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▪︎ The Denver Broncos have reportedly traded receiver Jerry Jeudy to the Cleveland Browns, for 5th, 6th rd picks.

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  • @browns149 said:

    Browns sign Jeudy to 3 year extension 

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39766129/browns-sign-wr-jerry-jeudy-3-year-58m-extension

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

  • @browns149 said:

    Browns sign Jeudy to 3 year extension 

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39766129/browns-sign-wr-jerry-jeudy-3-year-58m-extension

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

  • @dutch-oven said:

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

    @browns149 said:

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

    Sure hope so, hope he earns it.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

    @browns149 said:

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

    I suppose, but IMO he needs to be much better than Moore to justify that much money for such a so-so start to his career.

    The Jeudy extension kind of feels like a "well if we pay him like a stud player, maybe he'll be a stud player" situation, instead of a "this is a fair market deal based on your prior production" situation.

  • @browns149 said:

    He’s gotta be better then Moore

    I suppose, but IMO he needs to be much better than Moore to justify that much money for such a so-so start to his career.

    The Jeudy extension kind of feels like a "well if we pay him like a stud player, maybe he'll be a stud player" situation, instead of a "this is a fair market deal based on your prior production" situation.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I suppose, but IMO he needs to be much better than Moore to justify that much money for such a so-so start to his career.

    The Jeudy extension kind of feels like a "well if we pay him like a stud player, maybe he'll be a stud player" situation, instead of a "this is a fair market deal based on your prior production" situation.

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I suppose, but IMO he needs to be much better than Moore to justify that much money for such a so-so start to his career.

    The Jeudy extension kind of feels like a "well if we pay him like a stud player, maybe he'll be a stud player" situation, instead of a "this is a fair market deal based on your prior production" situation.

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    @runyon27 said:

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    some said that about Njoku. and that turned out well.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I suppose, but IMO he needs to be much better than Moore to justify that much money for such a so-so start to his career.

    The Jeudy extension kind of feels like a "well if we pay him like a stud player, maybe he'll be a stud player" situation, instead of a "this is a fair market deal based on your prior production" situation.

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    @runyon27 said:

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    Like, he's not had the production you'd want from a first rounder, but if he catches 50-65 balls at 14.5 yards a clip like he has, I think he's well worth the 5th and 6th rounders the Browns gave up for him.

    But not worth that much guaranteed money. But hey, it's not my money and as long as Jimmy keeps paying all these big contracts that get converted into bonuses, apparently this can go on infinitely. 

    I'd like to see Cooper extended a few years. 

  • @runyon27 said:

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    Like, he's not had the production you'd want from a first rounder, but if he catches 50-65 balls at 14.5 yards a clip like he has, I think he's well worth the 5th and 6th rounders the Browns gave up for him.

    But not worth that much guaranteed money. But hey, it's not my money and as long as Jimmy keeps paying all these big contracts that get converted into bonuses, apparently this can go on infinitely. 

    I'd like to see Cooper extended a few years. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Like, he's not had the production you'd want from a first rounder, but if he catches 50-65 balls at 14.5 yards a clip like he has, I think he's well worth the 5th and 6th rounders the Browns gave up for him.

    But not worth that much guaranteed money. But hey, it's not my money and as long as Jimmy keeps paying all these big contracts that get converted into bonuses, apparently this can go on infinitely. 

    I'd like to see Cooper extended a few years. 

    It's a insane contract for jeudy who has been supremely inconsistent. Haslam needs a leash. 

  • Jeudy's main problem the past seasons seems to have been personality issues. Overpaying him seems a sensible way of dealing with that... *cough*

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    @runyon27 said:

    I am not a fan of this deal because as you mentioned his previous history. Feels like a big overpay. Now if this was an incentive laden deal where he could make that much I would be all for. Hopefully he lives up to the contract.

    some said that about Njoku. and that turned out well.

    @syd said:

    some said that about Njoku. and that turned out well.

    Good point. Njoku grew up, I imagine Jeudy has, too. I actually like the trade, we'll see how it plays out. 

  • @browns149 said:

    Browns sign Jeudy to 3 year extension 

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39766129/browns-sign-wr-jerry-jeudy-3-year-58m-extension

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

  • 48th in yards and 2 TDs.  And we just gave him 41 mill guaranteed.  This FO amazes!!  

  • 48th in yards and 2 TDs.  And we just gave him 41 mill guaranteed.  This FO amazes!!  

    @kvoethe said:

    48th in yards and 2 TDs.  And we just gave him 41 mill guaranteed.  This FO amazes!!  

    Just think about all the guaranteed money we're all leaving on the table by not putting up numbers...

  • @syd said:

    browns restructure WR Jerry Jeudy's contract to free up $10

    Well thank the Lord for that.  That's enough gas to power one of the stadium golf carts for week!  🙂  

  • 48th in yards and 2 TDs.  And we just gave him 41 mill guaranteed.  This FO amazes!!  

    @kvoethe said:

    48th in yards and 2 TDs.  And we just gave him 41 mill guaranteed.  This FO amazes!!  

    Did you see Syd's link where they restructured Jeudy's contract to free up $10?   Not to make you feel any worse, but now they can sign someone like Anthony Schwartz for his 1st Happy Meal in Cleveland...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    $41 mill guaranteed.

    That's a bold move, Cotton. 

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

    @flugel said:

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

  • @flugel said:

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

    EDIT: Google is my friend. Dwayne Bowe-caught 5 passes for us in 2015. 1 time All-pro before we gave away money for nothin'.

  • @flugel said:

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ever since I turned 77 yesterday

    Happy Birthday!!

  •  Gone back to watch four full games (so far) of JJ so far in Denver's offense.  Actually more pleasantly surprised than what I was expecting.   He functions primarily as their Z (off ball) receiver in the Donkey's system.   The pre-snap motion man so many offenses design a lot of their chain movers around.     

     There were a couple times I could see frustration setting in, and a couple of those comments from Steve Smith hit home.  Other times? I see a capable receiver who does well at his role and, in an offense that wasn't for volume passing, had more than a couple opportunities every game to contribute further if only Wilson could have more reliably found him and delivered.  Including a gimmie TD catch and another for YAC that would have likely been 6 points.   That's just in the quarter of a season I've seen so far.    I'll have more on that later. 

     I see the potential, but I also see the downside.   

  • @flugel said:

    I think someone else said this; but I'd sure love to see some contract incentives in these guaranteed contracts.  A guy can get a soft tissue injury that gets measured by what is your pain/discomfort on a scale of 1-5?  If he's a sand-bagger - he'll milk that right out far longer than necessary IMO.  

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yeah, who was that one we got about 9 or 10 years ago that pulled that on us and barely ever caught a pass before leaving the Browns and NFL for good? Ever since I turned 77 yesterday my memory is reflective of our unnamed candidates both sides of the ball. ??️‍??

    Kenny Britt?   I called him Kenny Brat; and some guy said something like "if you don't like him you can follow someone else."  I took the greenlight and said something like: I do. I follow the players on this team that are at least trying to be professionals. 

    When it comes down to the reality only 1 of 32 teams is interested in paying you anything close to your asking price - it's not the time to be an "I before team" kind of low-life.  I think Belichick signed him shortly after thinking he could CPR a football heart in that hollow inner chest.  No luck there either.