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So how did FA set us up for the draft?

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @flugel said:

    Thanks Orion.  In Athlon Sports Draft Guide Mock Draft  they have Beebe being drafted at #48 overall. I'll check later where they have him ranked though.  Walter Football is better than Athlon Sports though.

    Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

    https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

    https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

    Am I sure?  I don't even know if we're agreeing or disagreeing; so the question is - what do you think Mr MeAggies?   

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    • T TexasAg1969

      @flugel said:

      Thanks Orion.  In Athlon Sports Draft Guide Mock Draft  they have Beebe being drafted at #48 overall. I'll check later where they have him ranked though.  Walter Football is better than Athlon Sports though.

      Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

      https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

      https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

      This Wild-cat (Zombo's edit to wilddawg still lives 😁) stuck out to me during the Combine. Looked built like a old school ILB.. falls thru cracks in many iLB rankings..

      The only site that has Wallace ranked inside it's top 100 is ESPN #87.. 

      https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/trevin-wallace-scouting-report-exploring-kentucky-lb-s-strengths-weaknesses

      NC State Payton Wilson may not fit AB's age (24) draft profile? But, Wilson looks to be the best sure tackler that can cover from this weak class  

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      • T TexasAg1969

        @flugel said:

        Thanks Orion.  In Athlon Sports Draft Guide Mock Draft  they have Beebe being drafted at #48 overall. I'll check later where they have him ranked though.  Walter Football is better than Athlon Sports though.

        Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

        https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

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        @texasag1969 said:

        Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

        https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

        I noticed you wanted me to see ILB and here's the first thing that came up. If anything, it agrees with Tia's assessment.  You can be fast but not instinctive (ie: Bark Mingo). On the other hand, you can run disappointing 40s like Ray Lewis but have instincts that put you in the HOF. Do you think 2 FF and 83 tackles in a 12-13 game season advertises the next Ray Lewis?  As for the 8 sacks, the 4 I saw on highlights endorsing him came on the blindside in formations where the OG and OT had DL lined up over their inside shoulders meaning?  There was nobody available to block the blitzer on the edge so a quick 6-3 230lb guy is going to get the freebies.  That's 1 way to reflect the point below that he's not a natural in coverage; and usually LBers that can't get to their hook zones on time struggle with the 1st step instinct. Diagnosing run or pass in the NFL is pretty important in this era.  I think if you go back and read what I wrote about him I said in fairness, it was a very quick film review (cliffs notes caliber).  He was kind of a beast with the violent run-up explosive collisions; but there were 3 different occasions where ballcarriers bounced off or were jolted back from his hits that didn't include a simultaneous wrap with the hits.  In those cases, he had to re-engage, wrap and wrestle those guys to the group without the momentum of speed into the re-do tackle effort.  You of all people know you're got Derrick Henry to stand there and wait for Cooper's re-do attempt.  As I said in my observations you didn't respond to - instinct LBers tend to be really good tacklers because they get repeatedly get themselves into ideal position under control for the form tackle with head-up accompanying a simultaneous hit and wrap.  Someone that doesn't have an ideal 1st step instinct but has Cooper's quicks/speed can fly up and make the physics induced/hard hits like Cooper.  But, that has an out of control side to it where he doesn't square up and execute solid form tackles. 

        If you watch his game against the Miami Hurricanes, where he had a Casper-the-friendly-ghost-like 3 solo tackles and 3 assists. That day he faced the type of game plans he'll see at the NFL level that will challenge his ability to get to his hook zones or flats (depending where he is in formation).  They didn't stop anything that day. I think you will agree there's some things for him to shore up.  The NFL will give him more of that than the gimme sacks from blitzes where nobody is assigned to block him.

        I think I concluded his hustle and passion jumped off the screen; but good coaching and proper film prep at the next level are definitely needed to shore up the things I spoke about.  Bad habits can be resolved but how quickly may depend on how long he got away with them.  Film doesn't always give us just the convenient truth - even for home town heroes.  ?

        1. Texas A&M image Edgerrin Cooper*, ILB, Texas A&M
        Height: 6-3. Weight: 230.
        40 Time: 4.51.
        Projected Round (2024): 1-2.

        3/16/24: Cooper impressed team sources in 2023, showing explosive speed and athleticism. They noted that while Cooper is not as natural in coverage, he is a beast in the ground game. In 2023, he totaled 83 tackles, eight sacks, two forced fumbles, zero interceptions and a pass batted.

        Cooper has excellent size for the NFL, including ideal height and length. He accepted an invitation to the East-West Shrine, but then declined to practice at the last minute. Cooper did not interview well with teams at the East-West Shrine, displaying a poor attitude and giving teams questions about whether they would want to add him to their locker room. Sources said Cooper was so-so in the combine interview.

         
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          @texasag1969 said:

          Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

          https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

          This Wild-cat (Zombo's edit to wilddawg still lives 😁) stuck out to me during the Combine. Looked built like a old school ILB.. falls thru cracks in many iLB rankings..

          The only site that has Wallace ranked inside it's top 100 is ESPN #87.. 

          https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/trevin-wallace-scouting-report-exploring-kentucky-lb-s-strengths-weaknesses

          NC State Payton Wilson may not fit AB's age (24) draft profile? But, Wilson looks to be the best sure tackler that can cover from this weak class  

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          @gumby73 said:

          This Wild-cat (Zombo's edit to wilddawg still lives 😁) stuck out to me during the Combine. Looked built like a old school ILB.. falls thru cracks in many iLB rankings..

          The only site that has Wallace ranked inside it's top 100 is ESPN #87.. 

          https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/trevin-wallace-scouting-report-exploring-kentucky-lb-s-strengths-weaknesses

          NC State Payton Wilson may not fit AB's age (24) draft profile? But, Wilson looks to be the best sure tackler that can cover from this weak class  

          Payton Wilson was 1 of the 5 guys I listed I would like us to strongly consider for our round 2 spot.  He's very good in coverage because he has the instincts to be where he's needed. He also lifted a lot of eye brows at the combines...  My only worry with him is he has had some serious injuries in the past; but I don't think they're recent enough to have too much concern with.  My guess is he'd be a 1st round prospect if it wasn't for that.

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          • T TexasAg1969

            @flugel said:

            Thanks Orion.  In Athlon Sports Draft Guide Mock Draft  they have Beebe being drafted at #48 overall. I'll check later where they have him ranked though.  Walter Football is better than Athlon Sports though.

            Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

            https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

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            @texasag1969 said:

            Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

            https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

            Seems like quite a few guys projected to be available in the rounds we'll be picking in.

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              @texasag1969 said:

              Are you sure about that Tom?  ? 

              https://walterfootball.com/draft2024ILB.php

              Am I sure?  I don't even know if we're agreeing or disagreeing; so the question is - what do you think Mr MeAggies?   

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              @flugel said:

              Am I sure?  I don't even know if we're agreeing or disagreeing; so the question is - what do you think Mr MeAggies?   

              I was pulling both your and tia's legs because you think so highly of Walter and who does he rate as the best ILB? The guy the Bucs (or one of the Texas pro teams) will take off the board. And with decent coaching he will be just fine as a pro IMO.

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                Am I sure?  I don't even know if we're agreeing or disagreeing; so the question is - what do you think Mr MeAggies?   

                I was pulling both your and tia's legs because you think so highly of Walter and who does he rate as the best ILB? The guy the Bucs (or one of the Texas pro teams) will take off the board. And with decent coaching he will be just fine as a pro IMO.

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                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                @texasag1969 said:

                I was pulling both your and tia's legs because you think so highly of Walter and who does he rate as the best ILB? The guy the Bucs (or one of the Texas pro teams) will take off the board. And with decent coaching he will be just fine as a pro IMO.

                Tell you what I got swarmed by pop up ads in that.  What I like about it in comparison to the draft mags - is they update stuff on prospects throughout the weeks/months leading up to the draft.  My draft mag was on the shelf in the stores within a week of the Combines which means it was printed and shipped before/during the Combines.  That said, the mag still has all the prospects, football skills ratings/rankings by position and overall, mock draft and more...

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                  Didn't realize we signed Devin Bush. Shame he hasn't worked out in the NFL given how great he was in college. I imagine the knee injuries didn't help. 

                  Also, I like the add of Tyler Huntley. I thought he was always solid. Could be a good battle between him and PJ for 3rd string 

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    I was pulling both your and tia's legs because you think so highly of Walter and who does he rate as the best ILB? The guy the Bucs (or one of the Texas pro teams) will take off the board. And with decent coaching he will be just fine as a pro IMO.

                    Tell you what I got swarmed by pop up ads in that.  What I like about it in comparison to the draft mags - is they update stuff on prospects throughout the weeks/months leading up to the draft.  My draft mag was on the shelf in the stores within a week of the Combines which means it was printed and shipped before/during the Combines.  That said, the mag still has all the prospects, football skills ratings/rankings by position and overall, mock draft and more...

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                    @flugel said:

                    ell you what I got swarmed by pop up ads

                    Yeah, Walter Football is really bad for that.   Download Duck Duck Go (browser) and go there using that.  Duck Duck scrubs all of that crap out for ya.

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                      @texasag1969 said:

                      I was pulling both your and tia's legs because you think so highly of Walter and who does he rate as the best ILB? The guy the Bucs (or one of the Texas pro teams) will take off the board. And with decent coaching he will be just fine as a pro IMO.

                      Tell you what I got swarmed by pop up ads in that.  What I like about it in comparison to the draft mags - is they update stuff on prospects throughout the weeks/months leading up to the draft.  My draft mag was on the shelf in the stores within a week of the Combines which means it was printed and shipped before/during the Combines.  That said, the mag still has all the prospects, football skills ratings/rankings by position and overall, mock draft and more...

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                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                      @flugel said:

                      Tell you what I got swarmed by pop up ads in that.  What I like about it in comparison to the draft mags - is they update stuff on prospects throughout the weeks/months leading up to the draft.  My draft mag was on the shelf in the stores within a week of the Combines which means it was printed and shipped before/during the Combines.  That said, the mag still has all the prospects, football skills ratings/rankings by position and overall, mock draft and more...

                      Well if we actually had a 1st rounder or high up there 2nd rounder I might be interested in buying a draft mag. But down where we start I'm going to assume we go for big uglies on one side of the ball or the other for our 1st two picks. LB is a maybe depending upon how they see Bush & Hicks fitting in. Right now they list as starters in the depth chart according to ourlads.

                      https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CLE

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