Mock Drafts & Draft Prospects

Dutch Oven

There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

Flugel

@dutch-oven said:

There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

Whoa! Be careful. Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy.

Dutch Oven

@flugel said:

Whoa! Be careful. Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy.

Now if the Browns could get Connor Stalions.... oh boy!

Flugel

@dutch-oven said:

Now if the Browns could get Connor Stalions.... oh boy!

Isn't that Woody or is that one of the other little Keebler Elves cheerleading in Annie's Arbor?

nickers

@flugel said:

Whoa! Be careful. Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy.

I think Patrick Queen is available and a FA.. As much as I like AW... we need a younger body back there.. I also would like to see us get even faster on the perimeter if at all possible

syd

Calvin Ridley could be the missing piece to the Browns' passing offense

hell yes, do it in a second

Flugel

@syd said:

Calvin Ridley could be the missing piece to the Browns' passing offense

hell yes, do it in a second

You bet! Or, did he bet? Hold on a second...

calfoxwc

@gumby73 said:

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T'Vondre SweatDT Texas

I love the pick, but I think he's gone in the first ten picks of the 2nd round, if not the end of the first. The big man can play, plug up the middle, collapse the pocket... that would make for a stellar dl rotation. Goal line stands? he's rated 100% against the run. I'd move up in the second round if it would work out.

Flugel

@calfoxwc said:

I love the pick, but I think he's gone in the first ten picks of the 2nd round, if not the end of the first. The big man can play, plug up the middle, collapse the pocket... that would make for a stellar dl rotation. Goal line stands? he's rated 100% against the run. I'd move up in the second round if it would work out.

Have you told our audience you don't watch college football because you have better things to do with your time? Judging by the response you got I'd say everyone is well aware of this. I can't wait to start talking about our OL and what our plan is at RG when/if someone signs Wyatt Teller. Once upon a time that kind of thing interested you. It still interests me; but what could I possibly know or understand about offensive line stuff...

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MLD Woody

4.21 Worthy is definitely before our 2nd rd pick now

Flugel

@mld-woody said:

4.21 Worthy is definitely before our 2nd rd pick now

True. Believe it or not Texas has another WR (Adonai Mitchell) that could be tempting in round 2 if still available (despite more pressing needs). He's 6'2" 205lbs and the stats below show us he scored 11 TDs while averaging 15.4 yards a catch in 2023. Aside from that he ran a 4.34 at the Combine. That didn't look like a fun tandem to try to defend.

PLAYERS	GP	REC	RECYDS	RECAVG	RECYDS/G	RECTD	LNG	100+

1	X. Worthy^WR	14	75	1,014	13.5	72.4	5	54	2
2	A. Mitchell^WR	14	55	845	15.4	60.4	11	62	3

Dutch Oven

@flugel said:

True. Believe it or not Texas has another WR (Adonai Mitchell) that could be tempting in round 2 if still available (despite more pressing needs). He's 6'2" 205lbs and the stats below show us he scored 11 TDs while averaging 15.4 yards a catch in 2023. Aside from that he ran a 4.34 at the Combine. That didn't look like a fun tandem to try to defend.

PLAYERS

GP

REC

RECYDS

RECAVG

RECYDS/G

RECTD

LNG

100+

1

X. Worthy^WR

14

75

1,014

13.5

72.4

5

54

2

2

A. Mitchell^WR

14

55

845

15.4

60.4

11

62

3

I think I'd gladly take the 6'2" 205lb WR who ran a 4.34!

gumby73

@flugel said:

That didn't look like a fun tandem to try to defend.

Those type of Texas WR's make life easy for QB's. Texas QB Quinn Ewers completed 69% of his passes. Isn't Texas where QB Arch Manning went to play?

Flugel

@gumby73 said:

Those type of Texas WR's make life easy for QB's. Texas QB Quinn Ewers completed 69% of his passes. Isn't Texas where QB Arch Manning went to play?

They sure do Gumbs! To answer your question - Texas is where Arch Manning went to watch. They're still working on the "to play" part.

Orion

@mld-woody said:

4.21 Worthy is definitely before our 2nd rd pick now

Since he had been linked to us that's the first thing I thought when I saw his 40 time. But ya know what? He's 165 lbs. We're playing tackle football here. And a knock on him is that he takes plays off when the ball is not intended to go to him. As noted in above posts, his team mate Mitchell is big and fast. I like him better for tackle football. Of course, he's got a couple of knocks too. He's a cradle catcher who struggles catching with his hands. That's a problem. Coverages are tight in the NFL. QB's many times have to throw it where you're going to have to reach for it. They can't always aim at your gut. Also, he doesn't want to put effort into run blocking. That of course, would be corrected in Cleveland...if he doesn't want to be inactive of Sundays.

Did Mitchell run The Gauntlet at the draft? Did anyone see him run it if he did? I was unable to watch the Combine.

Flugel

@orion said:

Since he had been linked to us that's the first thing I thought when I saw his 40 time. But ya know what? He's 165 lbs. We're playing tackle football here. And a knock on him is that he takes plays off when the ball is not intended to go to him. As noted in above posts, his team mate Mitchell is big and fast. I like him better for tackle football. Of course, he's got a couple of knocks too. He's a cradle catcher who struggles catching with his hands. That's a problem. Coverages are tight in the NFL. QB's many times have to throw it where you're going to have to reach for it. They can't always aim at your gut. Also, he doesn't want to put effort into run blocking. That of course, would be corrected in Cleveland...if he doesn't want to be inactive of Sundays.

Did Mitchell run The Gauntlet at the draft? Did anyone see him run it if he did? I was unable to watch the Combine.

I understand your concerns and questions after we've witnessed guys like Greg Little, Michael Jackson (this version of Thriller was catch the ones we didn't think he could and drop the easy ones), Braylon Edwards (1 Pro Bowl season that looked like none of the others with drops and concentration haunting him). I'd say Schwartz but Cleveland was the only team willing to reach on this fast guy they couldn't re-wire into a football player.

Here's a quick blurb I found when I Googled up scouting report on Adonai Mitchell. "He's not always a natural hands-catcher, but his ability to snare balls outside his frame is top-notch. His route running currently lacks focus and consistency, but agility and burst out of breaks will not be an issue. Mitchell is rugged after the catch and has the ability to become a winner on all three levels."

I don't know if that's telling me he's another Michael Jackson or someone worth betting on. He scored 11 TDs last year while averaging over 15 yards a catch. My guess is someone will take him before pick #54. Here's a clip of what he did at the combines inclusive of the running the gauntlets and drills - it will still work despite it saying video unavailable if you click on the white watch on YouTube link below.

Orion

He looks good to me Flugel. He caught it nicely in the gauntlet. Thank you muchly.

Flugel

@orion said:

He looks good to me Flugel. He caught it nicely in the gauntlet. Thank you muchly.

Yeah, me too Orion. Thanks for the feedback! We're learning about this guy together.

gumby73

This Board ran fine for years, without pinning a half dozen Topics ? (2=new members & board of champions)

? talk,

2024 (covid year) Age Guardrails w/draftee round projections

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-age-ras-guardrails-2024-draft-board-post-combine-228230451/#2380445

Green = fit Pink= don't fit

A early Updated 2024 Roster projection ?

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/updated-predicting-the-cleveland-browns-2024-roster-228144943/#2379144

Quarterback (2)
Deshaun Watson
Dorian Thompson-Robinso

Running Back (3)
Free Agent
Jerome Ford
Draft Pick
PUP - (Nick Chubb)

Wide Receiver (6)
Amari Cooper
Elijah Moore
Free Agent - few hours from post. Hello traded Jerry Jeudy !
Cedric Tillman
Draft Pick
David Bell

Tight End (3)
David Njoku
Harrison Bryant
Draft Pick

Tackle (4)
Jedrick Wills
Dawand Jones
Jack Conklin
Draft Pick

Guard (3)
Bitonio
Teller
Draft Pick

Center (2)
Ethan Pocic
Luke Wypler

Edge (5)
Myles Garrett
Za'Darius Smith
Ogbo Okoronkwo
Alex Wright
McGuire

Defensive Tackle (5)
Dalvin Tomlinson
Shelby Harris
Maurice Hurst
Free Agent
Siaki Ika

Linebacker (6)
Anthony Walker
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Sione Takitaki
Tony Fields
Matthew Adams
Draft Pick

Cornerback (6)
Denzel Ward
Martin Emerson
Greg Newsome
Cameron Mitchell
Kahlef Hailassie
Draft Pick

Safety (5)
Juan Thornhill
Grant Delpit
Ronnie Hickman
D'Anthony Bell
Draft Pick

Special Teams (3)
Dustin Hopkins
Corey Bojorquez
Charley Hughlett

Got a few, fan GM roster opinions you'd like to change?

#1. Re-sign backup QB Joe Flacco? (Trust Watson's injury bounce back in 2024?)

Got Others ?

Flugel

@gumby73 said:

This Board ran fine for years, without pinning a half dozen Topics ? (2=new members & board of champions)

? talk,

2024 (covid year) Age Guardrails w/draftee round projections

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-age-ras-guardrails-2024-draft-board-post-combine-228230451/#2380445

Green = fit Pink= don't fit

A early Updated 2024 Roster projection ?

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/updated-predicting-the-cleveland-browns-2024-roster-228144943/#2379144

Quarterback (2)
Deshaun Watson
Dorian Thompson-Robinso

Running Back (3)
Free Agent
Jerome Ford
Draft Pick
PUP - (Nick Chubb)

Wide Receiver (6)
Amari Cooper
Elijah Moore
Free Agent
Cedric Tillman
Draft Pick
David Bell

Tight End (3)
David Njoku
Harrison Bryant
Draft Pick

Tackle (4)
Jedrick Wills
Dawand Jones
Jack Conklin
Draft Pick

Guard (3)
Bitonio
Teller
Draft Pick

Center (2)
Ethan Pocic
Luke Wypler

Edge (5)
Myles Garrett
Za'Darius Smith
Ogbo Okoronkwo
Alex Wright
McGuire

Defensive Tackle (5)
Dalvin Tomlinson
Shelby Harris
Maurice Hurst
Free Agent
Siaki Ika

Linebacker (6)
Anthony Walker
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Sione Takitaki
Tony Fields
Matthew Adams
Draft Pick

Cornerback (6)
Denzel Ward
Martin Emerson
Greg Newsome
Cameron Mitchell
Kahlef Hailassie
Draft Pick

Safety (5)
Juan Thornhill
Grant Delpit
Ronnie Hickman
D'Anthony Bell
Draft Pick

Special Teams (3)
Dustin Hopkins
Corey Bojorquez
Charley Hughlett

Got a few, fan GM roster opinions you'd like to change?

#1. Re-sign backup QB Joe Flacco? (Trust Watson's injury bounce back in 2024?)

Got Others ?

This is just constructive feedback to MJP who has good intentions working on volunteer pay. I agree with Gumbs that we don't need to start pinning a bunch of threads all of a sudden. While I liked reading Braylon Edwards saved an older man's life from 2 punks - it's not something worthy of pinning. I'm speaking from the experience of posting about this team since November of 98 that my guess is people would prefer to see posts about the continuously changing roster from free agency to the draft through the regular season opener until playoffs pinned for all to see, update and post in accordance with breaking news. For example, the stuff above from Gumbs is an excellent piece to keep - just look at the quality of the post. Not only that, he started this entire thread on February 4th that I'm still interested in reading on March 9th. And why? We're interested in discussing who's gonna be the Jimmies and Joes behind the X's and O's that will ultimately determine the wins and losses.

As much as I want a great LBer teaming with JOK - I'd love to add a game changing Safety at the back end. Look at 2 teams we hate: Ed Reed, Kyle Hamilton, Pollyneedsahaircut, Carnell Lake. They've been in a lot of my nightmares. It's been a long time since we had an Eric Turner; and I would like to finally add that type of impact and presence back there.