2024 NFL Combines This Week
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
"I know that song!" - Jeff Spicoli The first sentence of the song below says it all Aggies...
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
"I know that song!" - Jeff Spicoli The first sentence of the song below says it all Aggies...
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Except maybe the person responsible for trading away our 2024 1st rounder. LOL!?
I had to edit the message I wanted you to hear while you were replying. Hit play and listen to the first sentence of the song. It'll make more sense than the name of the song.
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
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Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
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Wilson, Payton N.C. State LB30 LB 6037 233 30 1/2 9 75 3/4 4.44 4.49 4.43 1.55 1.54 34.5 9'11"
Kentucky Wild-Cat LB Trevin Wallace ? Kid had a night & looks of a ILB
PLAYER COLLEGE COMB# UC ASG POS HGT WGT ARM HAND WING 40 (1) 40 (2) 40 (O) 10 (1) 10 (2) 10 (O) 225 VJ BJ 20S 3C Barrett, Michael Michigan LB01 LB 5113 233 32 1/8 8 1/2 78 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Bertrand, JD Notre Dame LB02 LB 6007 235 30 5/8 9 3/4 74 7/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Bethune, Tatum Florida State LB03 LB 5114 229 32 3/8 10 78 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Braswell, Chris Alabama LB04 LB 6033 251 33 1/4 9 3/8 81 3/8 4.60 4.63 4.60 1.59 33.5 9'7" Casey, Aaron Indiana LB05 LB 6007 231 32 3/4 9 3/8 77 7/8 4.80 4.75 4.75 1.59 30.0 9'9" Chambers, Steele Ohio State LB06 LB 6006 226 30 1/2 9 1/4 73 5/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 33.5 9'4" Colson, Junior Michigan LB07 LB 6022 238 32 1/2 9 3/8 77 1/2 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Cooper, Edgerrin Texas A&M LB08 Y LB 6021 230 34 9 3/4 80 1/4 4.52 4.55 4.51 1.54 34.5 9'10" DeLoach, Kalen Florida State LB09 LB 5114 210 31 1/2 8 5/8 74 7/8 4.55 4.47 4.47 1.59 30.5 9'11" Duke, Khalid Kansas State LB10 LB 6032 246 32 5/8 9 1/4 74 3/8 4.80 4.81 4.79 1.62 34.0 9'9" Ohio State LB11 LB 6020 233 31 5/8 9 1/4 77 1/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 32.5 9'8" Ford, Jaylan Texas LB12 LB 6020 240 31 3/4 9 1/2 74 3/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 33.5 10'1" Gibbs, Easton Wyoming LB13 LB 6003 232 30 3/8 9 1/4 72 1/2 4.74 4.74 4.73 1.59 31.5 9'1" Gray, Cedric North Carolina LB14 LB 6014 234 32 1/2 9 78 3/8 4.66 4.64 4.64 1.59 35.5 10'0" Hopper, Ty’Ron Missouri LB15 LB 6016 231 31 3/8 8 7/8 77 3/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Hunter, Jontrey Georgia State LB16 LB 6017 236 31 3/4 9 76 7/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 32.0 9'3" Jacobs, Curtis Penn State LB17 LB 6013 241 31 1/2 10 1/4 77 3/4 4.58 4.59 4.58 1.59 35.0 10'4" Knight, Tyrice UTEP LB18 LB 6004 233 32 1/2 9 1/4 80 3/8 4.66 4.63 4.63 1.54 34.5 9'11" Liufau, Marist Notre Dame LB19 LB 6021 234 34 1/4 9 7/8 79 3/8 4.66 4.64 4.64 1.59 DNP DNP DNP DNP Magee, Jordan Temple LB20 LB 6013 228 32 8 3/4 76 4.55 4.62 4.55 1.54 35.5 10'4" Muasau, Darius UCLA LB21 LB 5117 225 31 1/2 9 1/2 74 3/4 4.72 4.70 4.70 1.59 36.5 9'9" Murphy, Gabriel UCLA LB22 LB 6023 247 30 1/2 9 1/4 75 4.69 4.68 4.68 1.59 39.5 10'3" Wisconsin LB23 LB 6000 229 32 1/8 9 3/8 78 1/4 4.94 4.92 4.91 1.63 DNP DNP DNP DNP Clemson LB24 Y LB 6000 228 31 1/2 9 1/4 74 3/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Washington LB25 LB 6030 244 33 3/8 10 5/8 N/A DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Turner, Dallas Alabama LB26 LB 6026 247 34 3/8 9 7/8 83 4.47 DNP 4.46 DNP 1.54 40.5 10'7" Washington LB27 LB 6004 236 32 7/8 9 1/4 79 5/8 4.56 4.59 4.56 1.59 39.5 10'8" Wallace, Trevin Kentucky LB28 Y LB 6011 237 32 5/8 9 1/8 79 1/9 4.52 4.55 4.51 1.62 37.5 10'7" LB29 LB 6022 233 32 7/8 9 7/8 81 4.64 4.66 4.63 1.63 31.0 9'3" Wilson, Payton N.C. State LB30 LB 6037 233 30 1/2 9 75 3/4 4.44 4.49 4.43 1.55 1.54 34.5 9'11" -
Edgerrin Cooper ran a 4.52 40 yd., 6'2 1/8" 230 lbs. Guys commenting at the combine really high on him. Afraid he is long, long gone by the time the Browns pick.
Bama's Dallas Turner 4.47
Kentucky's Wallace ties Cooper's 4.52
NCSt's Wilson 4.44
This is a fast group of LBs for sure. One of 'em needs to be in a Browns Uni.
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
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Edge/ DE
PLAYER COLLEGE COMB# UC ASG POS HGT WGT ARM HAND WING 40 (1) 40 (2) 40 (O) 10 (1) 10 (2) 10 (O) 225 VJ BJ 20S 3C Booker, Austin Kansas DL28 Y ED 6044 240 33 7/8 9 1/4 81 3/8 4.81 4.80 4.79 1.67 1.67 1.67 32.5 10'0" Byrd, Solomon USC DL29 ED 6027 255 33 5/8 9 3/4 79 7/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Ceaser, Nelson Houston DL30 ED 6026 254 33 5/8 10 1/4 79 5/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 31.0 DNP 4.57 7.30 Cole, Myles Texas Tech DL31 ED 6060 278 36 7/8 9 7/8 86 1/4 4.69 4.67 4.67 DNP 1.66 1.65 35.0 10'0" Elliss, Jonah Utah DL32 Y ED 6021 248 33 10 1/2 79 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Harrell, Jaylen Michigan DL33 ED 6036 250 33 1/4 9 3/4 81 1/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 37.0 9'10" Hunt, Jalyx DL34 ED 6036 252 34 3/8 10 82 3/4 4.64 DNP 4.64 1.60 DNP 1.60 37.5 10'8" Isaac, Adisa Penn State DL35 ED 6043 247 33 7/8 9 5/8 81 4.75 4.74 4.74 1.68 1.64 1.64 34.5 10'3" Jackson, Brennan DL36 ED 6037 264 32 3/4 9 3/4 78 3/4 4.70 4.71 4.69 1.62 1.62 1.62 33.5 9'6" Notre Dame DL37 DE 6045 239 33 3/4 10 80 1/2 4.66 DNP 4.66 1.65 DNP 1.65 34.5 10'7" Jeffcoat, Trajan Arkansas DL38 DE 6037 266 32 3/4 10 1/8 79 1/2 4.70 4.69 4.69 1.66 1.66 1.66 31.5 10'0" Johnson, Cedric Mississippi DL39 ED 6030 260 33 1/2 9 7/8 79 3/8 4.64 4.65 4.63 1.61 1.62 1.61 38.0 10'2' Kamara, Mohamed Colorado State DL40 ED 6013 248 32 3/8 8 5/8 78 1/2 4.58 4.65 4.57 1.58 1.60 1.58 34.5 10'3" DL41 ED 6030 267 34 1/2 9 1/8 83 3/8 4.76 4.75 4.75 1.66 1.66 1.66 35.5 9'11' 4.18 7.02 Latu, Laiatu UCLA DL42 ED 6046 259 32 5/8 10 1/4 78 1/4 4.64 4.65 4.64 1.62 1.62 1.62 32.0 9'8" Michigan DL43 ED 6052 257 33 1/8 10 80 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Okie-Anoma, Eyabi Charlotte DL44 ED 6044 260 33 1/2 9 1/2 79 3/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Robinson, Chop Penn State DL45 Y ED 6027 254 32 1/2 9 1/8 76 1/4 4.49 DNP 4.48 1.54 DNP 1.54 34.5 10'8" 4.25 Robinson, Darius Missouri DL46 DL 6051 285 34 1/2 10 5/8 84 3/8 4.95 5.02 4.95 1.73 1.77 1.73 35.0 9'3" Solomon, Javon Troy DL47 Y ED 6007 246 33 7/8 10 3/4 80 1/4 4.81 4.72 4.72 1.70 1.66 1.66 37.0 9'11' Thomas, Xavier Clemson DL48 ED 6022 244 32 7/8 9 1/8 78 1/4 4.63 4.64 4.62 1.65 1.66 1.65 32.5 10'0" Trice, Bralen Washington DL49 Y ED 6034 245 32 1/2 9 77 5/8 4.72 4.75 4.72 1.65 1.66 1.65 DNP DNP Ugwoegbu, David Houston DL50 ED 6037 250 33 3/4 10 1/4 80 3/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 31.5 DNP Verse, Jared Florida State DL51 Y ED 6037 254 33 1/2 9 7/8 79 1/2 4.60 4.59 4.58 1.67 1.60 1.60 35.0 10'7" 4.44 7.31 Watts, Eric Connecticut DL52 DE 6055 274 35 3/4 9 3/4 84 3/8 4.68 4.68 4.67 1.62 1.65 1.62 36.5 9'9" 4.73 7.31 IDL/ DT
PLAYER COLLEGE COMB# UC ASG POS HGT WGT ARM HAND WING 40 (1) 40 (2) 40 (O) 10 (1) 10 (2) 10 (O) 225 VJ BJ 20S 3C Carter, DeWayne Duke DL01 DT 6023 302 33 10 1/4 79 1/8 5.01 5.00 4.99 1.72 1.73 1.72 32.0 9'1" 4.75 7.95 Crumedy, Jaden DL02 DT 6037 301 33 10 1/2 77 1/2 5.00 4.98 4.97 1.69 1.71 1.69 29.5 8'9" 4.66 Davis, Tyler Clemson DL03 DT 6020 301 31 3/8 9 1/4 75 5.02 5.03 5.02 1.72 1.72 1.72 28.5 9'0" 5.00 Dorlus, Brandon Oregon DL04 DE 6030 283 33 1/4 9 3/8 80 7/8 4.85 4.91 4.85 1.68 1.70 1.68 30.5 9'3" 4.85 7.43 Eboigbe, Justin Alabama DL05 DE 6043 297 33 3/8 9 3/4 80 3/4 5.18 5.21 5.18 1.81 1.80 1.80 DNP DNP DNP DNP Fiske, Braden Florida State DL07 DT 6035 292 31 9 3/8 76 3/4 4.78 4.81 4.78 1.68 1.68 1.68 33.5 9'9" 4.37 Hall, Gabe Baylor DL08 Y DE 6060 291 34 1/2 9 1/2 83 5/8 5.06 5.04 5.03 1.73 1.72 1.72 31.5 9'7" 4.67 7.65 Hall Jr., Michael Ohio State DL09 DT 6026 290 33 1/2 10 81 1/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Harris, Marcus Auburn DL10 DT 6023 286 32 9 5/8 78 1/4 5.08 5.07 5.06 1.77 1.78 1.77 29.5 8'7" Texas A&M DL11 DT 6014 326 33 7/8 10 80 1/4 5.27 5.26 5.26 1.78 1.80 1.78 23.0 8'10" Jefferson, Jordan LSU DL12 DL 6026 313 33 1/8 9 7/8 79 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 31.0 8'8" Jenkins, Kris Michigan DL13 DT 6026 299 34 9 3/8 79 1/8 5.02 4.91 4.91 1.76 1.70 1.70 30.0 9'7" 4.78 Lee, Logan Iowa DL15 DE 6053 281 32 1/4 10 1/4 78 7/8 5.05 5.06 5.05 1.77 1.79 1.77 31.5 9'6" 4.37 7.16 Logue, Zion Georgia DL16 DE 6055 314 33 1/2 10 80 1/4 5.14 5.22 5.14 1.84 1.82 1.82 29.0 9'1" 4.92 Lovett Sr., Fabien Florida State DL17 DT 6037 314 35 1/2 10 3/8 83 1/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Murphy II, Byron Texas DL18 Y DT 6004 297 32 3/8 10 1/4 77 1/8 4.88 4.90 4.87 1.69 1.70 1.69 33.0 9'3" Murphy, Myles North Carolina DL19 DL 6040 309 33 7/8 9 3/4 79 5.21 5.25 5.20 1.82 1.82 1.82 28.5 8'10" 4.81 Newton, Jer’Zhan Illinois DL20 Y DL 6020 304 32 3/8 9 1/2 75 7/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Orhorhoro, Ruke Clemson DL21 DE 6040 294 34 9 3/8 79 1/2 4.90 4.95 4.89 1.67 1.70 1.67 32.0 9'8" Randolph Jr., Keith Illinois DL22 Y DE 6034 296 32 3/4 9 7/8 80 1/4 5.16 5.20 5.15 1.79 1.78 1.78 28.5 8'9" Rogers, Justin Auburn DL23 DT 6024 330 33 10 1/8 79 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 24.5 8'3" 4.87 Smith, Maason LSU DL24 Y DT 6051 306 35 8 1/2 84 5/8 5.04 5.02 5.01 1.76 1.75 1.75 31.0 9'0" 4.69 7.62 Sweat, T’Vondre Texas DL25 DT 6044 366 33 1/2 10 1/8 81 1/4 5.27 DNP 5.27 1.80 DNP 1.80 26.0 8'2" Taylor III, Leonard Miami DL26 Y DT 6034 303 33 7/8 9 80 5/8 5.17 5.12 5.12 1.76 1.77 1.76 30.0 9'1" 7.81 -
top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
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And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
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I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
This position fits need and BPA. As much as I hate to say this, Safety feels like an under-estimated need. It's an important position. Delpit is a great athlete; BUT when it comes to durability - he's like Jack Conklin's mini-me. Not only that, when our DC has to find ways in game plans to minimize Delpit's decision making - it tells me his mental game overrides the athleticism. An ideal Safety is supposed to be your QB of the back end - which means the decision-making has to guide the physical gifts (ie; Ed Reed, Eric Turner, Kyle Hamilton and Pollyneedsahaircut - game changers).
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that ^^ and it's a good thing they don't keep LB stats on getting off/shed a block.. ?
Great point. Piggyback - When I played OG - the toughest LBers to block were the backside LBers with good instincts (inclusive of good eye discipline). I didn't think any LBers were tough to block on the play-side when I'm the one that got to sprint out of stance into the collision.
Mike Johnson in the 80s and Pepper Johnson in the 90s were fun to watch here as were OLBs Clay Matthews in the late 70s-80s and Carl Banks in the 90s. You never saw those guys all tied up with blockers. Combines are wonderful; but instincts are what get defenders to the football first. When that happens, notice how few of them get tied up with blockers. It's even important in pass defense where I saw a guy like Teddy Bruschi beating way faster foot speeds to the football in his hook zone (in big games).
All that to emphasize this - the fitness achievements are wonderful; but it's what is on FILM that will award a Nick Bolton to the team that deserves him. Bark Mingo had ideal fitness; but he had the football instincts of a raccoon crossing the highway at night time.
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that ^^ and it's a good thing they don't keep LB stats on getting off/shed a block.. ?
Great point. Piggyback - When I played OG - the toughest LBers to block were the backside LBers with good instincts (inclusive of good eye discipline). I didn't think any LBers were tough to block on the play-side when I'm the one that got to sprint out of stance into the collision.
Mike Johnson in the 80s and Pepper Johnson in the 90s were fun to watch here as were OLBs Clay Matthews in the late 70s-80s and Carl Banks in the 90s. You never saw those guys all tied up with blockers. Combines are wonderful; but instincts are what get defenders to the football first. When that happens, notice how few of them get tied up with blockers. It's even important in pass defense where I saw a guy like Teddy Bruschi beating way faster foot speeds to the football in his hook zone (in big games).
All that to emphasize this - the fitness achievements are wonderful; but it's what is on FILM that will award a Nick Bolton to the team that deserves him. Bark Mingo had ideal fitness; but he had the football instincts of a raccoon crossing the highway at night time.
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Ryan Watts, former Buckeye - had a 4.5. Tall, long armed, on-ball DB.
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I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
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I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
That guy has BUST written all over him
I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something.
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
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