing bonus ?   [ Ask Joe ? ]

    Oh, I'd be a travellin' man.  A month in Tahiti for starters.  🙂  

    @bbedward said:

    Only if the Jags win, otherwise it’ll be at Indy or Houston barring a tie.

    What worries me BB, is should the Jags lose, that creates the possibility for the stinking Squealers to backdoor into the playoffs. ?

    Of course they have to beat the Ravens first... Then their direct path is a Bills loss.  Buffalo wins at Miami and they're done, short of the Colts and Texans tieing. 

    @hoorta said:

    Oh, I'd be a travellin' man.  A month in Tahiti for starters.  🙂  

    What worries me BB, is should the Jags lose, that creates the possibility for the stinking Squealers to backdoor into the playoffs. ?

    Of course they have to beat the Ravens first... Then their direct path is a Bills loss.  Buffalo wins at Miami and they're done, short of the Colts and Texans tieing. 

    If Pittsburgh ends up in the playoffs, we're gonna hear endless praise of how terrific Mike Tomlin is all over again.  He had WRs not running routes and refusing to throw blocks for teammates just a few weeks ago on the train wreck of an offense they fielded all year. They had a fight on the sidelines between Fitzpatrick and WR D. Johnson.  Sometimes, the auto-pilot success in Pittsburgh needs to be credited to the Ownership Family instead of the beneficiary. Earlier on in Tomlin's tenure - he looked like their perfect fit and they advanced in the playoffs. Once all that fizzled and most recently, the main difference between Mike Tomlin and Jeff Fisher looks to me like 1 team was complacent with 8-8 football and the other remains fine with barely making the playoffs and not advancing.  For a while, the state of Ohio (alone) was giving Tomlin 3-4 wins almost every year.  He still got that this year with Cincy being 0-5 in the division.  I just don't see the next Chuck Noll in Pittsburgh the media seems to want to see. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this and that's fine.

  • @hoorta said:

    Oh, I'd be a travellin' man.  A month in Tahiti for starters.  🙂  

    What worries me BB, is should the Jags lose, that creates the possibility for the stinking Squealers to backdoor into the playoffs. ?

    Of course they have to beat the Ravens first... Then their direct path is a Bills loss.  Buffalo wins at Miami and they're done, short of the Colts and Texans tieing. 

    If Pittsburgh ends up in the playoffs, we're gonna hear endless praise of how terrific Mike Tomlin is all over again.  He had WRs not running routes and refusing to throw blocks for teammates just a few weeks ago on the train wreck of an offense they fielded all year. They had a fight on the sidelines between Fitzpatrick and WR D. Johnson.  Sometimes, the auto-pilot success in Pittsburgh needs to be credited to the Ownership Family instead of the beneficiary. Earlier on in Tomlin's tenure - he looked like their perfect fit and they advanced in the playoffs. Once all that fizzled and most recently, the main difference between Mike Tomlin and Jeff Fisher looks to me like 1 team was complacent with 8-8 football and the other remains fine with barely making the playoffs and not advancing.  For a while, the state of Ohio (alone) was giving Tomlin 3-4 wins almost every year.  He still got that this year with Cincy being 0-5 in the division.  I just don't see the next Chuck Noll in Pittsburgh the media seems to want to see. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this and that's fine.

    @flugel said:

    If Pittsburgh ends up in the playoffs, we're gonna hear endless praise of how terrific Mike Tomlin is all over again.  He had WRs not running routes and refusing to throw blocks for teammates just a few weeks ago on the train wreck of an offense they fielded all year. They had a fight on the sidelines between Fitzpatrick and WR D. Johnson.  Sometimes, the auto-pilot success in Pittsburgh needs to be credited to the Ownership Family instead of the beneficiary. Earlier on in Tomlin's tenure - he looked like their perfect fit and they advanced in the playoffs. Once all that fizzled and most recently, the main difference between Mike Tomlin and Jeff Fisher looks to me like 1 team was complacent with 8-8 football and the other remains fine with barely making the playoffs and not advancing.  For a while, the state of Ohio (alone) was giving Tomlin 3-4 wins almost every year.  He still got that this year with Cincy being 0-5 in the division.  I just don't see the next Chuck Noll in Pittsburgh the media seems to want to see. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this and that's fine.

    Yeah, I'd definitely disagree that Tomlin isn't a top coach. It sucks, but the teams the Steelers have fielded post Big Ben have been well below average and to achieve a winning record is a tip of the cap.

    With that being said, the playoff record is going to catch up to him to your point. 4 straight losses in the playoffs going back to 2016 and the last two weren't even close games.