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Martin Rucker - CUT

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

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    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

    No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags

    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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      @ballpeen said:

      I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

      No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags

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      Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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      @legacy-fan said:

      No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags

      And he will stay on the right side to help St. Claire (aka Fat Albert)

      Head or Gut?
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        @ballpeen said:

        I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

        No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        @legacy-fan said:

        No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags

        Oh well...can't say i don't have some Gator homer in me....I trust the evaluation.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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          Who said that he couldn't catch?

          look at this

          One Handed Estandia

          Head or Gut?
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            K Koa wrote on last edited by
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            Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal?

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              Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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              Just cut CB Marquis Floyd saw on Twitter

              Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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              • ballpeenB ballpeen

                I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

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                Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                @ballpeen said:

                I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen??

                Peens, first I'd like to say that I'm shocked you preferred a Gator over Rucker. Secondly, I told you every year there is a white TE that looks good in camp and gets released, regardless of admin.

                Is a pig's ass pork?
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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  I remember you saying that, and remember you saying you liked the Gator.

                  Now for my head bow.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  • K Koa

                    Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal?

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                    Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                    @koa said:

                    Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal?

                    I think he has a little more foot speed than Royal.

                    Where is Heiden?

                    Head or Gut?
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                      @koa said:

                      Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal?

                      I think he has a little more foot speed than Royal.

                      Where is Heiden?

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                      @mr.-t said:

                      I think he has a little more foot speed than Royal.

                      Where is Heiden?

                      He's coming off major huge surgery and he's getting up there, that's why I warned people all off season to not just count him in like he's a given. We need him bad because Royal is fast approaching the "I think this guy might suck pretty bad" stage.

                      But what does that say about how bad Rucker must blow? If it was a complete purge just wanting to get rid of Phillip's waste why keep him over Walker in the first place? Don't get that one, unless they just didn't like Walker much, which I don't know why.

                      Is a pig's ass pork?
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                        D DeadWombat wrote on last edited by
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                        What.... the.... HELL????

                        I really doubt Rucker was that bad. I really doubt this Estandia guy is going to be any better. I really doubt he's going to be doing anything at all.

                        What the hell is Mangina smoking? Anyone got some stats on this Estandia guy?

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                          BrownieBornNRaisedB BrownieBornNRaised wrote on last edited by
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                          http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8105/

                          heres a link two find his stats for the last two seasons with the jags

                          You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat. ~ Paul Brown I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. ~ Albert Einstein GO BROWNS
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                            BrownieBornNRaisedB BrownieBornNRaised wrote on last edited by
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                            hes not terrible, but not great either. Think they cut him just cause they had so many prospects at the TE position. Past two seasons was a back up and got little play time

                            You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat. ~ Paul Brown I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. ~ Albert Einstein GO BROWNS
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                            • PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend

                              Are you serious? This is rediculous. Kid is huge, has speed, and has hands. I question this decision, I thought he was going to start at some point. I guess Mangini prefers the Jason Witten type to the Kellen Winslow Type

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                              @playgroundlegend said:

                              Are you serious? This is rediculous. Kid is huge, has speed, and has hands. I question this decision, I thought he was going to start at some point. I guess Mangini prefers the Jason Witten type to the Kellen Winslow Type

                              They obviously want blocking TEs to make an attemp to bolster a non-existant running game that will still be non-existent instead of giving the QB another potential target that could have made a difference and i question several mangini decisions thusfar...i think mangini will rebuild the browns nicely but doesnt possess the balls or football iq to take us to the forbidden....ahhh ummmm promised land...😉

                              We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                                D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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                                As someone else said the Browns need football players with the right attitude. Doesn't matter how you look until the hitting starts

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                                  G Greythan wrote on last edited by
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                                  Well, again this is proof that those saying that Rucker = Winslow replacement were out to lunch utterly.

                                  Yes, I think trading Winslow for value based on what appears to be Mangini's confidence in the ability for us to compete this year (ie., not) was smart. That said, having Winslow would have made a difference for us regardless of who's playing QB this year.

                                  Ouch Savage.

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                                    6 feet 8 inches tall

                                    265lbs

                                    That is your answer.

                                    He's a 2nd right tackle....

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                                      R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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                                      My guess his attitude was bad and he didn't like Mangini's ways. Rebellion will not be tolerated.

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                                        Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                                        @.mz said:

                                        This one (cutting Rucker) really seems to make no sense to me, for the very reasons you listed above.

                                        Can't you just muddle through this, well, crappy season and try to develop this guy? He has to have sucked really, really hard in practice for this move to make any sense. Estandia probably isn't going to make anyone forget KWII...

                                        Agreed. He made it to 53, but then in two dismal weeks of football on Sundays (where everyone on the team probably should have been tossed), he gets axed on a Tuesday evening? And he didn't even get an opportunity to suck out loud or perform in those games. Weird, weird call.

                                        Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                                          I don't see why some people have an issue with this cut. Everyone in the league says we lack talent. We cut a guy who couldn't start for us in 2 years of developing. If we lack talent and this guy can't even start for us, then why should we be surprised Mangini brought someone else in? I say keep the housecleaning coming until we have more than 3 players that could start for any team in the league (Rogers and Edwards and Thomas).

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