Teacher Salaries--Discuss
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They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
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I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
In other words, only teach things the way I want them to be taught.
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I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
Except for the thing about "passion", none of what you said as any bearing on what Jax is talking about.
That is not at all what is meant by indoctrination. Indoctrination is the practice of shaping young highly impressionable minds into a leftist ideology and way of thinking.
That should be evident partly due to the history of hate speech and violence made towards conservative speakers on campuses.
Or were you not aware of that?
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They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
Undervaluing education can be interpreted in a couple of different ways, not only in the way that you were conditioned to believe.
If I were a flaming liberal, I couldn't imagine teaching in Florida either.
For some reason you mentioned about slavery being taught.
I'd bet you were taught about slavery in college the same way I was, with a lot of profound omissions.
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This didn't happen in real life, but was a skit made in order to have discussion over this issue.
Even though it was a skit, she sure as hell didn't seem to be acting. Black people don't like this gay shit either.
You tell it like it is mamma! "We're paying you to teach history"
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I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
Teachers literally shape our minds. We're all better off with an indoctrinated society. (Fixed it for you).
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They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
Just look at those crazy eyes!
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I'd say some teachers make WAY TOO much money. They are lazy and don't teach.
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I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
"You taught about slavery?" "You mentioned gay people exist!?"
Right, we get it dude. If the school isn't teaching what you want it is indoctrination.
Teachers literally shape our future. We're all better off with an educated society.
Being dismissive of pay by saying "well it should be your passion" is dumb. Most folks don't work where they're passionate. Some folks are better at the things they're not passionate about.
We should value teachers higher and that should be reflected in their pay.
We value teachers and it does show in their pay, healthcare and retirement.
My main point is it's not pay that prevents them from teaching, it's political bs.
You're still ignorant and immature to understand when someone says passion should be the driving force. I clearly said not JUST pay. However I just realized I'm referencing something you said about the best teachers leaving because of pay. Trying to offer you better insight into something you pulled out of your ass, my bad. Please prove the best teachers are leaving and then prove it's because of pay.
That's why people treat you like a dumbass, you constantly put words in peoples mouth and twist anything they say. If you don't hear what you want you throw a temper tantrum.
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I don't think they're underpaid. To be the best teacher it should be a passion not just a paycheck. With that said, I think they get paid fairly.
Also, the education system in a lot of communities is a cess pool of political ideals. Who wants to teach things they don't believe in? A teachers job isn't to worry about math being racist, numbers don't lie, 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Everyone could always use a raise, but the problems with teachers lies in the system.
If you value education then teach about subjects correctly. Stop trying to indoctrinate students and hire teachers that have standards and know how to separate their personal beliefs and lives from education.
In other words, only teach things the way I want them to be taught.
In other words, only teach things the way I want them to be taught.
Is this only bad in cases where the parent has views you disagree with?
Teachers literally shape our future.
Which is exactly the reason I would want my kids to be taught things the way I want them to be taught and not left to the average idiot who graduates with an education degree. They aren't the state's children. I'd wager the majority of education majors that we graduated with were Kony 2012 social media slacktivists.
I don't understand why neoliberals are outraged that conservative people want their children to be raised with similar values to their own. They aren't your children. If you want a drag queen to read to your children or if you want your kid to go to a school that has some antiracist curriculum, by all means, go for it. The state should not be able to tell you that you can't. Likewise, if an evangelical pulls their kid out of public school so that they can "teach the controversy," the state should not step in.
We're all better off with an educated society.
To a point. Pursuit of higher education has made millennials put off having children, and the US for the first time ever has a fertility rate below the replacement rate.
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In other words, only teach things the way I want them to be taught.
Is this only bad in cases where the parent has views you disagree with?
Teachers literally shape our future.
Which is exactly the reason I would want my kids to be taught things the way I want them to be taught and not left to the average idiot who graduates with an education degree. They aren't the state's children. I'd wager the majority of education majors that we graduated with were Kony 2012 social media slacktivists.
I don't understand why neoliberals are outraged that conservative people want their children to be raised with similar values to their own. They aren't your children. If you want a drag queen to read to your children or if you want your kid to go to a school that has some antiracist curriculum, by all means, go for it. The state should not be able to tell you that you can't. Likewise, if an evangelical pulls their kid out of public school so that they can "teach the controversy," the state should not step in.
We're all better off with an educated society.
To a point. Pursuit of higher education has made millennials put off having children, and the US for the first time ever has a fertility rate below the replacement rate.
Is this only bad in cases where the parent has views you disagree with?
Which is exactly the reason I would want my kids to be taught things the way I want them to be taught and not left to the average idiot who graduates with an education degree. They aren't the state's children. I'd wager the majority of education majors that we graduated with were Kony 2012 social media slacktivists.
I don't understand why neoliberals are outraged that conservative people want their children to be raised with similar values to their own. They aren't your children. If you want a drag queen to read to your children or if you want your kid to go to a school that has some antiracist curriculum, by all means, go for it. The state should not be able to tell you that you can't. Likewise, if an evangelical pulls their kid out of public school so that they can "teach the controversy," the state should not step in.
To a point. Pursuit of higher education has made millennials put off having children, and the US for the first time ever has a fertility rate below the replacement rate.
Except for the Illegals.
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I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.
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They're under paid and it causes the best teachers to seek employment elsewhere. Our country undervalues education, at least part of this country, and it shows.
And Christ, I couldn't imagine trying to be a teacher in Florida
Undervaluing education can be interpreted in a couple of different ways, not only in the way that you were conditioned to believe.
If I were a flaming liberal, I couldn't imagine teaching in Florida either.
For some reason you mentioned about slavery being taught.
I'd bet you were taught about slavery in college the same way I was, with a lot of profound omissions.
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In other words, only teach things the way I want them to be taught.
Is this only bad in cases where the parent has views you disagree with?
Teachers literally shape our future.
Which is exactly the reason I would want my kids to be taught things the way I want them to be taught and not left to the average idiot who graduates with an education degree. They aren't the state's children. I'd wager the majority of education majors that we graduated with were Kony 2012 social media slacktivists.
I don't understand why neoliberals are outraged that conservative people want their children to be raised with similar values to their own. They aren't your children. If you want a drag queen to read to your children or if you want your kid to go to a school that has some antiracist curriculum, by all means, go for it. The state should not be able to tell you that you can't. Likewise, if an evangelical pulls their kid out of public school so that they can "teach the controversy," the state should not step in.
We're all better off with an educated society.
To a point. Pursuit of higher education has made millennials put off having children, and the US for the first time ever has a fertility rate below the replacement rate.
Is this only bad in cases where the parent has views you disagree with?
Which is exactly the reason I would want my kids to be taught things the way I want them to be taught and not left to the average idiot who graduates with an education degree. They aren't the state's children. I'd wager the majority of education majors that we graduated with were Kony 2012 social media slacktivists.
I don't understand why neoliberals are outraged that conservative people want their children to be raised with similar values to their own. They aren't your children. If you want a drag queen to read to your children or if you want your kid to go to a school that has some antiracist curriculum, by all means, go for it. The state should not be able to tell you that you can't. Likewise, if an evangelical pulls their kid out of public school so that they can "teach the controversy," the state should not step in.
To a point. Pursuit of higher education has made millennials put off having children, and the US for the first time ever has a fertility rate below the replacement rate.
Who says your last paragraph is necessarily a bad thing?
Taking a kid out of school so parents can teach them their "truth". Great. Lovely. When that kid is an adult with a limited understanding of math, science, a skewed view of history, etc. that's not great. Standards placed across the country on education and advancement are a good thing to create the building blocks for a functional society.
What is being taught in schools and what LibsOfTikTok is spewing over the Internet to build up hatred are two different things. It's not indoctrination to teach that slavery was a major cause of the civil war, sorry.
I could never see teaching in Florida and I'd never want to raise a kid there either. But I'm not a resident and a voter there.
This isn't necessarily addressed to you, but I'll leave off where I started: Teachers are underpaid. And we having a growing base of anti education, anti academic individuals. That's all bad for this country long term. I don't want to hear indoctrination this, neo liberal that, blah blah blah drag queens. It should be alarming a group is so actively pushing for less educated citizens. I greatly value everything I've learned in before undergrad, in undergrad, and my MBA. It's sad to see folks so actively fighting that.
(And no, college isn't for everyone. Yes, skilled trades folks are intelligent and can be very successful, etc etc etc and whatever else I'll hear about in responses because I didn't cover everything)
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I honestly have a really high opinion of teachers. It’s a tough gig man, and not everyone’s cut out for it.
I am pro-education. I am that guy who blindly votes for every school levy. I do some of the dirty work too. It’s not just teachers. It’s coaches, it’s mentors, it’s sponsoring scholarship funds, it’s giving kids’ jobs. It’s a community effort when it’s working on all cylinders.
I am a fan of “the cannon.” A literary term that boils down to a set of works that is taught to subsequent generations so that we all have shared learning experiences to connect us. Sorta like we all know the ABC song and we all read the Scarlett Letter. Stuff like that. It’s good that the cannon evolves but ideally at a pace that matches the generational turnaround.
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