Take Tim Couch out and put in Derek Anderson
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Quinn will get his chance but do you really think Mangini will let this go all season without playing anderson?
In 2007 Mangini benched Chad Pennington at the halfway mark. They were 1-7 at the time.
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greythan the evidence about DA is in 10 wins, best franchise home record all time and 29tds 3700 yards in a season saddled with a terrible offense.
Huh?
the 2008 season we everyone was banged up and our skill players lost their minds along with wierd offensive playcalling. The evidence is there that it is POSSIBLE that DA who from a 6th round practice squad guy held off a much wanted first rounder.....
How was the 2008 environment different from the 2009? We don't have the same level of skill players from last year. Offensive playcalling could be coined "weird" this year too.
DA didn't hold off the first rounder. He actually was benched last year midseason giving way to the first rounder. He came back in after the first rounder was injured, got injured himself and promptly lost the job again to the first rounder in training camp this year.
Do I think DA is the absolute answer? NO but from the evidence of quinns last 4 starts he stagnates the offense and I would rather have a hot cold interception prone YOUNG gun slinger who at least can ignite the offense.
Yup, four games is certainly enough to draw conclusions. You got me there. I'm wondering why you didn't use his entire body of five starts?
DA is young and can develop the same as quinn, however he has an NFL arm where quinn does not.
What evidence might you offer that a QB with four years of league experience and nearly 30 starts has the same developmental runway as a QB with four starts? Who knows what their respective ceilings are, but asserting that their potential for development is the same when there is a chasm of difference in NFL experience is assinine.
Also, show me the evidence that Quinn doesn't have an NFL arm. I have yet to see an effective arm strength argument. Accuracy? Yup, I've heard that one. Results? Yup, he's laid two eggs so far this year. Arm strength? He throws a ball as hard as Brees I'm sure.
It really does not matter I think if BQ leads the teams offense to the same mediocrity for 2-3 more games a change will definately be coming. IF he lights it up or shows progress than he will probably be safe until the bye week if not the season. The next 2 games are crucial for his career and our teams direction this year and next.
I think you are being generous with mediocrity. Quinn's been worse than that.
I don't know if its a two game leash or not. I think Quinn would have to seriously out-stink his teammates to get benched after the Cincy game. Again, there's been no running game which is often quoted as why DA struggled in 06/08 and also credited as part of his success during 07.
We play the ravens which for quinn is more bad news and he might have a chance against Cinci...(they look improved and dangerous) and then Pittsburgh.... He would be possibly 1-4 at the best case 0-5 most likely. combine that with last year he might end up 1-7 for his first 8 games.
Agreed, the schedule isn't friendly. We really left a possible win out there this past Sunday.
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and you think we're going to the playoffs? or have any pressure games? the season is conceded now, so i'd ask for a better excuse.
Did I say that? Learn reading comprehension. The point is that DA isn't going to get this team much better either. Will Quinn get better? I have no idea. But I do know that not all QBs break out at the same pace. Once more, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, and Troy Aikman are perfect examples of that. At some point there has to be some patience to find out. IMO playing DA means the season is already over so they might as well spend the time to find out if Quinn will figure it out. Otherwise its time for a new QB because then neither one on the team will be the answer.
Did I say that? Learn reading comprehension.
you did....why insinuate that its important that DA can't perform in the situations then? we suck huge, then why does any of that matter?
better yet, just learn to not suck at the internet, and post your point straight away rather than use some bullshit excuse to try and save your boyfriends face.
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Again, don't want to start shit. The defense ain't going to stop the Bronco's now anyhow, but Brady Quinn hasn't been able to do shit except throw the ball 3-4 yards shy of the sticks on 3rd and long.
We are getting buried in the division, there is plenty of time to play Brady, Anderson, Ratliff, Tim Couch, Spergun Wynn, or any other.
Just go to a fresher guy, for the sake of finishing off this bullshit Bellichick style.
Wait, I may be on to something ... punt on 3rd down so I don't have to sit through another dink-n-dunk under the sticks.
Again, don't want to start shit. The defense ain't going to stop the Bronco's now anyhow, but Brady Quinn hasn't been able to do shit except throw the ball 3-4 yards shy of the sticks on 3rd and long.
We are getting buried in the division, there is plenty of time to play Brady, Anderson, Ratliff, Tim Couch, Spergun Wynn, or any other.
Just go to a fresher guy, for the sake of finishing off this bullshit Bellichick style.
Wait, I may be on to something ... punt on 3rd down so I don't have to sit through another dink-n-dunk under the sticks.
Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Again, don't want to start shit. The defense ain't going to stop the Bronco's now anyhow, but Brady Quinn hasn't been able to do shit except throw the ball 3-4 yards shy of the sticks on 3rd and long.
We are getting buried in the division, there is plenty of time to play Brady, Anderson, Ratliff, Tim Couch, Spergun Wynn, or any other.
Just go to a fresher guy, for the sake of finishing off this bullshit Bellichick style.
Wait, I may be on to something ... punt on 3rd down so I don't have to sit through another dink-n-dunk under the sticks.
Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
And this year? Are you really going to count Cribbs TD return, and points off of the short field on the opening onside kick attempt, and the opening kick-off fumble? If not, it's 13-points with a healthy team ... six while fans were actually still left in the stadium and the concessions were still open.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Ahh ... I seen that dive before, it came it week one while recovering a backward pass.
Maybe this week he can master Roger Dangerfield's triple Lindy!
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Again, don't want to start shit. The defense ain't going to stop the Bronco's now anyhow, but Brady Quinn hasn't been able to do shit except throw the ball 3-4 yards shy of the sticks on 3rd and long.
We are getting buried in the division, there is plenty of time to play Brady, Anderson, Ratliff, Tim Couch, Spergun Wynn, or any other.
Just go to a fresher guy, for the sake of finishing off this bullshit Bellichick style.
Wait, I may be on to something ... punt on 3rd down so I don't have to sit through another dink-n-dunk under the sticks.
Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Hmmm...not saying it was his fault, but if he was playing like the infielders i coached over the years he would be expecting a bad bounce.
Seemed unathletic to me.
It did bounce back at him.
Not blaming him though,,,it wasn't a perfect snap.
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it wasn't a perfect snap.
Huh? My nine year old can snap the shotgun better than that.
That was probably one of the worst shotgun snaps I've ever seen. Looked like my trying to hit a chip shot and getting it a little fat.
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Yeah, I have access and its a nothing article with no source. Just a sensationalized title.
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Did I say that? Learn reading comprehension.
you did....why insinuate that its important that DA can't perform in the situations then? we suck huge, then why does any of that matter?
better yet, just learn to not suck at the internet, and post your point straight away rather than use some bullshit excuse to try and save your boyfriends face.
you did....why insinuate that its important that DA can't perform in the situations then? we suck huge, then why does any of that matter?
better yet, just learn to not suck at the internet, and post your point straight away rather than use some bullshit excuse to try and save your boyfriends face.
LOL...whatever dude. I wasn't using any bullshit excuse for anything. Its a PROVEN FACT that DA sucks under pressure, he did in 2007 and he did again in 2008. But go ahead and read more into it asswipe, maybe when you remove your boyfriend's tool from your mouth you can see what's posted just a bit better.
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Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
And this year? Are you really going to count Cribbs TD return, and points off of the short field on the opening onside kick attempt, and the opening kick-off fumble? If not, it's 13-points with a healthy team ... six while fans were actually still left in the stadium and the concessions were still open.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Ahh ... I seen that dive before, it came it week one while recovering a backward pass.
Maybe this week he can master Roger Dangerfield's triple Lindy!
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it wasn't a perfect snap.
Huh? My nine year old can snap the shotgun better than that.
That was probably one of the worst shotgun snaps I've ever seen. Looked like my trying to hit a chip shot and getting it a little fat.
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Just think, last year after the first 2 weeks we only had 16 points on the board via body by Dumb Ass. Trust me, I saw it without the jello shots.
And this year? Are you really going to count Cribbs TD return, and points off of the short field on the opening onside kick attempt, and the opening kick-off fumble? If not, it's 13-points with a healthy team ... six while fans were actually still left in the stadium and the concessions were still open.
BTW, did anyone see that courageous head first dive by Quinn chasing after that atrocious snap? That kid's got balls the size of grapefruits they just don't grow out in Oregon.
- Tom F.
Ahh ... I seen that dive before, it came it week one while recovering a backward pass.
Maybe this week he can master Roger Dangerfield's triple Lindy!
And this year? Are you really going to count Cribbs TD return, and points off of the short field on the opening onside kick attempt, and the opening kick-off fumble? If not, it's 13-points with a healthy team ... six while fans were actually still left in the stadium and the concessions were still open.
Ahh ... I seen that dive before, it came it week one while recovering a backward pass.
Maybe this week he can master Roger Dangerfield's triple Lindy!
So you ONLY want to count kick returns when Dumb Ass starts? Like I said, last year at this time we had 16 points to our name when you informed us you didn't want to hear any whining about the QB. And in our 3rd game - DA treated us to 10 points. It was so wonderful, Loverboy had Casey Casem dedicating Frankie Valley's "My Eyes Adored You" to DA on the top 40 countdown.
- Tom F.
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And this year? Are you really going to count Cribbs TD return, and points off of the short field on the opening onside kick attempt, and the opening kick-off fumble? If not, it's 13-points with a healthy team ... six while fans were actually still left in the stadium and the concessions were still open.
Ahh ... I seen that dive before, it came it week one while recovering a backward pass.
Maybe this week he can master Roger Dangerfield's triple Lindy!
So you ONLY want to count kick returns when Dumb Ass starts? Like I said, last year at this time we had 16 points to our name when you informed us you didn't want to hear any whining about the QB. And in our 3rd game - DA treated us to 10 points. It was so wonderful, Loverboy had Casey Casem dedicating Frankie Valley's "My Eyes Adored You" to DA on the top 40 countdown.
- Tom F.
So you ONLY want to count kick returns when Dumb Ass starts? Like I said, last year at this time we had 16 points to our name when you informed us you didn't want to hear any whining about the QB. And in our 3rd game - DA treated us to 10 points. It was so wonderful, Loverboy had Casey Casem dedicating Frankie Valley's "My Eyes Adored You" to DA on the top 40 countdown.
- Tom F.
Flugs I love your line of thinking, but I think a more suitable song would be this.
The flat out bitchin REO SPEEDWAGON with 'KEEP ON LOVING YOU'
You shouldve seen by the look in my eyes, baby
There was somethin missin
You shouldve known by the tone of my voice, maybe
But you didnt listen
You played dead
But you never bled
Instead you lay still in the grass
All coiled up and hissin
And though I know all about those men
Still I dont remember
Cause it was us baby, way before then
And were still together
And I meant, every word I said
When I said that I love you I meant
That I love you forever
And Im gonna keep on lovin you
Cause its the only thing I wanna do
I dont wanna sleep
I just wanna keep on lovin you
(solo)
And I meant every word I said
When I said that I love you I meant
That I love you forever
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Since we are talking music let me throw this song out -
one of my personal favs ... can anyone guess the singer ?
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Since we are talking music let me throw this song out -
one of my personal favs ... can anyone guess the singer ?
Since we are talking music let me throw this song out -
one of my personal favs ... can anyone guess the singer ?
Lumfreddy?
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Since we are talking music let me throw this song out -
one of my personal favs ... can anyone guess the singer ?
Lumfreddy?
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greythan the evidence about DA is in 10 wins, best franchise home record all time and 29tds 3700 yards in a season saddled with a terrible offense.
the 2008 season we everyone was banged up and our skill players lost their minds along with wierd offensive playcalling. The evidence is there that it is POSSIBLE that DA who from a 6th round practice squad guy held off a much wanted first rounder.....
Do I think DA is the absolute answer? NO but from the evidence of quinns last 4 starts he stagnates the offense and I would rather have a hot cold interception prone YOUNG gun slinger who at least can ignite the offense.
DA is young and can develop the same as quinn, however he has an NFL arm where quinn does not.
It really does not matter I think if BQ leads the teams offense to the same mediocrity for 2-3 more games a change will definately be coming. IF he lights it up or shows progress than he will probably be safe until the bye week if not the season. The next 2 games are crucial for his career and our teams direction this year and next.
We play the ravens which for quinn is more bad news and he might have a chance against Cinci...(they look improved and dangerous) and then Pittsburgh.... He would be possibly 1-4 at the best case 0-5 most likely. combine that with last year he might end up 1-7 for his first 8 games.
greythan the evidence about DA is in 10 wins, best franchise home record all time and 29tds 3700 yards in a season saddled with a terrible offense.
the 2008 season we everyone was banged up and our skill players lost their minds along with wierd offensive playcalling. The evidence is there that it is POSSIBLE that DA who from a 6th round practice squad guy held off a much wanted first rounder.....
Do I think DA is the absolute answer? NO but from the evidence of quinns last 4 starts he stagnates the offense and I would rather have a hot cold interception prone YOUNG gun slinger who at least can ignite the offense.
DA is young and can develop the same as quinn, however he has an NFL arm where quinn does not.
It really does not matter I think if BQ leads the teams offense to the same mediocrity for 2-3 more games a change will definately be coming. IF he lights it up or shows progress than he will probably be safe until the bye week if not the season. The next 2 games are crucial for his career and our teams direction this year and next.
We play the ravens which for quinn is more bad news and he might have a chance against Cinci...(they look improved and dangerous) and then Pittsburgh.... He would be possibly 1-4 at the best case 0-5 most likely. combine that with last year he might end up 1-7 for his first 8 games.
1) It's been well documented a bunch of DA's wins in the 2007 season came against the dregs of the NFL. 2008 injuries? the great ones rise above it- like Tom Brady when half of the team was on IR- DBs playing wr- remember?
2) Quinn doesn't have an NFL arm? Really? You're way too in love with velocity Sev. By that yardstick, I guess Joe Montana and Brian Sipe didn't have "NFL arms" either. Velocity don't mean squat if you can't control it- see George, Jeff for exhibit "A", and seasons 1-3 of Elway, John for exhibit "B".
Apparently, you're willing to bet that DA has learned to take something off his 95mph fastball, and throw an accurate short touch pass. Sorry, I saw nothing in the preseason that indicated he's learned to do that.
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velocity does help the ball go over 10 yards downfield. but i dont think that was the point....
next games, im gettin my shotgun out, too many ducks flyin around that i'll surely get something to eat.
in other words, accuracy....the trait everyone digs on DA about, is non-existent in quinns game.
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velocity does help the ball go over 10 yards downfield. but i dont think that was the point....
next games, im gettin my shotgun out, too many ducks flyin around that i'll surely get something to eat.
in other words, accuracy....the trait everyone digs on DA about, is non-existent in quinns game.
in other words, accuracy....the trait everyone digs on DA about, is non-existent in quinns game.
Not to pile-on poor Brady Queen, but he hasn't impressed me with his touch on passes either.
.... and, had DA set Cribbs up to get smacked in the teeth in the jaws of the Bronco's defense down the middle like Quinn did, the Nation would have been screaming. It a wonder that Cribbs ain't out for this next game, he took some pops.
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