A Look Back at Botched Browns Drafts (1999-2009)
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2001 was by far the worst. The team needed a running back and LT was there. Warren had serious character issues and questions about his work ethic. Also drafted in the first, Probowlers Marcus Stroud and Richard Seymour.
1999 was bad because we had no front office and no scouting. Even if we had taken advantage of Ditka with the Ricky Williams deal we would have whiffed on every pick.
It's too early to tell about 2009. We have potentially 5-6 guys from the draft who could play here for a long time since there's no talent to challenge them.
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2001 was by far the worst. The team needed a running back and LT was there. Warren had serious character issues and questions about his work ethic. Also drafted in the first, Probowlers Marcus Stroud and Richard Seymour.
1999 was bad because we had no front office and no scouting. Even if we had taken advantage of Ditka with the Ricky Williams deal we would have whiffed on every pick.
It's too early to tell about 2009. We have potentially 5-6 guys from the draft who could play here for a long time since there's no talent to challenge them.
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Here's all of Savage's draft picks, can we say we had 4 bad years?
2008 (Round Player College)
4 Beau Bell UNLV Total turd
4 Martin Rucker Missouri Total turd
6 Ahtyba Rubin Iowa State
6 Paul Hubbard Wisconsin Total turd
7 Alex Hall St. Augustine’s
2007
1 Joe Thomas Wisconsin
1 Brady Quinn Notre Dame
2 Eric Wright Nevada-Las Vegas
5 Brandon McDonald Memphis
6 Melila Purcell Hawaii Total turd
7 Chase Pittman Louisiana State Total turd
7 Syndric Steptoe Arizona Total turd
2006
1 Kamerion Wimbley Florida State
2 D’Qwell Jackson Maryland
3 Travis Wilson Oklahoma Total turd
4 Leon Williams Miami (FL) Turd
4 Isaac Sowells Indiana Turd
5 Jerome Harrison Washington State
5 DeMario Minter Georgia Total turd
6 Lawrence Vickers Colorado
6 Babatunde Oshinowo Stanford Total turd
7 Justin Hamilton Virginia Tech Turd
2005
1 Braylon Edwards Michigan
2 Brodney Pool Oklahoma
3 Charlie Frye Akron Large turd
4 Antonio Perkins Oklahoma Total turd
5 David McMillan Kansas Total turd
6 Nick Speegle New Mexico Total turd
6 Andrew Hoffman Virginia Total turd
7 Jon Dunn Virginia Tech Total turd
That's an 18 to 27 total turd ratio or TWO OUT OF THREE DRAFT PICKS BEING TURDS!
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It's impossible for me to pick a loser- sort of trying to say which turd stinks worse. But it's no wonder the Browns have been in the toilet for the last 10 years with drafts like that.
If you twist my arm, I'd have to pick '04, not only did they whiff on Ben, trading up to pick KW (giving away a second rounder in the process) to draft a guy the Lions weren't going to take anyway, was beyond stupid.
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Yeah, but from my perspective the draft is a crap shoot. You never know who is really going to pan out. Any one of these guys could get hurt in their first game and they're a bust. They could have been the best out there ever, but no one will ever know it.
The impact of ONE player on a team of 53 is dependent on too many variables to assume that ONE draft pick is going to signficantly impact your team as a whole. They fill a role and they may do it well or they may do it just enough to get by...no one knows these things on draft day.
Personally, I think we did really well in our draft this year. With a new coach and last minute deals to at least get us SOMETHING out of the draft. It's going to take time for Mack to develop but I have no doubt he will. I see a lot of potential in Coye Francies, and Robo and MoMass...but it takes time for these guys to make an adjustment from college to NFL.
IMO, we can talk about how successful this draft was in two years.
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Yeah, but from my perspective the draft is a crap shoot. You never know who is really going to pan out. Any one of these guys could get hurt in their first game and they're a bust. They could have been the best out there ever, but no one will ever know it.
The impact of ONE player on a team of 53 is dependent on too many variables to assume that ONE draft pick is going to signficantly impact your team as a whole. They fill a role and they may do it well or they may do it just enough to get by...no one knows these things on draft day.
Personally, I think we did really well in our draft this year. With a new coach and last minute deals to at least get us SOMETHING out of the draft. It's going to take time for Mack to develop but I have no doubt he will. I see a lot of potential in Coye Francies, and Robo and MoMass...but it takes time for these guys to make an adjustment from college to NFL.
IMO, we can talk about how successful this draft was in two years.
Yeah, but from my perspective the draft is a crap shoot. You never know who is really going to pan out. Any one of these guys could get hurt in their first game and they're a bust. They could have been the best out there ever, but no one will ever know it.
The impact of ONE player on a team of 53 is dependent on too many variables to assume that ONE draft pick is going to signficantly impact your team as a whole. They fill a role and they may do it well or they may do it just enough to get by...no one knows these things on draft day.
Personally, I think we did really well in our draft this year. With a new coach and last minute deals to at least get us SOMETHING out of the draft. It's going to take time for Mack to develop but I have no doubt he will. I see a lot of potential in Coye Francies, and Robo and MoMass...but it takes time for these guys to make an adjustment from college to NFL.
IMO, we can talk about how successful this draft was in two years.
Anyone know what Robo was chilling in his street clothes last sun?
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Only that he was listed as 'inactive'...as far as I can tell he's not injured. Who knows what the coach is thinking?
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Any team in the league can look back at a draft and say ...man we "should have" taken this other guy... Hindsight is 20/20... Every year we look at our drafts and say ...hey this looks like a good draft"..these guys will help us.. Hindsight is 20/20 this is meaningless. Look forward..the past is gone... I think this can be one of our best drafts in decades...
However, I may look back in 5 years and say this was one of the worst drafts ever... You just don't know... FUTURE my friends FUTURE.. Looking to the past is just like picking an old scab.. you just prolong the bleeding and it never quite heals right... Don't pick it..let it heal and after a while it's forgotten.
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Any team in the league can look back at a draft and say ...man we "should have" taken this other guy... Hindsight is 20/20... Every year we look at our drafts and say ...hey this looks like a good draft"..these guys will help us.. Hindsight is 20/20 this is meaningless. Look forward..the past is gone... I think this can be one of our best drafts in decades...
However, I may look back in 5 years and say this was one of the worst drafts ever... You just don't know... FUTURE my friends FUTURE.. Looking to the past is just like picking an old scab.. you just prolong the bleeding and it never quite heals right... Don't pick it..let it heal and after a while it's forgotten.
Any team in the league can look back at a draft and say ...man we "should have" taken this other guy... Hindsight is 20/20... Every year we look at our drafts and say ...hey this looks like a good draft"..these guys will help us.. Hindsight is 20/20 this is meaningless. Look forward..the past is gone... I think this can be one of our best drafts in decades...
However, I may look back in 5 years and say this was one of the worst drafts ever... You just don't know... FUTURE my friends FUTURE.. Looking to the past is just like picking an old scab.. you just prolong the bleeding and it never quite heals right... Don't pick it..let it heal and after a while it's forgotten.
I see your point but looking back at drafts can definitely provide some insight as to why we have failed miserably as an expansion teams, for the most part, teams that have drafted those players are solid NFL teams, the draft is a crap-shoot but to say it is blind luck is an overstatement.
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Only that he was listed as 'inactive'...as far as I can tell he's not injured. Who knows what the coach is thinking?
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Only that he was listed as 'inactive'...as far as I can tell he's not injured. Who knows what the coach is thinking?
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I know hindsite is 20/20 blah blah blah, but this is one of the most depressing topics I have ever seen in my entire life. I knew it was bad but when you see who was taken after us, it's a worthy of a pill overdose.
(3) Cleveland -- Gerard Warren, DT, Florida
(4) Cincinnati -- Justin Smith, DE, Missouri
(5) San Diego -- L. Tomlinson, RB, TCU
(6) New England -- Richard Seymour, DT
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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screw the hindisght chit.just a cop out. Well known Browns scouts wanted Seymour that yr. Butch screwed that one taking his guy but did get KW......the browns only impact player in 10 years of drafts. Passing on AP was the killer.............then and now.
Should have and I would have taken AP Sanchez and Rey Rey.........Taylor Mays if available next draft. 4 playmakers right there.
If you don't take Sanchez trade 1st this yr and 1st next yr and go get a legit established starting quarterback for 5 years.
IE JAY CUTLER.
Simple guys.
ps 3-4 don't work for chit.
Antonio bryant best receiver browns have had since 99.
Chris Jennings needs to play........you cant teach natural strength and ability to break a tackle.
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The Tim Couch pick was the poster child for all that came after. Taking a weakarmed run-n-shoot QB from Kentucky who didn't even have a playbook when we didn't even have a jock strap in the locker room yet was just plain stupid.
That draft was loaded and there were good FA QB's available as well as in the expansion draft.
Had we come out and established the run game or the defense to fit into this division it could have gone far in getting the franchise on track. Ten years later we are still chasing our tail with no identity.
Fold up the pie chart, the Tim Couch pick (not necessarily Tim Couch himself) and Carmen Policy's West Coast vision killed this franchise.
I hope Carmen gets glass chards in his wine tonight.
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