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  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    good for him

    Patriots Hire Browns OC

    sad to see him go - he is highly respected all around the NFL.

    And the rest of the NFL knows he was just a scapegoat.

    Check it out:

    https://mirrorsports.co.uk/2024/01/25/pro-bowler-joel-bitonio-breaks-silence-on-browns-firing-offensive-coaches/

    "

    “I cherished AVP. He was an extraordinary fellow and turned out to be beneficial things for us,” Bitonio said, per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Signal Diary. ” I know him and [head mentor Kevin] Stefanski and actually the entire staff worked really hard of getting us in the right plays. I didn’t know anything about [Van Pelt’s] until I saw it on Twitter like every other person, so it’s generally a tad of shock.”

    Bitonio remarked further, showing that the decision to continue on from Van Pelt might have been more Stefanski’s than that of senior supervisor Andrew Berry."

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress

    Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress - Dawgs By Nature

    Oh C'mon!  Does Breer really expect us to believe that Haslem & DePo were behind this?   I mean, does it sound at all like those two to get rid of the only guy to call plays to a playoff victory for us this century?   

    Watson's progress!  AVP has had to work with a myriad of QB's the last two seasons....because Watson A) wasn't allowed to play, and b)  was injured most of the time.  It's AVP's fault.  Geeze.

  • Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress

    Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress - Dawgs By Nature

    Oh C'mon!  Does Breer really expect us to believe that Haslem & DePo were behind this?   I mean, does it sound at all like those two to get rid of the only guy to call plays to a playoff victory for us this century?   

    Watson's progress!  AVP has had to work with a myriad of QB's the last two seasons....because Watson A) wasn't allowed to play, and b)  was injured most of the time.  It's AVP's fault.  Geeze.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by

    @orion said:

    Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress

    Breer: Browns fired Alex Van Pelt because ownership, Paul DePodesta weren’t happy with Deshaun Watson’s progress - Dawgs By Nature

    Oh C'mon!  Does Breer really expect us to believe that Haslem & DePo were behind this?   I mean, does it sound at all like those two to get rid of the only guy to call plays to a playoff victory for us this century?   

    Watson's progress!  AVP has had to work with a myriad of QB's the last two seasons....because Watson A) wasn't allowed to play, and b)  was injured most of the time.  It's AVP's fault.  Geeze.

    ∆Yes sir, silly season is upon us.

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead.. I just hope I'm up for the task... Most days pretty good.. some days meh... But the distractions are welcome... Lets just hope the team.. And the Fans come out okay... big prayers for Nick Chubb...  Bigger prayers for us!!!..We invest so much from our hearts... I honestly expect a different looking team next season... Can't say which way... It's gonna depend where the losses and gains happen.. That within itself is a game of Craps..... More smoke and mirrors I presume... That's not always bad... But you can only trick a pony so long.... Watch,wait and see as it were.... "Buh dum tiss!!!!"

  • Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead.. I just hope I'm up for the task... Most days pretty good.. some days meh... But the distractions are welcome... Lets just hope the team.. And the Fans come out okay... big prayers for Nick Chubb...  Bigger prayers for us!!!..We invest so much from our hearts... I honestly expect a different looking team next season... Can't say which way... It's gonna depend where the losses and gains happen.. That within itself is a game of Craps..... More smoke and mirrors I presume... That's not always bad... But you can only trick a pony so long.... Watch,wait and see as it were.... "Buh dum tiss!!!!"

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead.

    So where ya goin' this year?

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    He was our DLine coach....and we recently hired a new one...so this makes sense.  

  • @nickers said:

    Hmmmphhhfff tis le offseason!!!!... Thank God I have a big year of travels ahead.

    So where ya goin' this year?

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers

    @texasag1969 said:

    So where ya goin' this year?

    Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So where ya goin' this year?

    Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full!

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full!

    What part of Florida Nicks?

  • @nickers said:

    Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full!

    What part of Florida Nicks?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    What part of Florida Nicks?

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

  • @nickers said:

    Fla to visit Mum for a week.. do some repairs for her.... Then a trip to southern Ohio to celebrate my nieces college graduation (Miami) in the spring... There's a camping trip inbetween there somewhere.. Then a big trip to Europe in June.. And then Deep Creek State Park in west Maryland for a week in August followed by another camping trip in the fall.. Id say my plate is well full!

    What part of Florida Nicks?

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    What part of Florida Nicks?

    Ponce Inlet on the east coast between Daytona and New Smyrna

  • @flugel said:

    What part of Florida Nicks?

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @texasag1969 said:

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

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    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    Will your Mom adopt a new brother nickers? I still snorkel.??

  • @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    Will your Mom adopt a new brother nickers? I still snorkel.??

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers

    @texasag1969 said:

    Will your Mom adopt a new brother nickers? I still snorkel.??

    Hell no her child rearing years are OVER!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

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    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    Ghoolie, if you're reading - this is Myrtle Beach, SC.   

  • @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    Ghoolie, if you're reading - this is Myrtle Beach, SC.   

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Ghoolie, if you're reading - this is Myrtle Beach, SC.   

    I think Ghoolie is still trying to look up Taylor Swift's skirt...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Same question. Near any good beaches?

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

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    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    I'm almost directly across the state in Hudson, FL - right near New Port Richey. 

  • @nickers said:

    My Mothers backyard is the beach...

    2023-05-08_06-49-50_748.jpeg

    2023-05-08_06-56-16_278.jpeg

    I'm almost directly across the state in Hudson, FL - right near New Port Richey. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    I'm almost directly across the state in Hudson, FL - right near New Port Richey. 

    Yeah I think I went through Hudson once,, Been through Ocala and Chilota too... That whole central area pretty much.. Did a bit of work in Econ just outside of Orlando when I lived there in 88..

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion

    https://www.morningjournal.com/2024/02/28/browns-will-change-with-ken-dorsey-as-offensive-coordinator-but-play-caller-a-mystery-jeff-schudel/

    The Bills were pass-heavy with Dorsey calling plays to take advantage of Josh Allen’s passing skills. Allen threw 579 passes (No other Bills player threw a pass last season) in 2023. The Bills ran the ball 385 times — a 60-40 pass-run ratio. Five Browns quarterbacks threw 624 passes. The team ran the ball 518 times — a 55-45 pass-run ratio.

    “I think Ken sees it exactly how I see it,” Stefanski said. “You want to play through the strengths of your players. I don’t think either of us or anyone on our offensive staff believes that you have to do one thing to win, because that’s not the reality of life in the NFL.

    “You have to be multifaceted. You have to be able to pivot in a game. You have to be versatile in what you’re doing. So, we’ll do what we feel is best for our players in any specific given game, because that changes game to game as well.”

    Continuity was a strength of the coaching staff the first three years during Stefanski’s reign as head coach. Now change is viewed as a strength. The changes began last year when Jim Schwartz was hired to replace the fired Joe Woods as defensive coordinator and Bubba Ventrone was hired to replace the fired Mike Priefer as special teams coordinator.

    Now change has revamped the offensive side of the ball — new offensive coordinator, new running backs coach, new tight ends coach and a new offensive line coach.

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    Last year it was a defensive redo.  This year it's the offense.  

    You have to be multifaceted.  Yes.  If for no other reason than if one of your facets gets thwarted, you actually do have another facet to turn to.  We saw this just this very season.  We started the season where we left off previous seasons...a #1 or #2 rushing team.  But with injuries to Chubb and the Offensive Tackle positions such that we were starting #'s 5 & 6 on the depth chart....we wound up not being able to run the ball hardly at all.  Fortunately Flacco rolled into town in the nick of time to resurrect our passing attack and together with the defense, carry the team to a playoff birth.  

    You have to be multifaceted.  Yes.  But one facet does have more luster.  The passing attack is more valuable when time is of the essence.  When you need to quickly get down field for a FG attempt before the half.  Or if you fall behind...it's not like you're going to RUN yourself back into the game.  It's a passer's league.  The rules limit what a defensive back can do to a receiver.  But a running back running with the ball?  He's fair game for just about any type of hit or tackle.  

    Stef thinks that he and Dorsey think alike.  That's a good start.  Let's see what Berry and team can do in FA to get the new OC the players he needs, like was done for Schwartz last year.