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2024 Free Agent Frenzy

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  • @flugel said:

    I had a REALLY SICK feeling the Bears would get this irresponsible.  I hope they go 0-17.   They already gave the Ravens Roquan Smith midway through 2022.  

     yep sucks! not seeing the draft value these GM's are seeing either.

    We saw Fields 9 sacks coming in as a rookie QB to Cleveland 

    2 years later

    We saw Fields almost steal a game in Cleveland, we had to have last season.

    Meanwhile, a jackass donkey in Denver, pays Russ Wilson to play in the AFCN   

    It's going to be a wild AFCN division again ! 

    @gumby73 said:

     yep sucks! not seeing the draft value these GM's are seeing either.

    We saw Fields 9 sacks coming in as a rookie QB to Cleveland 

    2 years later

    We saw Fields almost steal a game in Cleveland, we had to have last season.

    Meanwhile, a jackass donkey in Denver, pays Russ Wilson to play in the AFCN   

    It's going to be a wild AFCN division again ! 

    What were the Browns thinking overrating the crap out of Crablegs? We could have gotten a way better QB in Justin without giving up nearly that much.  All this move cost Pittsburgh was a 6th round pick and maybe a 4th.  This was a grand theft from a very stupid ownership/organization in Chicago. 

    All that said, that Crablegs thread every bit as hilarious as it was outrageous so there it THAT!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Are you ok with the Steelers having so many "running quarterbacks" on your roster now? ?

    Ha, as long as the team is winning it's fine by me. Everyone saw the maturation of lamar under a good coordinator. They lost of course but he became a supremely stout qb across the board with insane wheels. I don't know how much russ is gonna be running but I love that part of fields. We shall see. I'm just glad to be rid of Matt fucking Canada lol. 

    @vagitron said:

    Ha, as long as the team is winning it's fine by me. Everyone saw the maturation of lamar under a good coordinator. They lost of course but he became a supremely stout qb across the board with insane wheels. I don't know how much russ is gonna be running but I love that part of fields. We shall see. I'm just glad to be rid of Matt fucking Canada lol. 

    I definitely get the impression that you are not a member of the Matt Canada Fanclub. ?

    I don't think either Wilson or Fields is your long-term answer, but you definitely should be in a better position with your QBs over what you've been trotting out there the last two years. 

  • Browns sign safety Rodney McLeod to another one year deal. 

  • Browns sign safety Rodney McLeod to another one year deal. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Browns sign safety Rodney McLeod to another one year deal. 

    I was looking for that deal this morning. McLeod wasn't bad back there

    Well positioned to draft.

    Added a FA, at WR,RB,QB,TE & Tackle.. Added no C's or G's, but we'll need to get younger at Guard. RB Nyheim Hines does both punt & KR.

    Defense added 2 FA LB'ers, DT, S & ST/CB it's open to a draftee taking a 2 season players spot at several backup depth positions

    not a bad FA haul by Berry, considering we started almost 18M over the new higher cap number

  • @vagitron said:

    Ha, as long as the team is winning it's fine by me. Everyone saw the maturation of lamar under a good coordinator. They lost of course but he became a supremely stout qb across the board with insane wheels. I don't know how much russ is gonna be running but I love that part of fields. We shall see. I'm just glad to be rid of Matt fucking Canada lol. 

    I definitely get the impression that you are not a member of the Matt Canada Fanclub. ?

    I don't think either Wilson or Fields is your long-term answer, but you definitely should be in a better position with your QBs over what you've been trotting out there the last two years. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I definitely get the impression that you are not a member of the Matt Canada Fanclub. ?

    I don't think either Wilson or Fields is your long-term answer, but you definitely should be in a better position with your QBs over what you've been trotting out there the last two years. 

    Oh fuck if you followed me on twitter I must have tweeted out "fire Matt Canada to the moon" every single steeler game. He was horrific. 

    I think fields absolutely can be the answer. Im still surprised the bears gave up on the dude. They built absolutely nothing around him. Now they are resetting again. Whafs to say the same shit doesn't happen to Caleb Williams? Tomlin is the perfect coach for fields and we have the weapons. I guess we are gonna find out. ?‍♂️

  • hunter renfroe ?

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    hunter renfroe ?

    @syd said:

    hunter renfroe ?

    There's the obvious Clemson connection with Watson, but aren't both Jeudy and Moore slot-type guys? 

    I'm not sure about adding yet another... If the Browns were thinking about reuniting Watson with a former Clemson teammate, perhaps Mike Williams and his imposing size might be a better complement to what we have now?

  • @syd said:

    hunter renfroe ?

    There's the obvious Clemson connection with Watson, but aren't both Jeudy and Moore slot-type guys? 

    I'm not sure about adding yet another... If the Browns were thinking about reuniting Watson with a former Clemson teammate, perhaps Mike Williams and his imposing size might be a better complement to what we have now?

    @dutch-oven said:

    There's the obvious Clemson connection with Watson, but aren't both Jeudy and Moore slot-type guys? 

    I'm not sure about adding yet another... If the Browns were thinking about reuniting Watson with a former Clemson teammate, perhaps Mike Williams and his imposing size might be a better complement to what we have now?

    love williams he was a mainstay on my fantasy teams. But his acl

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    @dutch-oven said:

    There's the obvious Clemson connection with Watson, but aren't both Jeudy and Moore slot-type guys? 

    I'm not sure about adding yet another... If the Browns were thinking about reuniting Watson with a former Clemson teammate, perhaps Mike Williams and his imposing size might be a better complement to what we have now?

    love williams he was a mainstay on my fantasy teams. But his acl

    @syd said:

    love williams he was a mainstay on my fantasy teams. But his acl

    Obviously dependent upon his recovery...

    But I like his upside and ability to complement the existing WR room better than Renfrow, who just feels redundant to me. 

  • @syd said:

    love williams he was a mainstay on my fantasy teams. But his acl

    Obviously dependent upon his recovery...

    But I like his upside and ability to complement the existing WR room better than Renfrow, who just feels redundant to me. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Obviously dependent upon his recovery...

    But I like his upside and ability to complement the existing WR room better than Renfrow, who just feels redundant to me. 

    makes sense, well off the the irish pub for some beers and whatever kinda food they have

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    @dutch-oven said:

    Obviously dependent upon his recovery...

    But I like his upside and ability to complement the existing WR room better than Renfrow, who just feels redundant to me. 

    makes sense, well off the the irish pub for some beers and whatever kinda food they have

    @syd said:

    makes sense, well off the the irish pub for some beers and whatever kinda food they have

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

  • The Browns picked up another Running Quarterback by signing Tyler Huntley to a one-year deal. He played his first four years in Baltimore as a backup to Lamar Jackson. 

  • @syd said:

    makes sense, well off the the irish pub for some beers and whatever kinda food they have

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

    @dutch-oven said:

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

    ? Don't drink and drive; but do drink and post!   Look out Nickers!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Apparently your front office thought otherwise.

    You can say I was right about him now, buddy.... ?

    He was angry about the Wilson signing. He was a baby last season when Rudolph was given the start. People with good sources confirmed it even tho he himself denied it which is why the one game he didn’t dress despite being okay to be 3rd string due to injury recovery. Apparently he was on board with competing for the job but when the team brought in Wilson he changed his tune. Frankly that was enough for me because if he’s not willing to grind for the job I don’t want him anyway. 

    @vagitron said:

    because if he’s not willing to grind for the job I don’t want him anyway. 

    whats up vag's. 

    What's your projected team draft needs this upcoming draft?

    We watched Baltimore landing studs that fell into their laps last season. Your team picks, come just before the Browns get on the clock.  and Don't take our guy ! 😉

  • @vagitron said:

    because if he’s not willing to grind for the job I don’t want him anyway. 

    whats up vag's. 

    What's your projected team draft needs this upcoming draft?

    We watched Baltimore landing studs that fell into their laps last season. Your team picks, come just before the Browns get on the clock.  and Don't take our guy ! 😉

    @gumby73 said:

    whats up vag's. 

    What's your projected team draft needs this upcoming draft?

    We watched Baltimore landing studs that fell into their laps last season. Your team picks, come just before the Browns get on the clock.  and Don't take our guy ! 😉

    Yo!

    Center and wr are now probably the top two. Corner for sure at some point too. Steelers really like odunze. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Quantity over quality.

    The world at large has been shifting to this mindset, the last decade or so it has really picked up steam.  Not just in football, but just about every aspect of life. 

     I can't stand it.    Especially when it's something I've loved and been deeply devoted to pretty much my entire life. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The world at large has been shifting to this mindset, the last decade or so it has really picked up steam.  Not just in football, but just about every aspect of life. 

     I can't stand it.    Especially when it's something I've loved and been deeply devoted to pretty much my entire life. 

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.  It started with QB's maybe 20 years ago.  There simply aren't enough quality QB's to fill the 32 starting quality openings.  Half the league is looking for starters.  When they finally get them, the half that has them now won't have them.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The world at large has been shifting to this mindset, the last decade or so it has really picked up steam.  Not just in football, but just about every aspect of life. 

     I can't stand it.    Especially when it's something I've loved and been deeply devoted to pretty much my entire life. 

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.  It started with QB's maybe 20 years ago.  There simply aren't enough quality QB's to fill the 32 starting quality openings.  Half the league is looking for starters.  When they finally get them, the half that has them now won't have them.

    @ballpeen said:

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.  It started with QB's maybe 20 years ago.  There simply aren't enough quality QB's to fill the 32 starting quality openings.  Half the league is looking for starters.  When they finally get them, the half that has them now won't have them.

     At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point.   These are the talents that you could put on any team, in any offensive system and they'd still find a way to deliver.   Even at 16 teams, you'd still have likely half looking to upgrade to find that elite, top 5 QB every season or at least paying an eye to that future. 

     My comment is more towards the game of football crossing the line from sport that gives an attachment to your soul and community, into the realm of a money driven machine where the bottom line is *all* which matters.  

     The Browns raised their season ticket prices again. Why? It's an incredibly profitable product with a dedicated fan base.   The middle class has been eroding for over 40 years.  Those who would find this game, and their connection to it, being a primary source of enjoyment, are losing that connection.  

     Fans increasingly can't afford to make the games, the die-hard identity group like so many here.  I had an email from tOSU collective about donating to NIL funds.   Fuck. That.   Your most precious resources are your time and your health.  I trade my time for money Everytime I walk into work. I'm not giving additional monies to a collective for a perfectly healthy 17 year old, with the whole world in front of them, just to have them hit the transfer portal when they don't get the playing time they think they've earned or just want more money from year 1 to 2. 

     The NCAA fucked up letting college players scrounge for years while they banked rolled.  Now?  It's all about securing "the bag" for yourself and yourself only.  I hear that about kids going to major schools, nevermind the fact that, as an 18 year old freshman having never set foot on the field, your NIL valuation will be worth more money than what over half the people in those stands make in a year who are older and have worked longer on their lives. 

     The soul of football has been poisoned.  Don't even get me started on how commercialized the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce thing was/is.   Not that I give an iota of a fuck about their relationship itself, but those Swifty eyes and their mental-illness, idol worshipping selves have made it where the NFL now has a vested interest with profit attached to it to insure that those eyes don't leave the screens.  This Superbowl was the most watched ever,  it is no small coincidence, I'm sure. 

    The bottom line, the Almighty dollar itself, has become the single most important thing above all.  It makes me sick. 

     Or as the Joker once said "All you people care about is money" 

  • That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat. Maybe for the 1965 season.  I have slept since then.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year. I suspect the same people being priced out of going to games are more or less like the people priced out of going to game when tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

  • That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat. Maybe for the 1965 season.  I have slept since then.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year. I suspect the same people being priced out of going to games are more or less like the people priced out of going to game when tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    @ballpeen said:

    That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    Yep.

    My seats went up $300 ($150 per ticket x2). $2304...of course the $4 is for "processing." I don't know how much longer I'm going to hang onto them. Thing that irritates me is my first invoice, there was no mention of a price hike....then invoice #2 a week or so ago, BAM, we need $300 more. Not cool at all. 

    Then the NFL took our free NFL games away from us on the NFL app in 2023, that was a bad move. Of course, we could have it for $59.95 yikes, if we are willing to pay. 

    It is upsetting, but the NFL knows people are going to pay. What a marketing machine the NFL is.

  • LOl...I rounded my ticket price..I didn't factor the service fee..lol

    I agree on the announcement of the ticket increase.  Seems that should have been made before the initial payment was collected. That said, I expected prices to go up so it wasn't a shock.  I hear you, I have already gone past the threshold on price I made when I first got these things 18 years ago...maybe 19.  Anyway, here I am, still buying.

    It is a marketing machine.  Heck, the Browns have a waiting list they cap at 4000 people.  It's full and people pay to get on the list.  People can't even get on the list until slots open up.  The Browns don't care all that much if people drop their seats.  They have thousands waiting in the wings who want seats.

    Maybe I shouldn't say don't care.  More in line with not being concerned with filling the seats.