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  • VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #1

    Report: Browns fire offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt (msn.com)

    The Browns are reportedly making some big changes to their offensive coaching staff in the wake of their playoff loss to the Texans.

    Josina Anderson of CBS Sports reports that they have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell, and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney.

    JosinaAnderson@JosinaAnderson
    Breaking: I’m told the #Browns have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney, per source.

    Some of the players are upset from the news.
     

    Van Pelt joined the Browns when Kevin Stefanski became the team's head coach in 2020. Stefanski calls the team's offensive plays, so Van Pelt's role was focused on other responsibilities during his time in Cleveland. He had been a quarterbacks coach for the Bengals and Packers before making the move to Cleveland.

    Mitchell has spent more than two decades as an NFL assistant after playing in the league for 10 years and has been in Cleveland since 2019. McCartney joined the team as an offensive assistant in 2020 and moved to tight ends coach in 2022.   

    EOM .

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    Kind of surprising to me, but I don’t hate it.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #3

    Kind of hard to run a decent offense with 3rd string OTs and a 4th string QB don't ya think? Maybe he's being blamed for not getting better ones in both positions, but since I don't know who picks 'em I don't know for sure. I still think they may be looking in the wrong place to fire, right DEPO??

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    Someone tell me what did AVP Coordinate exactly?

  • Someone tell me what did AVP Coordinate exactly?

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    Someone tell me what did AVP Coordinate exactly?

    I think he acted more as a QB coach than anything, probably oversight of the position coaches.

    I think Stef just wants some fresh perspectives, no other teams are poaching our guys so they can’t be that desirable.

  • @nickers said:

    Someone tell me what did AVP Coordinate exactly?

    I think he acted more as a QB coach than anything, probably oversight of the position coaches.

    I think Stef just wants some fresh perspectives, no other teams are poaching our guys so they can’t be that desirable.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @bbedward said:

    I think he acted more as a QB coach than anything, probably oversight of the position coaches.

    I think Stef just wants some fresh perspectives, no other teams are poaching our guys so they can’t be that desirable.

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

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  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    stef needs his scapegoats. Baker...(still leading the Bucs in the playoffs, 337 yards, 3 touchdowns. beat the eagles.

    "1 day agoTAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and 3 touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory,  "
     
    "TAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and three touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory, despite being 3.5-point home underdogs Monday night."
    ******************************************
    Now, stefanie calls the plays, is head coach. The rbs are playing terrific, so you fire the rb coach? Njoku is an ALL PRO and you fire the TE coach? Van Pelt is a guy who is well known as an excellent coach.
    It's stefanie that calls the plays, runs the show, is head coach.
     
    yeah, stefanie - Mayfield throws for 337 yards against the EAGLES defense? 3 touchdowns? 32-9 ? but you play him as the guy that made you fail? What about now? That last playoff loss, you suck.
  • Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Surprised about Stump Mitchell for sure. He & Callahan have been a team for awhile.

    I suppose they had a staff meeting or two, and coaches aired concerns or grievances. Or maybe the assistants wanted to be set free. 

    I think most of the fans were ok with this offense, considering  the injury circumstances. 

    I'm looking forward to 2024. 

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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    A part of this puzzle too is that RB coach Stump Mitchell and TE coach were canned too. I'm guessing they have an OC already on the hire list and are given them reign to hire those guys for the team. I thought ol' Stump did a fantastic job coaching up the RBs but what do I know.

    I'm not categorically opposed to it- the offense was just wonky with Watson under center. Someone also made a fair point that it's not like these guys were being poached in ways we see across the league in other "offense first" coached teams like San Fran, LA Rams, etc.

  • stef needs his scapegoats. Baker...(still leading the Bucs in the playoffs, 337 yards, 3 touchdowns. beat the eagles.

    "1 day agoTAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and 3 touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory,  "
     
    "TAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and three touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory, despite being 3.5-point home underdogs Monday night."
    ******************************************
    Now, stefanie calls the plays, is head coach. The rbs are playing terrific, so you fire the rb coach? Njoku is an ALL PRO and you fire the TE coach? Van Pelt is a guy who is well known as an excellent coach.
    It's stefanie that calls the plays, runs the show, is head coach.
     
    yeah, stefanie - Mayfield throws for 337 yards against the EAGLES defense? 3 touchdowns? 32-9 ? but you play him as the guy that made you fail? What about now? That last playoff loss, you suck.
    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    stef needs his scapegoats. Baker...(still leading the Bucs in the playoffs, 337 yards, 3 touchdowns. beat the eagles.

    "1 day agoTAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and 3 touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory,  "
     
    "TAMPA -- Battling rib and ankle injuries, Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield threw for 337 yards and three touchdowns to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles 32-9 in the wild-card round, securing the Buccaneers' largest playoff win since their 27-point Super Bowl XXXVII victory, despite being 3.5-point home underdogs Monday night."
    ******************************************
    Now, stefanie calls the plays, is head coach. The rbs are playing terrific, so you fire the rb coach? Njoku is an ALL PRO and you fire the TE coach? Van Pelt is a guy who is well known as an excellent coach.
    It's stefanie that calls the plays, runs the show, is head coach.
     
    yeah, stefanie - Mayfield throws for 337 yards against the EAGLES defense? 3 touchdowns? 32-9 ? but you play him as the guy that made you fail? What about now? That last playoff loss, you suck.

    Mayfield did look good, but the Eagles looked like a 5th grade CYO team trying to tackle. Honestly, I'm not discrediting Baker at all, hit hit the guys on the numbers....but I swear 220+ yards were after the catch & arm tackles.

    I've got no stake in the TB-Lions game, let's see how it goes. The Lions aren't a great pass D.

  • @bbedward said:

    I think he acted more as a QB coach than anything, probably oversight of the position coaches.

    I think Stef just wants some fresh perspectives, no other teams are poaching our guys so they can’t be that desirable.

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

    81b35560-389f-48be-bc62-08f9212419f1_1140x641.jpg

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

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    Probably because she's an assistant coach. So if the boss is staying, why would the assistants be fired?  

    Ya fucking retard.  Do humanity a favor and at minimum clear your posts with your mother first. She might help prevent you from saying dumb shit. 

    This moron aside, not a fan of rolling heads for the sake of optics.  Especially coach Stump.  He's done a hell of a job with every player under his wing so far.  And if Andrew Berry is concerned why Ford hasn't developed into the next Chubb by now, being that they're of a similar physical mold, at some point it has to be understood that you don't hit home runs on every single pick.  Some players just are what they are. 

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #12

    I was surprised to read this , this morning

  • Report: Browns fire offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt (msn.com)

    The Browns are reportedly making some big changes to their offensive coaching staff in the wake of their playoff loss to the Texans.

    Josina Anderson of CBS Sports reports that they have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell, and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney.

    JosinaAnderson@JosinaAnderson
    Breaking: I’m told the #Browns have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney, per source.

    Some of the players are upset from the news.
     

    Van Pelt joined the Browns when Kevin Stefanski became the team's head coach in 2020. Stefanski calls the team's offensive plays, so Van Pelt's role was focused on other responsibilities during his time in Cleveland. He had been a quarterbacks coach for the Bengals and Packers before making the move to Cleveland.

    Mitchell has spent more than two decades as an NFL assistant after playing in the league for 10 years and has been in Cleveland since 2019. McCartney joined the team as an offensive assistant in 2020 and moved to tight ends coach in 2022.   

    EOM .

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @vambo said:

    Report: Browns fire offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt (msn.com)

    The Browns are reportedly making some big changes to their offensive coaching staff in the wake of their playoff loss to the Texans.

    Josina Anderson of CBS Sports reports that they have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell, and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney.

     

    Van Pelt joined the Browns when Kevin Stefanski became the team's head coach in 2020. Stefanski calls the team's offensive plays, so Van Pelt's role was focused on other responsibilities during his time in Cleveland. He had been a quarterbacks coach for the Bengals and Packers before making the move to Cleveland.

    Mitchell has spent more than two decades as an NFL assistant after playing in the league for 10 years and has been in Cleveland since 2019. McCartney joined the team as an offensive assistant in 2020 and moved to tight ends coach in 2022.

    Thanks for the update Vambo!    I just turned on the NFL Channel and it scrolled the names of the coaches the Browns fired.  Then, it said Alex Van Pelt remains under contract.  Having said that, it's possible your update/news above is more recent.  I'll double-check it all later for us.

  • @nickers said:

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

    81b35560-389f-48be-bc62-08f9212419f1_1140x641.jpg

    Probably because she's an assistant coach. So if the boss is staying, why would the assistants be fired?  

    Ya fucking retard.  Do humanity a favor and at minimum clear your posts with your mother first. She might help prevent you from saying dumb shit. 

    This moron aside, not a fan of rolling heads for the sake of optics.  Especially coach Stump.  He's done a hell of a job with every player under his wing so far.  And if Andrew Berry is concerned why Ford hasn't developed into the next Chubb by now, being that they're of a similar physical mold, at some point it has to be understood that you don't hit home runs on every single pick.  Some players just are what they are. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @tiamat63 said:

    Probably because she's an assistant coach. So if the boss is staying, why would the assistants be fired?  

    Ya fucking retard.  Do humanity a favor and at minimum clear your posts with your mother first. She might help prevent you from saying dumb shit.

    But that got a cal endorsement, so it must be accurate.?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Probably because she's an assistant coach. So if the boss is staying, why would the assistants be fired?  

    Ya fucking retard.  Do humanity a favor and at minimum clear your posts with your mother first. She might help prevent you from saying dumb shit.

    But that got a cal endorsement, so it must be accurate.?

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    But that got a cal endorsement, so it must be accurate.?

    Tiamet the whiney bitch can go suck a turd if he can't hang with the big boys...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    But that got a cal endorsement, so it must be accurate.?

    Tiamet the whiney bitch can go suck a turd if he can't hang with the big boys...

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @nickers said:

    Tiamet the whiney bitch can go suck a turd if he can't hang with the big boys...

    nickers your mom is fucking pissed off at you, She said TO GO GET YOUR FUCKING HELMET

  • @bbedward said:

    I think he acted more as a QB coach than anything, probably oversight of the position coaches.

    I think Stef just wants some fresh perspectives, no other teams are poaching our guys so they can’t be that desirable.

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

    81b35560-389f-48be-bc62-08f9212419f1_1140x641.jpg

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @nickers said:

    Then how does this woke diversity hire still have a job?

    81b35560-389f-48be-bc62-08f9212419f1_1140x641.jpg

    nickers is woke.jpeg

  • @texasag1969 said:

    But that got a cal endorsement, so it must be accurate.?

    Tiamet the whiney bitch can go suck a turd if he can't hang with the big boys...

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
    #18

    @nickers said:

    Tiamet the whiney bitch can go suck a turd if he can't hang with the big boys...

    Who exactly are "the big boys"? ? 

    nickers is cranky... his mom must have grounded him again. 

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    Are you really the offensive coordinator if you are calling the plays?  In name only, I guess

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #20

    So, back to the topic at hand....

    Stefanski is at home with a pro-style, run first/play-action off that offense. Likes multi-TE sets. It's why he had some success with the likes of Mayfield, Brissett and Flacco.

    I don't think he's a good fit with a QB who is a shotgun/RPO type of fella. I'm guessing Van Pelt isn't either.

    My hope is that he hires an OC who is, and he allows that OC to call the plays. This could be a good move long-term. 

    No idea about the other two guys and why they were fired.