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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    A third party and ranked choice voting make sense

    Which means this country will never do it

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      A third party and ranked choice voting make sense

      Which means this country will never do it

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      @mld-woody said:

      A third party and ranked choice voting make sense

      Which means this country will never do it

      No Doubt but I don't think it would be the moderate one that would hold your attention. And let's face it Republicans loved Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from the Democrat party. Democrats would probably love to see Nikki Haley as a third party to draw votes away from the Trump camp.

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        @mld-woody said:

        A third party and ranked choice voting make sense

        Which means this country will never do it

        No Doubt but I don't think it would be the moderate one that would hold your attention. And let's face it Republicans loved Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from the Democrat party. Democrats would probably love to see Nikki Haley as a third party to draw votes away from the Trump camp.

        WSS

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        @westside-steve said:

        No Doubt but I don't think it would be the moderate one that would hold your attention. And let's face it Republicans loved Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from the Democrat party. Democrats would probably love to see Nikki Haley as a third party to draw votes away from the Trump camp.

        WSS

        Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

        Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

        MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

        Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

        Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

        And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

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          @bob806 said:

          I have, quite a bit. 

          I don't have the confidence that some do about Trump. While many point out about how he's an "outsider" that's going to "drain the swamp," etc., he's not an outsider anymore. 

          Trump once again has hurt himself by saying some silly things- regarding Russia & NATO this week. That's his downfall....he doesn't listen to advisors.  He fires people on his "team" more often than Jimmy Haslam did.

          He isn't without value. His economic policies seemed great. That's where he belongs, somewhere in the dept of Commerce, maybe the cabinet post. 

          Insanity is doing the same thing, over & over and expecting a new result. That's why I'm NOT voting D or R for President. 

          I have plenty of confidence in Trump... I have ZERO confidence in Libtards putting their ego's aside to even try and work with the man...

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          I have plenty of confidence in Trump... I have ZERO confidence in Libtards putting their ego's aside to even try and work with the man...

          That's good that you do. 

          Libtards, RINOs, whomever else have to work with him too, and it's not going to work.

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            Oh, baloney, sonny. lol. A vote for Trump is the ONLY way we can END the bs corruption in our gov.

            Want me to post articles/links - about the fbi, cia, irs, doj, etc etc participating in undermining our elections, at least recently?

               Go read up on whoreta's fani and her crooked boyfriend (did you watch the hearing grilling them today?) Lies, etc. They will be relieved of their controlling the fake prosecution of Pres Trump.

               You think Trump puts fed "assets" in democrat events? NO. They are all determined to keep their power, Bob. They will destroy anyone who tries to be president and will undermine the power they crave to keep permanently.

              A third party vote is bs - democrats want a third party vote (by REPUBLICATION VOTERS) "haha" while they will vote for biden and the dems.

              It's been proven that a lot of activist dems register as reps to vote against strong candidates to screw up the rep primaries.

            After watching the fake prosecutions, the completely asinine storming of Mar-A-Largo (remember the folder with fbi/intel malfeasance in it? yeah, they frantically wanted it back.)

            the only hope for a free America is re-electing Pres Trump or someone who will also fight the corrupt deep state bureaucrats who are determined to run all of us into submission to a permanent shadow dicktatership.

            Come on, Bob. Let yourself go - think on it.

            I have, quite a bit. 

            I don't have the confidence that some do about Trump. While many point out about how he's an "outsider" that's going to "drain the swamp," etc., he's not an outsider anymore. 

            Trump once again has hurt himself by saying some silly things- regarding Russia & NATO this week. That's his downfall....he doesn't listen to advisors.  He fires people on his "team" more often than Jimmy Haslam did.

            He isn't without value. His economic policies seemed great. That's where he belongs, somewhere in the dept of Commerce, maybe the cabinet post. 

            Insanity is doing the same thing, over & over and expecting a new result. That's why I'm NOT voting D or R for President. 

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            @bob806 said:

            I have, quite a bit. 

            I don't have the confidence that some do about Trump. While many point out about how he's an "outsider" that's going to "drain the swamp," etc., he's not an outsider anymore. 

            Trump once again has hurt himself by saying some silly things- regarding Russia & NATO this week. That's his downfall....he doesn't listen to advisors.  He fires people on his "team" more often than Jimmy Haslam did.

            He isn't without value. His economic policies seemed great. That's where he belongs, somewhere in the dept of Commerce, maybe the cabinet post. 

            Insanity is doing the same thing, over & over and expecting a new result. That's why I'm NOT voting D or R for President. 

            You have. He is still an outsider, that is why they are still trying desperately to keep him off the ballot, Bob. Yes, he has said some silly things, but his statement about NATO was spot on. Some of those countries are taking advantage of us, using us as their cash cow - so lazy, irresponsible, etc. I would have answered their question the same way. They asked if we would still defend them if they refused to spend the minimum on their own defense.

            He simply said no to tell them we are not a fool anymore.

            But biden is a serious fool. America looks like a fool in the eyes of our friends and enemies.

            Domestically, Trump was absolutely correct on the border. Come on, Bob - a third party has zero chance of having the backing to get things done like CLOSE OUR BORDER, CONTROL IMMIGRATION, STOP THE "mmgw" farce play for control over every American and every business, a third party is a fanciful fake baloney sandwich. It isn't a viable choice that helps get America back on track.

               Pres Trump fired people because they were corrupt. The hard core staff of clinton/obamao deep state control ended up in his cabinet. He didn't know better.

            He does now. That is why Pres Trump is the next president, or America goes into despair, WWIII, and even worse disaster - dictatership.

              History says it with examples over centuries, Bob. Thanks to clintons, obaMao, biden.... our cia, fbi, doj, irs, etc have been politically corrupted with a vengence.  the brennans, clappers, muellers, strzoks, pages etc will be doing a lot worse to our Constittution/Bill of Rights.... no more free America.

            Don't let it happen before you believe, Bob. America is headed down a dangerously destructive road and voting third party doesn't change it's direction. Just my goofball opinion, but I think I'm right.

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              @bob806 said:

              I have, quite a bit. 

              I don't have the confidence that some do about Trump. While many point out about how he's an "outsider" that's going to "drain the swamp," etc., he's not an outsider anymore. 

              Trump once again has hurt himself by saying some silly things- regarding Russia & NATO this week. That's his downfall....he doesn't listen to advisors.  He fires people on his "team" more often than Jimmy Haslam did.

              He isn't without value. His economic policies seemed great. That's where he belongs, somewhere in the dept of Commerce, maybe the cabinet post. 

              Insanity is doing the same thing, over & over and expecting a new result. That's why I'm NOT voting D or R for President. 

              You have. He is still an outsider, that is why they are still trying desperately to keep him off the ballot, Bob. Yes, he has said some silly things, but his statement about NATO was spot on. Some of those countries are taking advantage of us, using us as their cash cow - so lazy, irresponsible, etc. I would have answered their question the same way. They asked if we would still defend them if they refused to spend the minimum on their own defense.

              He simply said no to tell them we are not a fool anymore.

              But biden is a serious fool. America looks like a fool in the eyes of our friends and enemies.

              Domestically, Trump was absolutely correct on the border. Come on, Bob - a third party has zero chance of having the backing to get things done like CLOSE OUR BORDER, CONTROL IMMIGRATION, STOP THE "mmgw" farce play for control over every American and every business, a third party is a fanciful fake baloney sandwich. It isn't a viable choice that helps get America back on track.

                 Pres Trump fired people because they were corrupt. The hard core staff of clinton/obamao deep state control ended up in his cabinet. He didn't know better.

              He does now. That is why Pres Trump is the next president, or America goes into despair, WWIII, and even worse disaster - dictatership.

                History says it with examples over centuries, Bob. Thanks to clintons, obaMao, biden.... our cia, fbi, doj, irs, etc have been politically corrupted with a vengence.  the brennans, clappers, muellers, strzoks, pages etc will be doing a lot worse to our Constittution/Bill of Rights.... no more free America.

              Don't let it happen before you believe, Bob. America is headed down a dangerously destructive road and voting third party doesn't change it's direction. Just my goofball opinion, but I think I'm right.

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              @calfoxwc said:

              You have. He is still an outsider, that is why they are still trying desperately to keep him off the ballot, Bob. Yes, he has said some silly things, but his statement about NATO was spot on. Some of those countries are taking advantage of us, using us as their cash cow - so lazy, irresponsible, etc. I would have answered their question the same way. They asked if we would still defend them if they refused to spend the minimum on their own defense.

              He simply said no to tell them we are not a fool anymore.

              But biden is a serious fool. America looks like a fool in the eyes of our friends and enemies.

              Domestically, Trump was absolutely correct on the border. Come on, Bob - a third party has zero chance of having the backing to get things done like CLOSE OUR BORDER, CONTROL IMMIGRATION, STOP THE "mmgw" farce play for control over every American and every business, a third party is a fanciful fake baloney sandwich. It isn't a viable choice that helps get America back on track.

                 Pres Trump fired people because they were corrupt. The hard core staff of clinton/obamao deep state control ended up in his cabinet. He didn't know better.

              He does now. That is why Pres Trump is the next president, or America goes into despair, WWIII, and even worse disaster - dictatership.

                History says it with examples over centuries, Bob. Thanks to clintons, obaMao, biden.... our cia, fbi, doj, irs, etc have been politically corrupted with a vengence.  the brennans, clappers, muellers, strzoks, pages etc will be doing a lot worse to our Constittution/Bill of Rights.... no more free America.

              Don't let it happen before you believe, Bob. America is headed down a dangerously destructive road and voting third party doesn't change it's direction. Just my goofball opinion, but I think I'm right.

              Exactly... There's no easy out no matter how you paint the picture

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                @westside-steve said:

                No Doubt but I don't think it would be the moderate one that would hold your attention. And let's face it Republicans loved Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from the Democrat party. Democrats would probably love to see Nikki Haley as a third party to draw votes away from the Trump camp.

                WSS

                Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

                Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

                MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

                Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

                Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

                And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

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                @mld-woody said:

                Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

                Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

                MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

                Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

                Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

                And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

                Just like you whine about people calling Joe Biden or the Deep state that controls his actions liberals. You can't think of one fucking hardcore right-wing thing that anybody associated with your personal Boogeyman MAGA.

                If and when a Conservative candidate gets voted in because of your pet voting method then you will be shitting your pants about that. What can I say. I'm about the only guy on here who has ever said he was okay with a moderate candidate. When your feet are put to the fire the only thing you can say about Joe Biden is that he's not liberal enough for you so there's that.

                Third party does not equal good bad or anything else.

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                  when woodpecker or any leftie say "moderate" they mean "rino". Everything they do and say is politically self-serving.

                  Every term is their license to change the definition to suit them.

                  woodpecker - Real Marriage is a sick thing, so they changed the definition. "right wing" is anything that doesn't fit their leftwing radical agenda. "Moderate" means who they are. "Extreme" is only conservative, never liberal. "justice" means they win politically.

                  Supporting Israel is bad, and ignoring hamas's war crimes is their "good".

                  They are always "victims" in their own feelings, because they can't get their perverted ways instilled in society to their liking.

                  There is no perversion that they will criticize, because they changed the definition of perversion to "we can't control it, so we'll screw it up"

                    The left is self-destructive, and it is taking a serous toll on America, too.

                  and the woodpecker's arrogant nonsense platitudes never end. But it makes him? FEEL like Big Bird.

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

                    Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

                    MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

                    Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

                    Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

                    And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

                    Just like you whine about people calling Joe Biden or the Deep state that controls his actions liberals. You can't think of one fucking hardcore right-wing thing that anybody associated with your personal Boogeyman MAGA.

                    If and when a Conservative candidate gets voted in because of your pet voting method then you will be shitting your pants about that. What can I say. I'm about the only guy on here who has ever said he was okay with a moderate candidate. When your feet are put to the fire the only thing you can say about Joe Biden is that he's not liberal enough for you so there's that.

                    Third party does not equal good bad or anything else.

                    WSS

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Just like you whine about people calling Joe Biden or the Deep state that controls his actions liberals. You can't think of one fucking hardcore right-wing thing that anybody associated with your personal Boogeyman MAGA.

                    If and when a Conservative candidate gets voted in because of your pet voting method then you will be shitting your pants about that. What can I say. I'm about the only guy on here who has ever said he was okay with a moderate candidate. When your feet are put to the fire the only thing you can say about Joe Biden is that he's not liberal enough for you so there's that.

                    Third party does not equal good bad or anything else.

                    WSS

                    Oh lord, here i go giving you a response... I'll regret this...

                    - if you think Biden is some hardcore leftist you're a moron

                    - can't think of one? Repealing Roe v Wade is pretty fucking conservative. Plenty of attacks on LGBTQ rights too. And no, I'm not talking sports. Or just the MAGA crowd, actual politicians, calling anyone that disagrees with them traitors and other inflammatory language. The right has gotten more right over the years. Unless you're in that forest, it is easy to see. But most of this board is in that forest and I'm not going to get them to see any trees. 

                    - no... I won't. Unlike most of this board I'm not picking my positions based on party politics. I'm picking it based on what I feel is the right answer. Ranked choice voting makes sense. And it isn't a "pet" thing. Many countries do it already. Many countries do democracy better than us, ironically enough. 

                    - when my feet are put to the fire? I have no idea what you're talking about. I voted for Biden to just punt for 4 years and hope things didn't get worse. Infrastructure bill, etc have been great, but still plenty that didn't happen (student loans). 

                    - no one said the third party automatically meant it was better. But a third party naturally breeds more competition, more collaboration. Removing the current system where power is concentrated to just two groups only helps this country long term

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      when woodpecker or any leftie say "moderate" they mean "rino". Everything they do and say is politically self-serving.

                      Every term is their license to change the definition to suit them.

                      woodpecker - Real Marriage is a sick thing, so they changed the definition. "right wing" is anything that doesn't fit their leftwing radical agenda. "Moderate" means who they are. "Extreme" is only conservative, never liberal. "justice" means they win politically.

                      Supporting Israel is bad, and ignoring hamas's war crimes is their "good".

                      They are always "victims" in their own feelings, because they can't get their perverted ways instilled in society to their liking.

                      There is no perversion that they will criticize, because they changed the definition of perversion to "we can't control it, so we'll screw it up"

                        The left is self-destructive, and it is taking a serous toll on America, too.

                      and the woodpecker's arrogant nonsense platitudes never end. But it makes him? FEEL like Big Bird.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      when woodpecker or any leftie say "moderate" they mean "rino". Everything they do and say is politically self-serving.

                      Every term is their license to change the definition to suit them.

                      woodpecker - Real Marriage is a sick thing, so they changed the definition. "right wing" is anything that doesn't fit their leftwing radical agenda. "Moderate" means who they are. "Extreme" is only conservative, never liberal. "justice" means they win politically.

                      Supporting Israel is bad, and ignoring hamas's war crimes is their "good".

                      They are always "victims" in their own feelings, because they can't get their perverted ways instilled in society to their liking.

                      There is no perversion that they will criticize, because they changed the definition of perversion to "we can't control it, so we'll screw it up"

                        The left is self-destructive, and it is taking a serous toll on America, too.

                      and the woodpecker's arrogant nonsense platitudes never end. But it makes him? FEEL like Big Bird.

                      Woodrow-Woodpecker-Mascot-Costume-953-80

                      You have become more deranged the last few days. Either your dementia is progressing or something happened in your personal life. 

                      Maybe log off for a few days 

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Just like you whine about people calling Joe Biden or the Deep state that controls his actions liberals. You can't think of one fucking hardcore right-wing thing that anybody associated with your personal Boogeyman MAGA.

                        If and when a Conservative candidate gets voted in because of your pet voting method then you will be shitting your pants about that. What can I say. I'm about the only guy on here who has ever said he was okay with a moderate candidate. When your feet are put to the fire the only thing you can say about Joe Biden is that he's not liberal enough for you so there's that.

                        Third party does not equal good bad or anything else.

                        WSS

                        Oh lord, here i go giving you a response... I'll regret this...

                        - if you think Biden is some hardcore leftist you're a moron

                        - can't think of one? Repealing Roe v Wade is pretty fucking conservative. Plenty of attacks on LGBTQ rights too. And no, I'm not talking sports. Or just the MAGA crowd, actual politicians, calling anyone that disagrees with them traitors and other inflammatory language. The right has gotten more right over the years. Unless you're in that forest, it is easy to see. But most of this board is in that forest and I'm not going to get them to see any trees. 

                        - no... I won't. Unlike most of this board I'm not picking my positions based on party politics. I'm picking it based on what I feel is the right answer. Ranked choice voting makes sense. And it isn't a "pet" thing. Many countries do it already. Many countries do democracy better than us, ironically enough. 

                        - when my feet are put to the fire? I have no idea what you're talking about. I voted for Biden to just punt for 4 years and hope things didn't get worse. Infrastructure bill, etc have been great, but still plenty that didn't happen (student loans). 

                        - no one said the third party automatically meant it was better. But a third party naturally breeds more competition, more collaboration. Removing the current system where power is concentrated to just two groups only helps this country long term

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        - no one said the third party automatically meant it was better. But a third party naturally breeds more competition, more collaboration. Removing the current system where power is concentrated to just two groups only helps this country long term

                        100% true. 

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          when woodpecker or any leftie say "moderate" they mean "rino". Everything they do and say is politically self-serving.

                          Every term is their license to change the definition to suit them.

                          woodpecker - Real Marriage is a sick thing, so they changed the definition. "right wing" is anything that doesn't fit their leftwing radical agenda. "Moderate" means who they are. "Extreme" is only conservative, never liberal. "justice" means they win politically.

                          Supporting Israel is bad, and ignoring hamas's war crimes is their "good".

                          They are always "victims" in their own feelings, because they can't get their perverted ways instilled in society to their liking.

                          There is no perversion that they will criticize, because they changed the definition of perversion to "we can't control it, so we'll screw it up"

                            The left is self-destructive, and it is taking a serous toll on America, too.

                          and the woodpecker's arrogant nonsense platitudes never end. But it makes him? FEEL like Big Bird.

                          Woodrow-Woodpecker-Mascot-Costume-953-80

                          You have become more deranged the last few days. Either your dementia is progressing or something happened in your personal life. 

                          Maybe log off for a few days 

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          You have become more deranged the last few days. Either your dementia is progressing or something happened in your personal life. 

                          Maybe log off for a few days 

                          Awww your little vagina sore again poopsie?

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            when woodpecker or any leftie say "moderate" they mean "rino". Everything they do and say is politically self-serving.

                            Every term is their license to change the definition to suit them.

                            woodpecker - Real Marriage is a sick thing, so they changed the definition. "right wing" is anything that doesn't fit their leftwing radical agenda. "Moderate" means who they are. "Extreme" is only conservative, never liberal. "justice" means they win politically.

                            Supporting Israel is bad, and ignoring hamas's war crimes is their "good".

                            They are always "victims" in their own feelings, because they can't get their perverted ways instilled in society to their liking.

                            There is no perversion that they will criticize, because they changed the definition of perversion to "we can't control it, so we'll screw it up"

                              The left is self-destructive, and it is taking a serous toll on America, too.

                            and the woodpecker's arrogant nonsense platitudes never end. But it makes him? FEEL like Big Bird.

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                            You have become more deranged the last few days. Either your dementia is progressing or something happened in your personal life. 

                            Maybe log off for a few days 

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            You have become more deranged the last few days. Either your dementia is progressing or something happened in your personal life. 

                            Maybe log off for a few days 

                            your arrogant stupid slurs make you look like a bigger ass than ccc.

                            I can back up my assertions, woodpecker.

                            https://renewamerica.com › columns › mwest › 120719

                            Liberals changing word meanings with intent to deceive - RenewAmerica

                            Almost anything is possible if one has the power to change the definition of words. Take for example the word truth. Once upon a time truth had a clear and concise meaning. Merriam-Webster's dictionary (M-WD) defines truth as "the body of true statements and propositions. Truth is the 'state of being the
                             
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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Just like you whine about people calling Joe Biden or the Deep state that controls his actions liberals. You can't think of one fucking hardcore right-wing thing that anybody associated with your personal Boogeyman MAGA.

                              If and when a Conservative candidate gets voted in because of your pet voting method then you will be shitting your pants about that. What can I say. I'm about the only guy on here who has ever said he was okay with a moderate candidate. When your feet are put to the fire the only thing you can say about Joe Biden is that he's not liberal enough for you so there's that.

                              Third party does not equal good bad or anything else.

                              WSS

                              Oh lord, here i go giving you a response... I'll regret this...

                              - if you think Biden is some hardcore leftist you're a moron

                              - can't think of one? Repealing Roe v Wade is pretty fucking conservative. Plenty of attacks on LGBTQ rights too. And no, I'm not talking sports. Or just the MAGA crowd, actual politicians, calling anyone that disagrees with them traitors and other inflammatory language. The right has gotten more right over the years. Unless you're in that forest, it is easy to see. But most of this board is in that forest and I'm not going to get them to see any trees. 

                              - no... I won't. Unlike most of this board I'm not picking my positions based on party politics. I'm picking it based on what I feel is the right answer. Ranked choice voting makes sense. And it isn't a "pet" thing. Many countries do it already. Many countries do democracy better than us, ironically enough. 

                              - when my feet are put to the fire? I have no idea what you're talking about. I voted for Biden to just punt for 4 years and hope things didn't get worse. Infrastructure bill, etc have been great, but still plenty that didn't happen (student loans). 

                              - no one said the third party automatically meant it was better. But a third party naturally breeds more competition, more collaboration. Removing the current system where power is concentrated to just two groups only helps this country long term

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Oh lord, here i go giving you a response... I'll regret this...

                              - if you think Biden is some hardcore leftist you're a moron

                              - can't think of one? Repealing Roe v Wade is pretty fucking conservative. Plenty of attacks on LGBTQ rights too. And no, I'm not talking sports. Or just the MAGA crowd, actual politicians, calling anyone that disagrees with them traitors and other inflammatory language. The right has gotten more right over the years. Unless you're in that forest, it is easy to see. But most of this board is in that forest and I'm not going to get them to see any trees. 

                              - no... I won't. Unlike most of this board I'm not picking my positions based on party politics. I'm picking it based on what I feel is the right answer. Ranked choice voting makes sense. And it isn't a "pet" thing. Many countries do it already. Many countries do democracy better than us, ironically enough. 

                              - when my feet are put to the fire? I have no idea what you're talking about. I voted for Biden to just punt for 4 years and hope things didn't get worse. Infrastructure bill, etc have been great, but still plenty that didn't happen (student loans). 

                              - no one said the third party automatically meant it was better. But a third party naturally breeds more competition, more collaboration. Removing the current system where power is concentrated to just two groups only helps this country long term

                              Not sure I've heard Trump say anything horrible about the queer community. Nor have i. I'm not a science denier though.

                              Arrow versus Wade is more democratic than you might think. People in states or communities would be able to make the choice as to whether they want abortion anytime for any reason. Some might not agree with you or me.

                              I think you're kidding yourself if you believe that other countries do democracy better than us except for the fact that we're not a democracy and were never meant to be.

                              Marjorie Taylor green and governor Noem are both young. Would you vote for them against Biden ?

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                                Progressives think anyone that doesn't think exactly like them are racist, homophobe's.  They want to erase historical landmarks because they don't fit in with their strange values.

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                                  Progressives think anyone that doesn't think exactly like them are racist, homophobe's.  They want to erase historical landmarks because they don't fit in with their strange values.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                  Progressives think anyone that doesn't think exactly like them are racist, homophobe's.  They want to erase historical landmarks because they don't fit in with their strange values.

                                  yep - they have inferiority complexes - they don't fit in with society, so they hate it.

                                  they are just too perverted and screwed up to believe in any good or great thing about America.

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    No Doubt but I don't think it would be the moderate one that would hold your attention. And let's face it Republicans loved Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from the Democrat party. Democrats would probably love to see Nikki Haley as a third party to draw votes away from the Trump camp.

                                    WSS

                                    Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

                                    Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

                                    MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

                                    Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

                                    Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

                                    And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Ok? Besides the fact we probably have different definitions of moderate I'm not sure why that matters or why you've repeated it twice now. 

                                    Sure, there are certain potential third parties that would resonate with my beliefs more, but in general just adding any third party would be a good move. Everything would naturally adjust to a Left, Middle, and Right party anyway.

                                    MAGA breaks away? They're the new right. Traditional Reps join more conservative Dems. Progressive Dems become the new left.

                                    Same thing probably ultimately happens if the progressive left breaks off first. 

                                    Or maybe we can get 4 parties? Even better

                                    And ranked choice voting would be the first step in that happening 

                                    That's why we need real education.

                                    What other countries do is irrelevant. We are not a democracy, we are a republic. You really shouldn't even have an opinion on politics until you figure that out.

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