Mock Drafts & Draft Prospects
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2. Luke McCaffrey, WR, Rice
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"His dad played 13 years in the NFL" should not get someone drafted. Same for "his grandpa was an Olympic sprinter," "his mom played soccer at Stanford" and "his brother is Christian McCaffrey."
But it's worth paying attention to Luke McCaffrey.
As part of the 2019 class, he enrolled at Nebraska as a quarterback. McCaffrey transferred to Rice in 2021, shifted to wide receiver in 2022 and caught 58 passes for 723 yards and six scores. Last year, he piled up 71 receptions for 992 yards and 13 touchdowns.
McCaffrey then ran a 4.46-second 40 at the combine. He also posted the fastest shuttle run and second-best three-cone time among receivers.
McCaffrey is only 185th on the latest B/R big board, which is understandable. He's a recent convert to the position and put up those numbers opposite mostly AAC competition. Still, he's clearly worth a late-round flier.
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NFL draft: List of Browns official visits, meetings with draft prospects based
As expected - trench heavy.
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NFL draft: List of Browns official visits, meetings with draft prospects based
As expected - trench heavy.
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Not to bogard the thread, obviously I'm proud of the work you guys are putting in here. Good discussion and sharing of mutual knowledge and passion. It's an extra busy time for me, which sucks because you boys know this is my element.
That said, looking at setting up a community film review. Straight forward, I host, you join, I share my screen(s) and we eval a particular player. I'm looking at LB names and this Jaylon Ford kid from Texas has been mentioned several times.
We'll take a clean look, find a couple game cutups and breakdown plays.
How does that work for you guys? Friday night - probably 6:45p-ish?
Thanks! That might work Friday. I'll let you know later in the week.
Thanks! That might work Friday. I'll let you know later in the week.
I'll be on tonight, for Flugs and whomever else might want to join. Around 8:15pm EST.
Again, doesn't require anything special on the end of anyone else. I host, share my screen, we all watch along and give our critique and thoughts. Jaylan Ford is on deck tonight and we'll all be going in with a fresh template. Or, at least, I will. I've never really watched him before.
Link to the discord channel.
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NFL draft: List of Browns official visits, meetings with draft prospects based
As expected - trench heavy.
As expected - trench heavy.
Yep. Exactly what I expected now that we signed some LBs.
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Thanks! That might work Friday. I'll let you know later in the week.
I'll be on tonight, for Flugs and whomever else might want to join. Around 8:15pm EST.
Again, doesn't require anything special on the end of anyone else. I host, share my screen, we all watch along and give our critique and thoughts. Jaylan Ford is on deck tonight and we'll all be going in with a fresh template. Or, at least, I will. I've never really watched him before.
Link to the discord channel.
I'll be on tonight, for Flugs and whomever else might want to join. Around 8:15pm EST.
Again, doesn't require anything special on the end of anyone else. I host, share my screen, we all watch along and give our critique and thoughts. Jaylan Ford is on deck tonight and we'll all be going in with a fresh template. Or, at least, I will. I've never really watched him before.
Link to the discord channel.
Thanks for setting that up and watching that with me T! I wish I could say Jaylan Ford gave us something exciting to watch. I overrated the crap out of him from things I read in 2 Draft Magazines . Having said that, Lindy's Magazine has him as a 4th-5th round projection which seems more accurate than Athlon's 3rd round projection. The stats looked good in the mag but we watched the matchup of their win against Alabama; and he didn't live up to what I was expecting at all. Then we watched some of the matchup of their loss against Oklahoma and it was more of the same. I really WANTED to see guy that was good against the pass because we really need a MLB/ILB that can do that while JOK does his thing at OLB.
Cedric Gray, Payton Wilson and Jeremiah Trotter are higher rated ILBers in Lindy's. They also have Colson listed as an OLB but could play inside. The concerns about Wilson are 2 ACL injuries: 1 from 2017 (high school) and tore it again in June of 2018. He's also had both shoulders injured and surgically repaired in college. All that being the case before the 2023 season, guess what he did in only 12 games in 2023? He had 138 tackles, 17.5 Tackles for loss, 6 sacks, 10 QB hits, 3 INTs, 6 pass breakups, 1 forced fumble, 2 fumble recoveries. Then he lit it up at the combines in his 6-4 238lbs frame. It'll be interesting to see who is left when we're drafting. Yeah, we signed 2 LBers but one is from the Philly defense had considerable trouble defending short passes in the hook zones. The other LBer (Bush) had a major injury in Pittsburgh that he never really recovered well enough from to live up to their expectation. LBer is still a need IMO.
I think we're looking at drafting these needs in random order: WR, OL, LB, DL, CB. While Safety isn't a pressing need - we've seen Ed Reed, Pollyneedsahaircut and now Kyle Hamilton reminding us how that position can be a game changer if you have the right guy back there. And we all know Denzel usually misses games to injury, which could get complicated in a hurry if we lose anyone else. Going to an all you can eat buffet on a diet (only 5 draft picks) can be a big tease...
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I'll be on tonight, for Flugs and whomever else might want to join. Around 8:15pm EST.
Again, doesn't require anything special on the end of anyone else. I host, share my screen, we all watch along and give our critique and thoughts. Jaylan Ford is on deck tonight and we'll all be going in with a fresh template. Or, at least, I will. I've never really watched him before.
Link to the discord channel.
Thanks for setting that up and watching that with me T! I wish I could say Jaylan Ford gave us something exciting to watch. I overrated the crap out of him from things I read in 2 Draft Magazines . Having said that, Lindy's Magazine has him as a 4th-5th round projection which seems more accurate than Athlon's 3rd round projection. The stats looked good in the mag but we watched the matchup of their win against Alabama; and he didn't live up to what I was expecting at all. Then we watched some of the matchup of their loss against Oklahoma and it was more of the same. I really WANTED to see guy that was good against the pass because we really need a MLB/ILB that can do that while JOK does his thing at OLB.
Cedric Gray, Payton Wilson and Jeremiah Trotter are higher rated ILBers in Lindy's. They also have Colson listed as an OLB but could play inside. The concerns about Wilson are 2 ACL injuries: 1 from 2017 (high school) and tore it again in June of 2018. He's also had both shoulders injured and surgically repaired in college. All that being the case before the 2023 season, guess what he did in only 12 games in 2023? He had 138 tackles, 17.5 Tackles for loss, 6 sacks, 10 QB hits, 3 INTs, 6 pass breakups, 1 forced fumble, 2 fumble recoveries. Then he lit it up at the combines in his 6-4 238lbs frame. It'll be interesting to see who is left when we're drafting. Yeah, we signed 2 LBers but one is from the Philly defense had considerable trouble defending short passes in the hook zones. The other LBer (Bush) had a major injury in Pittsburgh that he never really recovered well enough from to live up to their expectation. LBer is still a need IMO.
I think we're looking at drafting these needs in random order: WR, OL, LB, DL, CB. While Safety isn't a pressing need - we've seen Ed Reed, Pollyneedsahaircut and now Kyle Hamilton reminding us how that position can be a game changer if you have the right guy back there. And we all know Denzel usually misses games to injury, which could get complicated in a hurry if we lose anyone else. Going to an all you can eat buffet on a diet (only 5 draft picks) can be a big tease...
Thanks for setting that up and watching that with me T! I wish I could say Jaylan Ford gave us something exciting to watch. I overrated the crap out of him from things I read in 2 Draft Magazines .
All good, buddy. I like generating my own knowledge and doing those watches, learned quite a bit. Not only about Jaylan but the Texas defense as a whole.
Having said that, Lindy's Magazine has him as a 4th-5th round projection which seems more accurate than Athlon's 3rd round projection.
4th-5th feels right. But it's a weak LB class, he might be bumped up just based on that alone.
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All the players that are pending free agents, after the 2024 season have been removed from this chart. This gives us a indication of position rooms where they have the most need to draft someone and prepare for the future.
The best teams in the NFL will draft a year in advance so they aren't relying on a rookie to be a role player, give them a year in the system to develop.
1.) Add Jerry Jeudy to WR's
2.) All other players have expiring contracts or on 1 year expiring contracts after 2024. Except listed
3.) Key contracts would fall on Chubb/ Cooper/ Newsome/ Wills & JOK
Browns could Draft BPA in many positions
All the players that are pending free agents, after the 2024 season have been removed from this chart. This gives us a indication of position rooms where they have the most need to draft someone and prepare for the future.
The best teams in the NFL will draft a year in advance so they aren't relying on a rookie to be a role player, give them a year in the system to develop.
1.) Add Jerry Jeudy to WR's
2.) All other players have expiring contracts or on 1 year expiring contracts after 2024. Except listed
3.) Key contracts would fall on Chubb/ Cooper/ Newsome/ Wills & JOK
Browns could Draft BPA in many positions
I agree. I think we will be drafting more for next year than this year. Whoever we draft probably isn't playing a whole lot but might in 2025.
Berry isn't addressing needs this year with drafted or signed rookies. He fills them with vets on 1-2 year deals. He seems to be drafting for future needs giving the rooks a year to learn the NFL and team system.
We are finally at a point where it should be. If you are expecting a rookie to immediately fill a key role you are just gambling.
That isn't a healthy place to be.
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3 full games in of All-22 re: Colson. I'm hot and cold, which best describes his game.
Solid size, good enough athlete, surprisingly better in coverage than I expected. Really understood where to leverage himself in his assignments and zones vis a vis the coverage call and how he read things. Good feel for helping to minimize those 'grey' areas.
Downside? His inconsistency in the running game. When you talk about wanting a compliment to JOK, you mean that guy in the middle who takes on leads, or sheds and gets hands on ball carriers where young JOK can clean things up (fill/force) That's where he lacks. Despite my praise of his coverage, I saw UM take him off the field in nickel and dime situations pretty frequently in favor of #23... whomever that is, pretty often. Which was sort of a shocker if that's your defensive heartbeat along the front 7.
I digress, I don't see the compliment I believe you're looking for. His processing hot and cold was against QB centric running games and also not against them. Sideline to sideline he moves well, decent enough tackling form but can lose that when pressing a clear gap, breaking down and attacking a QB or RB. You don't see much of that 'enforcer', and he has a ton of assist tackles on his resume'.
Overall, I just go full 'meh' with this LB class so far. Rankings have Colson anywhere between the 4th and 8th best at his position, which makes him a *late* day 2 pick. More comfortably for my tastes an early day 3 pick.
RE: JJ McCarthy. Holy fuck, I really never sat down to watch the passing structure of the UM air game, but it was pretty simple and straight forward. A handful of concepts they used ranging from Y-pop RPO's, classic mesh, then misdirection setups to attack the perimeter. But nothing complex. Have to credit the Oline and the running game for being the engine behind that car. The Bama game was rather standout to me, because the overwhelming majority of what I saw was a QB being setup for 1a and 1b being his legs. Simple motions against Saban's well understood coverage designs, the biggest being against the single high, were what they found the most success with. Not a volume shooter, and when a couple of the downfield developing shots that you would consider the NFL throws were there, they weren't taken. Questionable ball placement and timing at the numbers and odd breaking routes. When he throws errant, he tends to miss high... which is about the worst you can do when throwing. His footwork in comparison to his follow through needs to be cleaned up SO much, which is the cause of a lot of his inaccuracies.
You hear about the work ethic, and that's great. Hard work and leadership are appreciated. But there have been hundreds of QB in the last decade that have come and gone, most for a cup of coffee, that are hardworking and have "leadership". If those are the first two traits and the one's you talk about most when discussing a signal caller, then you're going backwards in your eval and leaning on the cliche's for your foundation.
JJ is physically capable and has decent size for the QB spot. But at his current floor, he needs a ton of development. A floor that, in no way, justifies a 1st round pick at this moment. If the market values him as such, then like a stock, I'm going to put money on shorting it because this particular stock *should* drop, if it isn't being artificially inflated.
edit: There is a kid from Bama, Justin Eboigbe, IDL... that has caught a bit of my eye. Plays primarily a 4/4i tech in Bama's odd fronts and some 5tech. Looks really out of place doing it for what they ask of him. Does some two gapping and such at times. Gives the feel of a kid who could thrive in Schwartz' systems.
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Browns mock drafts: Data from simulator identifies trends
Makes sense... it has DTackle, OTackle, Linebacker and Wide Receiver as our top needs, and that tracks with what we all seem to be focusing on overall.
Less than two weeks away!
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Has anyone actually watched Payton Wilson, out of curiosity? Highlight videos don't count...
I've yet to, so I'm asking an honest question.
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Has anyone actually watched Payton Wilson, out of curiosity? Highlight videos don't count...
I've yet to, so I'm asking an honest question.
Has anyone actually watched Payton Wilson, out of curiosity? Highlight videos don't count...
I've yet to, so I'm asking an honest question.
It's funny you ask this, because after you shot down my Junior Colson love like some random girl at a Kent bar 20 years ago, I was going to ask you about this guy as a possible option.
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Has anyone actually watched Payton Wilson, out of curiosity? Highlight videos don't count...
I've yet to, so I'm asking an honest question.
It's funny you ask this, because after you shot down my Junior Colson love like some random girl at a Kent bar 20 years ago, I was going to ask you about this guy as a possible option.
It's funny you ask this, because after you shot down my Junior Colson love like some random girl at a Kent bar 20 years ago, I was going to ask you about this guy as a possible option.
I have a little time before dinner, so I'll be in the machine shop doing some film work on him. There's several cutups of him on YT, the first one against UConn. I'll start there.
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