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  • DT rank #5.

    MIKE HALL JR. | Ohio State 6026 | 299 lbs. | 3SO Streetsboro, Ohio (Streetsboro) 6/13/2003 (age 20.87) 

    BACKGROUND: Michael “Mike” Hall Jr., the youngest of two boys, grew up in inner-city Cleveland. With rare size and athleticism at a young age, he started playing football at age 6, and the sport became his focus throughout childhood. Hall started his prep career at Benedictine High School, a Catholic al l-boys school in East Cleveland, and played on the freshman team. When his mother changed jobs, the family moved to Streetsboro (about 25 miles southeast of Cleveland), where Hall worked at the local McDonald’s. For his sophomore season, Hall enrolled at Streetsboro High School and started on both the offensive and defensive lines — he saw more time at offensive tackle out of necessity. His breakout season came in 2019, when he earned All-State honors with 71 tackles, 21.0 tackles for loss, 4.0 sacks and four forced fumbles, leading Streetsboro to an 11-1 record and the conference title (only loss came in the second round of the state playoffs). After his junior season, he was recruited by IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., and came close to transferring but ultimatelydecidedto stay put in Streetsboro for his final prep season. As a senior, Hall again earned All-State honors and was named Division III Defensive Player of the Year, despite missing time with a broken hand. He finished with 24 tackles and 9.0 tackles for loss, as Streetsboro again went undefeated during the regular season and won the 2020 conference title. Hall also lettered in baske tball.

    A four-star recruit, Hall was the No. 10 defensive lineman in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 2 recruit in Ohio (behind future OSU teammate Jack Sawyer). He was the No. 53 recruit nationally (three spots ahead of QB Drake Maye). After his sophomore year at Streetsboro, he received his first scholarship offer, from Kentucky, in June 2019. Several schools, including Cincinnati and Michigan State, soon followed and Ohio State formally offer ed him midway through his junior season. Hall had grown up a Buckeyes fan and committed to head coach Ryan Day in February 2020. He kept his recruitment open throughout the process and entertained offers from Alabama, Florida State, Penn State, Tennessee and others but ultimately jumped at the chance to attend his “dream school” and work with defensive line coach Larry Johnson. Hall was the seventh-rankedrecruit in Day’s 2021 class, which ranked No. 2 nationally. His son (Michael III) was born in September 2023. After three years in the program, he elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft. Hall accepted his invitation to the 2024 Senior Bowl and was voted the top defensive lineman on the National team during the week of practice. 

    STRENGTHS: Terrific initial quickness to get vertical or cross face blockers … times the snap well to surprise blockers … uses long arms and raw power to push the pocket … go-to attack includes a variety of arm-over/swim moves, mixing in spins and euros … rangy and alert in the run game with the ability to defeat cut blocks on the backside of zone runs … active with his large hands to absorb contact and aggressively stack-and-separate … plants his post leg to fight back through double teams … played on the offensive line in high school and is familiar with blockers’ counter measures (NFL scout: “With his talent, I bet he would’ve been a first-round center if he wanted to stay on offense.”) … his high motor leads to clean-up production … one of the youngest players in the draft class.

    WEAKNESSES: Lean build for an interior lineman and will be considered undersized for several schemes (NFL scout: “I’d like to see him she d some of the weight and be a 265-pound linebacker.”) … inconsistent base strength and can be moved off his rush path or displaced by blockers in the run game … not the most disciplined tackler and needs become a better finisher … flagged three times for personal fouls in 2023, including roughing the passer penalties on the Maryland and Penn State tapes … career production looks more like a single season … notched only two tackles in the backfield on 413 defensive snaps in 2023 … battled several nagging injuries over his career and averaged just 28.3 snaps per game the last two seasons.

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Ohio State, Hall was interchangeable at one- and three-technique in defensive coordinator Jim Knowles’ four-man front. His college stat sheet is underwhelming, especially from his final season in Columbus (2.0 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks), but his pass rush win rate (18.3 percent) was second best among FBS defensive tackles in 2023 (behind only Byron Murphy II). With his first-step burst and lateral agility, Hall quickly gets vertical and is a tough player to handle one-on-one. He uses his long arms and natural leverage to work underneath blocks, although his lack of size and anchor put him in compromised positions, especially versus the run. Overall, Hall was more of a flash player than consistent force, but his quick-twitch movements and natural energy are the ingredients of a disruptive gap penetrator. If he stays healthy, he will be an immediate rotation player and eventual starting three -technique tackle in a four-man front.

    GRADE: 2nd-3rd Round (No. 60 overall

  • G rank #10.

    ZAK ZINTER | Michigan 6057 | 309 lbs. | 4SR North Andover, Mass. (Buckingham) 4/17/2001 (age 23.02)

    BACKGROUND: Zak Zinter, the oldest of three children (younger brother and sister) was born and raised in Florida (grew up in the Port St. Lucie area). He started playing flag football at age 3, although he was unable to play Pop Warner because of weight restrictions. Zinter also played baseball, basketball and lacrosse over the years. Prior to Zinter’s seventh-grade year, his father (Paul Jr., who works in the pharmaceutical field) relocated for his job, so the family moved to North Andover, Mass. (just outside of Boston). Zinter enrolled at St. John’s Prep, a private Catholic school with several alumni in the football world, like Brian Kelly and Bill O’Brien. After four years at St. John’s Prep, he transferred to Buckingham Browne and Nichols School for his final two years of high school. Zinter started at right guard as a junior and senior captain and received numerous awards, including All-State and All-Conference both seasons. He was named Buckingham Browne and Nichols School MVP and New England Lineman of the Year in 2019. Zinter was also a standout track athlete at St. John’s Prep (won the shot put and discus titles as a sophomore) and at Buckingham Browne and Nichols School, winning the 2019 New England state shot put championship as a junior (school-record 49 feet, 7 inches).

    A four-star recruit, Zinter was the No. 10 offensive guard in the 2020 recruiting class and the No. 3 recruit in Massachusetts. Prior to his junior year of high school, he attended several recruiting camps and came away with a handful of FBS offers (Boston College, Duke, Penn State and Purdue). Zinter later added offers from Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State and ultimately committed to the Wolverines. He was the No. 16 recruit in Michigan’s class and enrolled early in January 2020.

    His younger brother (Preston) was a freshman linebacker at Notre Dame in 2023. His younger sister (Kierstyn) is a standout lacrosse player and has committed to the University of Tampa in the 2024 recruiting class. His father was a standout high school linebacker and played collegiately at UCF. His grandfather (Paul Sr.) was an All State linebacker in high school and an All-American at Eastern New Mexico. Zinter was named a 2022 Academic All-American and 2023 finalist for the William V. Campbell Trophy (Academic Heisman). He received an invitation to the 2024 Senior Bowl, but he was unable to participate because of his leg injury.

    STRENGTHS: Big, physical blocker with above-average length … functional run blocker with quickness to seal and leg drive to create movement … shuffles well to cut off pass-rush angles … not a great bender but still able to anchor at shallow depth to stop a charge … works really well in unison to recognize games and switch off blocks … team captain and universally liked in the program (offensive coordinator Sherrone Moore: “Family-oriented guy. Never late. Takes care of business like a pro.”) … dependable football-playing temperament and plays through pain (tore a ligament in his right thumb at practice his freshman year but started the next game) … spent a lot of time training at center (expected to start there at several points of his Michigan career) … logged 42 starts over the last four seasons.

    WEAKNESSES: Upright blocker with inconsistent knee bend and hip roll … initial drift leaves him late to react to inside rush moves … flashes pop in his hands but doesn’t consistently jolt defenders at contact … shows stiffness in his lower half and occasionally appears sluggish on combos and climbs … linebackers are able to avoid him at the second level … medical feedback will be important — broken tibia and fibula in his left leg late in his senior season (November 2023), which required surgery and sidelined him for the 2024 NFL Draft process; broken right wrist (September 2021) but wore a club and played thro ugh it; missed one game as a sophomore (October 2021) with a lower-body injury … only played right guard in games and lacks proven versatility at other positions.

    SUMMARY: A four-year starter at Michigan, Zinter was entrenched as the starting right guard in former head coach Jim Harbaugh’s power-spread offense. A three time All-Big Ten honoree, he played well as a senior (zero sacks allowed, zero penalties) until his broken leg against Ohio State, which unfortunately sidelined him for the entire draft process. An assignment-sound run blocker, Zinter uses body strength and proper positioning to lean on defenders and drive them with churning legs. While he is strong at the point of attack to stand up rushers in pass protection, he struggles to recover versus quickness in one -on-one matchups.

    Overall, Zinter won’t impress with explosion or leverage, but he is big, smart and physical, which allows him to control defenders, especiall y in closed quarters. He can have a Mark Glowinski type of NFL career, although his leg injury puts a discount sticker on his draft projection

    GRADE: 4th Round

  • I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

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  • An NFL scout really said a 282lb 3tech should shed "weight and be a LB". ? 

    I would fucking doubt that. And that's a piss poor eval. 

  • I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

    2023 

    /topic/66570

    2022 

    /topic/64338

    @londonbrown said:

    I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

    2023 

    /topic/66570

    2022 

    /topic/64338

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

  • An NFL scout really said a 282lb 3tech should shed "weight and be a LB". ? 

    I would fucking doubt that. And that's a piss poor eval. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    An NFL scout really said a 282lb 3tech should shed "weight and be a LB". ? 

    I would fucking doubt that. And that's a piss poor eval. 

    Was that an NFL scout or a Cub Scout?   My biggest concern with him, believe it or not, is how many times he doesn't have his head up when he's actually in ideal position to make a tackle (many of those for a loss).  The 1st question someone might ask me about that is - can't that be coached up? A lot of that depends on how long he's perfected this bad habit.  I would feel better about this pick if we made it 1 round later.  

  • @londonbrown said:

    I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

    2023 

    /topic/66570

    2022 

    /topic/64338

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

    @flugel said:

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5. 

    Which is why I asked on another thread if we just got another Tommy Togiai 2.0, a failure with the Browns.

  • @londonbrown said:

    I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

    2023 

    /topic/66570

    2022 

    /topic/64338

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

    @flugel said:

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

    Considering the value of the picks, I agree, I actually like the Zinter pick better. Much better value IMO.

    I don't hate the Hall pick, just feel like it was a bit early. 

  • @flugel said:

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5. 

    Which is why I asked on another thread if we just got another Tommy Togiai 2.0, a failure with the Browns.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Which is why I asked on another thread if we just got another Tommy Togiai 2.0, a failure with the Browns.

    No.  Tommy was a 'tweener.  Mikey is a 3/4 tech. 

  • and Hall just swats Zinter away

  • @londonbrown said:

    I will update as the picks come in meanwhile it may be interesting to look back at previous Brugler profiles of our picks to see how accurate (or not) things have panned out so far.....

    2023 

    /topic/66570

    2022 

    /topic/64338

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

    @flugel said:

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

    I like the pick in passing situations, Having him next to a double teamed Garrett he could disrupt the hell out of a backfield.

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    @flugel said:

    Thanks for the goodies LB!   I'm gonna vent a little here - just know it's not aimed at you.  This just feels like a good spot to exercise my 2 brain cells.

    I really like the Zinter selection; but I'm scratching my head about the 2nd round reach for Michael Hall Jr that many sites/publications had going in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm an Ohio State fan; but he ended with 2 tackles for losses and 1.5 sacks in his final season. That doesn't really stack up well against the other talent that went in round 2 IMO regardless of how well he did at the combines.  This felt a lot like reaching on DE Alex Wright a couple years ago.  Why???

    Why do I feel this way?  If we wanted to reach on a player - it should have been LEFT TACKLE Kiran Amegadjie or others equivalent LT prospects were available in round 2. Unfortunately, we still have a very sleepy Casper the Friendly Ghost entitled to his starting LT job.  He doesn't have to try or be consistent.  He often stops after his initial hit when he's run blocking. He hasn't even put in the work to have a consistent stance that sets him up for ideal leverage, power and base.  We've seen this for 4 years now. Film ain't gonna show us he's earned SQUAT. This FO drafted him at #10 overall so he's entitled.  Keeping him throws off the scent the FO failed here. Both RTs are coming off season ending injuries.  Our strength last year was OG; and it still was heading into the draft.  100% of our starting tackles (1 LT + 2 RTs).  However, I am very aware we signed a 9 veteran G/T (Germain Ifedi) that didn't appear in 1 game last year.  I think his most recent starts were all at Guard. Soooooo, our next pick today is in round 5.  

    I like the pick in passing situations, Having him next to a double teamed Garrett he could disrupt the hell out of a backfield.

    @syd said:

    I like the pick in passing situations, Having him next to a double teamed Garrett he could disrupt the hell out of a backfield.

    Thanks Syd!  I'm feeling better about it.

  • @syd said:

    I like the pick in passing situations, Having him next to a double teamed Garrett he could disrupt the hell out of a backfield.

    Thanks Syd!  I'm feeling better about it.

    @flugel said:

    Thanks Syd!  I'm feeling better about it.

    and for  the run game we got that fat ass from cincinnati 

  • sydS syd

    @syd said:

    Did you notice that was #65 (Zac Zinter) going against him?

  • sydS syd

    @flugel said:

    Thanks Syd!  I'm feeling better about it.

    and for  the run game we got that fat ass from cincinnati 

    @syd said:

    and for  the run game we got that fat ass from cincinnati 

    Yes we do!!!!

  • @syd said:

    Did you notice that was #65 (Zac Zinter) going against him?

    @flugel said:

    Did you notice that was #65 (Zac Zinter) going against him?

    thats why i posted it LOL

  • sydS syd

    @flugel said:

    Did you notice that was #65 (Zac Zinter) going against him?

    thats why i posted it LOL

    @syd said:

    thats why i posted it LOL

    Thinking ahead somewhat here.  It's conceivable that we could be looking at this grouping in a starting formation sometime within the next year or 2:

    Luke Wypler (Ohio State)  Zak Zinter (Michigan)  Dawand Jones (Ohio State)

        Center                             Right Guard                  Right Tackle

    I'm not in any hurry to push either Pro Bowl Guard out of our line-up; but injuries, contracts and other things create opportunities for newcomers.  

    Zinter and Hall will also be facing each other in practice. There's probably going to be situations where Wypler or Jones has to block Hall. 

  • @syd said:

    thats why i posted it LOL

    Thinking ahead somewhat here.  It's conceivable that we could be looking at this grouping in a starting formation sometime within the next year or 2:

    Luke Wypler (Ohio State)  Zak Zinter (Michigan)  Dawand Jones (Ohio State)

        Center                             Right Guard                  Right Tackle

    I'm not in any hurry to push either Pro Bowl Guard out of our line-up; but injuries, contracts and other things create opportunities for newcomers.  

    Zinter and Hall will also be facing each other in practice. There's probably going to be situations where Wypler or Jones has to block Hall. 

    @flugel said:

    Thinking ahead somewhat here.  It's conceivable that we could be looking at this grouping in a starting formation sometime within the next year or 2:

    Luke Wypler (Ohio State)  Zak Zinter (Michigan)  Dawand Jones (Ohio State)

        Center                             Right Guard                  Right Tackle

    I'm not in any hurry to push either Pro Bowl Guard out of our line-up; but injuries, contracts and other things create opportunities for newcomers.  

    Zinter and Hall will also be facing each other in practice. There's probably going to be situations where Wypler or Jones has to block Hall. 

    sure would save some money that way, so yes i agree

  • WR rank #26.

    JAMARI THRASH | Louisville 5116 | 188 lbs. | 5SR LaGrange, Ga. (Troup County) 12/19/2000 (age 23.35) 

    BACKGROUND: Jamari (juh-MAR-ee) Thrash grew up in LaGrange (10 miles from the Alabama-Georgia state line). He started playing football at age 8 as a quarterback and running back, and he was also a standout basketball player through middle school. Thrash originally attended LaGrange High School, where he played on varsity for two seasons as a wide receiver. He posted 36 catches for 541 yards and six touchdowns as a sophomore. After LaGrange won just two games in 2016, he transferred to Troup County High School for his final two years of high school. Thrash had his breakout season as a junior, when he led Class 4A with 1,410 receiving yards on 61 catches (23.1 average) and scored 19 touchdowns. He earned first team All-State honors and led the team to a 9-3 finish. As a senior, Thrash posted 42 catches for 1,066 yards (25.4 average) and 13 touchdowns and was named All-Region. He helped Troup County to a school-record 12 wins and a spot in the 2018 state playoff semifinals. Thrash was also a standout basketball player throughout high school, and he lettered in track, setting personal bests of 11.42 seconds in the 100 meters and 23.91 in the 200, as well as 18 feet, 2.25 inches in the long jump, 37 -4.75 in the triple jump and 5-10 in the high jump.

    A three-star recruit, Thrash was the No. 200 wide receiver in the 2019 recruiting class and the No. 169 recruit in Georgia. After his All-State junior season, his offer sheet filled up (Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Jacksonville State, South Alabama, Southern Miss, Troy, Tulane and UAB). Thrash committed to Georgia State and was the No. 4 recruit in head coach Shawn Elliott’s 2019 class. After four seasons with the program, he entered the transfer portal in January 2023. Thrash didn’t have any Power 5 offers out of high school, but he heard from several notable programs the second time around and ultimately committed to Louisville over Auburn for his final season of eligibility. Thrash opted out of the 2023 bowl game and accepted his invitation to the 2024 Senior Bowl

    STRENGTHS: Adequate height/length combination … quick to collect his feet for separation steps out of his breaks … compensates for average burst with crisp cuts as a route runner … catches the ball well in stride with supple adjustment skills to reach back across his body when necessary … made catches at all three levels, including two plays of 70-plus yards in 2023 … controlled athlete in space to give defenders the slip or weave in and out of traffic … finished fourth among ACC receivers with 17 forced missed tackles in 2023 … gutted through a broken hand over the final month of the 2023 season and earned consistent praise from the Louisville coaches (head coach Jeff Brohm: “He’s come in, has been unselfish and hasn’t missed one rep of practice.”) … led his team in receiving each of the last three seasons (two at Georgia State, one at Louisville).

    WEAKNESSES: Wiry frame with lean limbs and below-average play strength … inconsistent versus the jam and can be knocked off his route path … has a tough time making plays in traffic or finishing catches through contact … put more concentration drops on tape than expected (see 2023 Pittsburgh tape) … average speed by NFL standards and won’t run by NFL cornerbacks on vertical patterns … willing positional blocker but very inconsistent sustain … suffered a broken hand (October 2023) and required next-day surgery (including screws and a plate), but he missed only one game and played with a brace over the final month of his senior season … wasn’t used as a returner in college and didn’t play on special-teams coverages.

    SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Louisville, Thrash was used primarily as an outside receiver in head coach Jeff Brohm’s spread scheme. After leading the Sun Belt in receiving in 2022 at Georgia State, he transferred to Louisville in 2023 and quickly announced himse lf as the Cardinals’ No. 1 pass catcher (led the team in receiving in seven of the first eight games, before a broken hand hindered him over the final month). Quicker than fast, Thrash is an agil e route runner with natural ball-tracking skills. However, he struggles to finish catches through contact, and his lack of play strength will be more pronounced at the next level. Overall, Thrash doesn’t have a true distinguishing trait as a receiver, but his separation quickness and receiving savvy will be lifelines to an NFL career. His inexperience on special teams will need to change quickly once in an NFL camp.

    GRADE: 5th-6th Round