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    NFL Salary Cap next year: 255.4

    2024 Browns cap hits per player

    Current Browns total for 2024 as shown in that second link is 297.5 -- Dealing with this gap is where Berry makes his salary.

    What is actually going to happen? Even @tiamat63 would lose money making prop bets on Browns salary cap moves this offseason.

    I'm going to try to keep this thread updated with what gets us under the cap by the date with drafted rookies signed.. so the goal is about 242 for non-rookies.

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      Denzel Ward's change which is linked elsewhere makes 2028 a void year at 2.9 and converted 14.2 to signing bonus. Ward's cap hit in 2024 is now 12.1, 0.1 less than his 2023.

      NFL Cap: 255.4

      2/29 Browns : 287.7

      Current Available 2024 Salary: [255.4 - 287.7] = -32.3

      Because Browns current available cap is negative 32 million, look for every player you can name to go through this.

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        Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by
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        The NFL cap is one of the most incomprehensible things in sports, if not life. Spotrac does a great job of calculating it however. 

        https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/

        @unsympathetic your calculation seems to miss the '2023 rollover cap'

        2024 Cap Totals

        CAP TYPE BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS INCENTIVES CAP TOTAL
        2024 NFL Salary Cap $255,400,000
        2023 Rollover Cap $30,690,254
        Adjustment $0
        Adjusted Salary Cap $286,090,254
        All Contracts $156,055,627 $44,370,701 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $272,662,341
        Top 51 Contracts $152,080,627 $43,704,033 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $268,687,341
        Dead Money - $14,972,779 - - - - - $14,972,779
        Total (All) $156,055,627 $59,343,480 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $287,635,120
        Total (w/Top 51) $152,080,627 $58,676,812 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $283,660,120
        Cap Space (w/All) $-1,544,866
        Cap Space (w/Top 51) $2,430,134
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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          Good idea to have all this information in one spot!

          Thanks unsympathetic

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            NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

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              NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @syd said:

              NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

              I have zero interest in OBJ coming back, with the exception of how mad it would make Baker Bros on here. 

              That would be entertaining. ?

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                NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

                I have zero interest in OBJ coming back, with the exception of how mad it would make Baker Bros on here. 

                That would be entertaining. ?

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                @dutch-oven said:

                That would be entertaining. ?

                LOL Yes it would

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                  NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

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                  U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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                  If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread.

                  @syd said:

                  Updated rumors

                  A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP

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                    If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread.

                    @syd said:

                    Updated rumors

                    A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP

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                    @unsympathetic said:

                    If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread.

                    A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP

                    well there really is not a whole lot going on at the moment. unless you want to do a mock draft ? so calm down, as there really was not another thread to put that at. So if you would like to come up with a different thread for that sort of thing, Please by all means  do it.

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                      I'm just waiting for free agency to start. I don't imagine the Browns being super aggressive but I think they will look for o-line and linebacker. Would like them to get a deal done with Flacco. 

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                        If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread.

                        @syd said:

                        Updated rumors

                        A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                        @unsympathetic said:

                        If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread.

                        A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP

                        Today is March 8th and Free Agency starts Wednesday March 13th; but FA contracts/negotiations and discussions with teams can begin on Monday, March 11th.  I was hoping we'd have more than 1 veteran with a gigantic contract agree to defer some of their money received to another calendar year like Denzel Ward did. None of them will go broke doing so.  Right now there isn't any spending money to compete in free agency with unless some of the players step up here at the last minute.   

                        Berry did an incredible job last off season.  However, good draft drafting at rookie salary cap restrictions for 5 year contracts can sure get you a healthier salary cap.  For example, the difference between drafting Watson and being the 2nd team to pay him for the projections off of his back to back Pro Bowls and playoff appearances.  It's time for Berry to hit more home runs like JOK in the draft. Long story short, it needs to be a balanced approach between good drafting and good use of free agency.    1 year contracts don't build continuity because they are very expensive band aids that only help for a short period. It was tough typing that after the fun FA brought us last year until I remind myself how many of those guys have contracts that already expired here. This draft for the Browns doesn't begin until the back 3rd of round 2.  They gotta nail pick #54.  

                        This is just overcaffeinated nerves thinking out loud; and that kind of noise pollution might get me arrested for disturbing the piece... 

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          Browns restructured Jed Wills' contract, gain over $10 mill in cap space.  

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                            Browns restructured Jed Wills' contract, gain over $10 mill in cap space.  

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Browns restructured Jed Wills' contract, gain over $10 mill in cap space.  

                            Thanks Dutch!  Looks like the good news leaked about 2 hours after my post this morning.  We need more because the competition heats up Monday.  Here's what I just Googled up:

                            The team made one move Friday, restructuring offensive tackle Jedrick Wills' contract, according to NFL Media. The team converted $10.44 million of Wills' $14.175 million fifth-year option to a restructure bonus, according Cleveland.com, which saves that much on the cap.10 hours ago

                            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                              Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$..

                              Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list?

                              Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023

                              COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY
                              1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million     Not coaching in 2024
                              2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million
                              3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million     Not coaching in 2024
                              4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million
                              5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million
                              6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million
                              7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million
                              8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million
                              9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million     Not coaching in 2024
                              10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million    Not coaching in 2024

                              Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023?

                              COACH TEAM SALARY
                              Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million
                              Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million
                              Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million
                              Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million
                              Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million   last on HC list

                              The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager.

                              Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry.

                              Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam.

                              Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record.  5 year contract expires January of 2025 

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                                Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$..

                                Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list?

                                Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023

                                COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY
                                1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million
                                3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million
                                5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million
                                6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million
                                7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million
                                8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million
                                9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million    Not coaching in 2024

                                Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023?

                                COACH TEAM SALARY
                                Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million
                                Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million
                                Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million
                                Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million
                                Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million   last on HC list

                                The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager.

                                Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry.

                                Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam.

                                Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record.  5 year contract expires January of 2025 

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                                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                @gumby73 said:

                                Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$..

                                Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list?

                                Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023

                                COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY
                                1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million
                                3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million
                                5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million
                                6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million
                                7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million
                                8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million
                                9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million    Not coaching in 2024

                                Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023?

                                COACH TEAM SALARY
                                Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million
                                Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million
                                Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million
                                Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million
                                Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million   last on HC list

                                The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager.

                                Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry.

                                Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam.

                                Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record.  5 year contract expires January of 2025 

                                The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw.  

                                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                  @gumby73 said:

                                  Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$..

                                  Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list?

                                  Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023

                                  COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY
                                  1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                  2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million
                                  3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                  4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million
                                  5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million
                                  6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million
                                  7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million
                                  8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million
                                  9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million     Not coaching in 2024
                                  10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million    Not coaching in 2024

                                  Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023?

                                  COACH TEAM SALARY
                                  Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million
                                  Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million
                                  Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million
                                  Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million
                                  Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million   last on HC list

                                  The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager.

                                  Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry.

                                  Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam.

                                  Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record.  5 year contract expires January of 2025 

                                  The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw.  

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                                  @flugel said:

                                  The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw.  

                                  That will probably change.  I think Taylor is on his first contract as well.  Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range.  If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now.  That gives Stefanski 4 years of security.  After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    @flugel said:

                                    The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw.  

                                    That will probably change.  I think Taylor is on his first contract as well.  Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range.  If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now.  That gives Stefanski 4 years of security.  After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted.

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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    That will probably change.  I think Taylor is on his first contract as well.  Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range.  If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now.  That gives Stefanski 4 years of security.  After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted.

                                    I think so too!  

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