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      I think that more players would be happier to come to Cleveland if they knew that they wouldn't have to be playing outside in the $hitty Cleveland winter-type weather.  

      Does Cleveland ever want to host a super bowl?   Without a dome they aren't getting one.  (Cleveland is NOT New York)

      And just think, if / when the team gets really bad again, you'll be able to sell your late season tickets for more money.  🙂  

      - Never forget, the New Orleans domed Saints came to Cleveland a couple of Decembers ago with a crippled offense and had to run the wild cat quite often...in one of the ten coldest games ever....and beat us because the ball slid right through the frozen hands of Njoku and Peoples-Jones in the end zone.  And ANOTHER TD didn't happen because as Njoku was about to catch the TD pass he slipped on the frozen field and fell on his ass.   $hitty weather is not a home field advantage. 

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        I think a dome is what will happen, and season ticket holders will be gouged on PSLs. 

        There was talk years ago about putting a stadium on the post office land downtown (Orange Ave.). I have no idea if that's still even possible. The City of Cle will do whatever they can to keep them there IMHO.

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          @neo said:

          Get with the times and build a dome, or at least a retractable roof. Something like Arizona where they have a natural grass field that moves. 

          I think a $2 billion dome might be wishful thinking from the Haslams, even if I totally understand fiscally why that makes long-term sense. 

          A retractable dome might be a complete pipedream then. 

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          @dutch-oven said:

          I think a $2 billion dome might be wishful thinking from the Haslams, even if I totally understand fiscally why that makes long-term sense. 

          A retractable dome might be a complete pipedream then. 

          I'm with you there.

          SoFi in LA cost around $5B to build.

          Allegiant in Las Vegas cost around $2B and that would have been pre-COVID pricing. 

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            I think a dome is what will happen, and season ticket holders will be gouged on PSLs. 

            There was talk years ago about putting a stadium on the post office land downtown (Orange Ave.). I have no idea if that's still even possible. The City of Cle will do whatever they can to keep them there IMHO.

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            @bob806 said:

            I think a dome is what will happen, and season ticket holders will be gouged on PSLs. 

            There was talk years ago about putting a stadium on the post office land downtown (Orange Ave.). I have no idea if that's still even possible. The City of Cle will do whatever they can to keep them there IMHO.

            I saw a couple stories about how longtime Buffalo Bills season ticket holders have seen their prices skyrocket with the new stadium coming... 

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              I think that more players would be happier to come to Cleveland if they knew that they wouldn't have to be playing outside in the $hitty Cleveland winter-type weather.  

              Does Cleveland ever want to host a super bowl?   Without a dome they aren't getting one.  (Cleveland is NOT New York)

              And just think, if / when the team gets really bad again, you'll be able to sell your late season tickets for more money.  🙂  

              - Never forget, the New Orleans domed Saints came to Cleveland a couple of Decembers ago with a crippled offense and had to run the wild cat quite often...in one of the ten coldest games ever....and beat us because the ball slid right through the frozen hands of Njoku and Peoples-Jones in the end zone.  And ANOTHER TD didn't happen because as Njoku was about to catch the TD pass he slipped on the frozen field and fell on his ass.   $hitty weather is not a home field advantage. 

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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              @orion said:

              I think that more players would be happier to come to Cleveland if they knew that they wouldn't have to be playing outside in the $hitty Cleveland winter-type weather.  

              Does Cleveland ever want to host a super bowl?   Without a dome they aren't getting one.  (Cleveland is NOT New York)

              And just think, if / when the team gets really bad again, you'll be able to sell your late season tickets for more money.  🙂  

              - Never forget, the New Orleans domed Saints came to Cleveland a couple of Decembers ago with a crippled offense and had to run the wild cat quite often...in one of the ten coldest games ever....and beat us because the ball slid right through the frozen hands of Njoku and Peoples-Jones in the end zone.  And ANOTHER TD didn't happen because as Njoku was about to catch the TD pass he slipped on the frozen field and fell on his ass.   $hitty weather is not a home field advantage. 

              Super Bowls, huge concerts year round, Final Fours, NCAA football playoff games, possibly the Big Ten Championship if it could ever be wrestled from Indianapolis' grip, etc...

              Hell, the Raiders came from sunny California and beat the Browns in minus 30 degree January Cleveland weather back in January '81. 

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                @bob806 said:

                I think a dome is what will happen, and season ticket holders will be gouged on PSLs. 

                There was talk years ago about putting a stadium on the post office land downtown (Orange Ave.). I have no idea if that's still even possible. The City of Cle will do whatever they can to keep them there IMHO.

                I saw a couple stories about how longtime Buffalo Bills season ticket holders have seen their prices skyrocket with the new stadium coming... 

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                @dutch-oven said:

                I saw a couple stories about how longtime Buffalo Bills season ticket holders have seen their prices skyrocket with the new stadium coming... 

                Not only that, they scrapped a "seniority" method on first dibs. They give the season ticket holders who have the pricier seats preference. People who have had season tickets in Buffalo since the 60s are understandably upset.

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                  And recently the NFL Commish Office Staff were seen celebrating all this.  ?

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    Absolutely a dome

                    Absolutely get it off of the lake (and Bourke while you're at it)

                    I wish we'd build the stadium near where they're building the new Cleveland Clinic / Cavs training and health center. 

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                      Absolutely a dome

                      Absolutely get it off of the lake (and Bourke while you're at it)

                      I wish we'd build the stadium near where they're building the new Cleveland Clinic / Cavs training and health center. 

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      I wish we'd build the stadium near where they're building the new Cleveland Clinic / Cavs training and health center. 

                      Down in the Flats?

                      I couldn't even imagine how they would shoehorn a 65,000+ seat dome down there, unless there's an area I'm not thinking of? 

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                        @dutch-oven said:

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                          DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                          It'll be built at the old Ford Plant site in Brookpark, right next to the Airport.  They already purchased the land.

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                            It'll be built at the old Ford Plant site in Brookpark, right next to the Airport.  They already purchased the land.

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                            @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                            It'll be built at the old Ford Plant site in Brookpark, right next to the Airport.  They already purchased the land.

                            I didn't realize that the purchase was finalized.  It's not a bad thing that the Browns owner has more ties to the area.  

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                I wish we'd build the stadium near where they're building the new Cleveland Clinic / Cavs training and health center. 

                                Down in the Flats?

                                I couldn't even imagine how they would shoehorn a 65,000+ seat dome down there, unless there's an area I'm not thinking of? 

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Down in the Flats?

                                I couldn't even imagine how they would shoehorn a 65,000+ seat dome down there, unless there's an area I'm not thinking of? 

                                No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  Down in the Flats?

                                  I couldn't even imagine how they would shoehorn a 65,000+ seat dome down there, unless there's an area I'm not thinking of? 

                                  No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

                                  Oh, where allegedly the Browns were offered a spot during the Gateway time period. 

                                  There still was talk of a stadium going there, where the huge post office building is. 

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

                                    Oh, where allegedly the Browns were offered a spot during the Gateway time period. 

                                    There still was talk of a stadium going there, where the huge post office building is. 

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Oh, where allegedly the Browns were offered a spot during the Gateway time period. 

                                    There still was talk of a stadium going there, where the huge post office building is. 

                                    I'd like it to still be "downtown" just not on the lake

                                    But, if it is going in the burbz, there are probably some properties over there worth snatching up and sitting on

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                                      Apparently Art did the same thing prior to attempt to negotiate with the city of Cleveland...

                                      https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/03/haslams-could-buy-brook-park-land-for-a-stadium-art-modell-did-the-same-thing-50-years-ago.html

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                                        The only logical answer is to go dome in Brookpark.

                                        There are sentimental reasons to stay downtown, but sentimental reason usually makes for poor business decisions.  There are multiple reasons why the move should be made over staying put and going with the band-aide approach.

                                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Down in the Flats?

                                          I couldn't even imagine how they would shoehorn a 65,000+ seat dome down there, unless there's an area I'm not thinking of? 

                                          No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          No, not the flats. Just south of downtown. Below rocker mortgage and progressive 

                                          I thought of that property, but there are still ingress and egress issues.  It also doesn't have enough room to do some of the things Haslam wants.

                                          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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