Teacher Salaries--Discuss
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in our public eduction system (mn) - the school districts enjoy adequate funding each year
trouble is, the reading, math writing scores dont reflect a decent enough return on what is expected by its own standards
and of course its investment (tax dollars)
the left (leadership / lawmakers) thinks that test scores failure / shortfall is due to, you guessed it - not enough money, go figure?
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solution?
home school with a professional educator who is NOT beheld by teachers unions
and your child is not subject to the societal sewer until he / she is of age and can manuever through it as an adult.
I dare you pecker to refute that
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Just to guess But maybe 10 or 15 percent of teachers Are True inspirations To their students. 70% can probably Slide by with reasonably bright and accepting kids. And another 15% are such assholes they actually deter learning.
I guess that it's also just as likely that the 15% that are great are that way regardless of what level degree they have. Like most everything else you either have a talent for it or you don't.
WSS
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Who says your last paragraph is necessarily a bad thing?
Taking a kid out of school so parents can teach them their "truth". Great. Lovely. When that kid is an adult with a limited understanding of math, science, a skewed view of history, etc. that's not great. Standards placed across the country on education and advancement are a good thing to create the building blocks for a functional society.
I'd argue that many of the people going all the way through the American education system have exactly the same deficits. Case in point is one of the protest leaders at Columbia begging the university to feed them. Here's her graduate student profile. ?
https://english.columbia.edu/content/johannah-king-slutzky
What is being taught in schools and what LibsOfTikTok is spewing over the Internet to build up hatred are two different things. It's not indoctrination to teach that slavery was a major cause of the civil war, sorry.
This isn't necessarily addressed to you, but I'll leave off where I started: Teachers are underpaid. And we having a growing base of anti education, anti academic individuals. That's all bad for this country long term. I don't want to hear indoctrination this, neo liberal that, blah blah blah drag queens. It should be alarming a group is so actively pushing for less educated citizens. I greatly value everything I've learned in before undergrad, in undergrad, and my MBA. It's sad to see folks so actively fighting that.
(And no, college isn't for everyone. Yes, skilled trades folks are intelligent and can be very successful, etc etc etc and whatever else I'll hear about in responses because I didn't cover everything)
Agree with you on the slavery and teachers having higher pay topics. I think you're downplaying the drag nonsense. A colleague of mine pulled his kids out of Hawken School because they were having drag story hour events. You are conflating anti-education with anti-indoctrination. No one here, not even cal, would want their kids to be uneducated. But I'm pretty sure everyone here, including you, wouldn't want their kid to end up like this Johannah idiot above.
You're an engineer. Respectfully, that's still a decent field that shouldn't really require any DEI bullshit. Learn calc, learn applied math, go out and create stuff.
Unfortunately, medicine isn't nearly as shielded from that nonsense. In the US, medical education is pushing the idea that if a child is saying they are transgender, pushing them toward the path of hormone blockers is both acceptable and encouraged. If you are a resident, if you have moral qualms about doing that, and you speak out against that, you are opening up yourself to retaliation and possibly getting expelled from your program. Every medical school now has a DEI office, run by woke ideologues, that you run the risk of pissing off. So, sadly, everyone I know in pediatrics who went through it with that opinion just kept their mouth shut. It's become too politicized.
If you are asian or white and you score in the 90th percentile on your MCAT, you are less likely to get into medical school than a black or hispanic person who scores in the 75th percentile. Instead of raising the standard for people of all races, about 10-20 years ago, schools have instead tried to recruit classes that match the racial makeup of the entire country. There simply aren't enough black and hispanic applicants who have comparable test scores to whites and asians. Unfortunately, this has resulted in many black and hispanic students matriculating in the place of a more qualified white or asian applicant. And in a result that no one could have predicted, now there are a disproportionate number of blacks and hispanics failing out of residency programs.
I would guess that most people here are against the politicization of academia rather than education itself. I'm probably the most anti-higher education person on this board. Getting an education for STEM fields is mostly okay, but clearly there is something wrong when half of college grads end up working high school level jobs.
I'm proud of what I accomplished in school. You should be proud of what you accomplished, too. Learning and teaching are things that should be celebrated. It is very fulfilling and lucrative for a select few of us. Unfortunately, it's mostly a racket for the rest.
I'd argue that many of the people going all the way through the American education system have exactly the same deficits. Case in point is one of the protest leaders at Columbia begging the university to feed them. Here's her graduate student profile. ?
https://english.columbia.edu/content/johannah-king-slutzky
Agree with you on the slavery and teachers having higher pay topics. I think you're downplaying the drag nonsense. A colleague of mine pulled his kids out of Hawken School because they were having drag story hour events. You are conflating anti-education with anti-indoctrination. No one here, not even cal, would want their kids to be uneducated. But I'm pretty sure everyone here, including you, wouldn't want their kid to end up like this Johannah idiot above.
You're an engineer. Respectfully, that's still a decent field that shouldn't really require any DEI bullshit. Learn calc, learn applied math, go out and create stuff.
Unfortunately, medicine isn't nearly as shielded from that nonsense. In the US, medical education is pushing the idea that if a child is saying they are transgender, pushing them toward the path of hormone blockers is both acceptable and encouraged. If you are a resident, if you have moral qualms about doing that, and you speak out against that, you are opening up yourself to retaliation and possibly getting expelled from your program. Every medical school now has a DEI office, run by woke ideologues, that you run the risk of pissing off. So, sadly, everyone I know in pediatrics who went through it with that opinion just kept their mouth shut. It's become too politicized.
If you are asian or white and you score in the 90th percentile on your MCAT, you are less likely to get into medical school than a black or hispanic person who scores in the 75th percentile. Instead of raising the standard for people of all races, about 10-20 years ago, schools have instead tried to recruit classes that match the racial makeup of the entire country. There simply aren't enough black and hispanic applicants who have comparable test scores to whites and asians. Unfortunately, this has resulted in many black and hispanic students matriculating in the place of a more qualified white or asian applicant. And in a result that no one could have predicted, now there are a disproportionate number of blacks and hispanics failing out of residency programs.
I would guess that most people here are against the politicization of academia rather than education itself. I'm probably the most anti-higher education person on this board. Getting an education for STEM fields is mostly okay, but clearly there is something wrong when half of college grads end up working high school level jobs.
I'm proud of what I accomplished in school. You should be proud of what you accomplished, too. Learning and teaching are things that should be celebrated. It is very fulfilling and lucrative for a select few of us. Unfortunately, it's mostly a racket for the rest.
I'm sure she will have a lucrative career.?
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I'd argue that many of the people going all the way through the American education system have exactly the same deficits. Case in point is one of the protest leaders at Columbia begging the university to feed them. Here's her graduate student profile. ?
https://english.columbia.edu/content/johannah-king-slutzky
Agree with you on the slavery and teachers having higher pay topics. I think you're downplaying the drag nonsense. A colleague of mine pulled his kids out of Hawken School because they were having drag story hour events. You are conflating anti-education with anti-indoctrination. No one here, not even cal, would want their kids to be uneducated. But I'm pretty sure everyone here, including you, wouldn't want their kid to end up like this Johannah idiot above.
You're an engineer. Respectfully, that's still a decent field that shouldn't really require any DEI bullshit. Learn calc, learn applied math, go out and create stuff.
Unfortunately, medicine isn't nearly as shielded from that nonsense. In the US, medical education is pushing the idea that if a child is saying they are transgender, pushing them toward the path of hormone blockers is both acceptable and encouraged. If you are a resident, if you have moral qualms about doing that, and you speak out against that, you are opening up yourself to retaliation and possibly getting expelled from your program. Every medical school now has a DEI office, run by woke ideologues, that you run the risk of pissing off. So, sadly, everyone I know in pediatrics who went through it with that opinion just kept their mouth shut. It's become too politicized.
If you are asian or white and you score in the 90th percentile on your MCAT, you are less likely to get into medical school than a black or hispanic person who scores in the 75th percentile. Instead of raising the standard for people of all races, about 10-20 years ago, schools have instead tried to recruit classes that match the racial makeup of the entire country. There simply aren't enough black and hispanic applicants who have comparable test scores to whites and asians. Unfortunately, this has resulted in many black and hispanic students matriculating in the place of a more qualified white or asian applicant. And in a result that no one could have predicted, now there are a disproportionate number of blacks and hispanics failing out of residency programs.
I would guess that most people here are against the politicization of academia rather than education itself. I'm probably the most anti-higher education person on this board. Getting an education for STEM fields is mostly okay, but clearly there is something wrong when half of college grads end up working high school level jobs.
I'm proud of what I accomplished in school. You should be proud of what you accomplished, too. Learning and teaching are things that should be celebrated. It is very fulfilling and lucrative for a select few of us. Unfortunately, it's mostly a racket for the rest.
I'm sure she will have a lucrative career.?
I'm sure she will have a lucrative career.?
If babylon bee or the onion did a parody of these people and used the name "King-Slutzky" people would have been saying that the name is too ridiculous.
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While we're on the topic of education. This is going viral right now. Got sent to a member of Congress by a cadet. This is from West Point.
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? Harvards broken
??? ? I'll just pass on the Harvard MD's... ?
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While we're on the topic of education. This is going viral right now. Got sent to a member of Congress by a cadet. This is from West Point.
While we're on the topic of education. This is going viral right now. Got sent to a member of Congress by a cadet. This is from West Point.
Yes, and here I thought the purpose of the military (of which I spent 1/3 of my life) was to defeat the enemy.
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I studied engineering. Slavery never came up
Well that explains a lot.
Where I went to school engineering students were required to take humanities and social science courses electives.
Black history wasn't an option tho, it was required. It began with learning all about the institution of slavery.
Slavery was taught as if it were the invention of the evil white man.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pointed out to him the facts he failed to mention, and there are quite a few such as...
The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.
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I studied engineering. Slavery never came up
Well that explains a lot.
Where I went to school engineering students were required to take humanities and social science courses electives.
Black history wasn't an option tho, it was required. It began with learning all about the institution of slavery.
Slavery was taught as if it were the invention of the evil white man.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pointed out to him the facts he failed to mention, and there are quite a few such as...
The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.
Well that explains a lot.
Where I went to school engineering students were required to take humanities and social science courses electives.
Black history wasn't an option tho, it was required. It began with learning all about the institution of slavery.
Slavery was taught as if it were the invention of the evil white man.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pointed out to him the facts he failed to mention, and there are quite a few such as...
The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.
Whatever fits their narrative and gets them free stuff.( Biden whisper: they don't care about racism)
Woody is ignorant and immature yet.
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Well that explains a lot.
Where I went to school engineering students were required to take humanities and social science courses electives.
Black history wasn't an option tho, it was required. It began with learning all about the institution of slavery.
Slavery was taught as if it were the invention of the evil white man.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have pointed out to him the facts he failed to mention, and there are quite a few such as...
The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.
Whatever fits their narrative and gets them free stuff.( Biden whisper: they don't care about racism)
Woody is ignorant and immature yet.
Whatever fits their narrative and gets them free stuff.( Biden whisper: they don't care about racism)
Woody is ignorant and immature yet.
I don't want any free stuff. I'm doing pretty well.
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I don't want any free stuff. I'm doing pretty well.
Then stop whining.
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I don't want any free stuff. I'm doing pretty well.
Then stop whining.
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I don't want any free stuff. I'm doing pretty well.
Then stop whining.
Then stop whining.
Oh right right, I forgot it's core to the conservative experience to only think about things that directly impacted you.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
chicago teachers should not make a salary - they should be paid by the hour they teach correctly.
Meaning, they don't get any pay.
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Oh right right, I forgot it's core to the conservative experience to only think about things that directly impacted you.
Whines about white supremacy and systemic racism that 'still' affects blacks today, but gloats how well the little white engineer does all the while pretends that the mlb movement and crying has nothing to do with just wanting free stuff and be given a free ride just because he doesn't need anything. - dumbass cult
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