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    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by Vambo
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    https://www.facebook.com/reel/445745991767074

    You can hear several shots and then Trump being tucked down.

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      @neo said:

      I was 144 yards. More than a football field. It was too loud to be a 22. A .223 or 5.56 would be missing part of his ear. I'm not saying this is staged or anything, but something doesn't add up. And before people get on me about the .223 or 5.56, there are plenty of videos that illustrate the power of both rounds.

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      There's a guy with his head blown off on top of the roof and following all the rhetoric from the left this comes as no surprise.

      Trump was well on his way to winning hands down, why stage this and blow a guys head off?

      As far as what damage the bullet did, we didn't actually get a very accurate picture yet or did we? The sound however is subjective.

      I'm biting pretty hard on a nutcase, but hopefully we'll get a better picture soon.

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      @jax said:

      There's a guy with his head blown off on top of the roof and following all the rhetoric from the left this comes as no surprise.

      Trump was well on his way to winning hands down, why stage this and blow a guys head off?

      As far as what damage the bullet did, we didn't actually get a very accurate picture yet or did we? The sound however is subjective.

      I'm biting pretty hard on a nutcase, but hopefully we'll get a better picture soon.

      I heard the shot, it was almost one and a half football fields away and they aren't even sure what roof it was, it could have been further. It was way too loud to be a 22, and any bullet from an AR would have taken a piece out of his ear

       Ears are just soft tissue. I'm guessing he wasn't hit by a bullet but a fragment of something. Glass or a tiny piece of a bullet.  I have been hit in the face by a ricochet at a range once from a very small piece of a bullet. 

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        JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by
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          1. I will say this, surviving the assassination attempt, having the bloody face, and raising his fist in the air is a hell of a picture. It's pretty badass and that pic alone is going to win him votes. 

          2. We're going to get some grade A JAFBF content out of this

          3. Diehard is right. We're going to get a bunch of ridiculous info for a bit as the dust settles. 

          4. There is a gun control aspect to this, obviously, but we can let the dust settle 

          5. Both sides are going hard into some ridiculous political stuff. Not the actual politicians, mostly, but absolutely randos on Twitter. There's an Elon Musk retweet that's essentially blaming this on the director of the secret service being a female ("DEI bad!" nonsense). 

          6. Trump was probably beating Biden before this, but now it's guaranteed. Hell, I wouldn't want to be a Biden replacement trying to beat Trump now either. 

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            AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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            Why are the media still referring to this as a possible assassination attempt?

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              @jbluhm86 said:

              Almost sounds like he got shot at with a .22.

              Can't wait to see the conspiracy theories on how Trump and his team staged this.

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              @neo said:

              It's nOt a DeMoCrAt BeCaUsE DeMoCrAts DoNt HaVe gUnz?

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                Why are the media still referring to this as a possible assassination attempt?

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @axe said:

                Why are the media still referring to this as a possible assassination attempt?

                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/13/donald-trump-shot-gunman-what-we-know/74396996007/

                Trump wounded in assassination attempt. Biden calls it 'sick': Here's what we know

                There's one

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                  Why are the media still referring to this as a possible assassination attempt?

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                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                  @axe said:

                  Why are the media still referring to this as a possible assassination attempt?

                  What media isn't calling it an assassination attempt?  Even CNN has been calling it an assassination attempt.  

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                    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                    I take it the shooter's manifesto has to be removed from his page before his identity is revealed?

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                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                      This one is definitely going to fuel the conspiracy theorists out there. Looks like a Secret Service sniper had eyes on the suspected shooter, but the shooter got off two or three shots before Secret Service returned fire.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        I take back what I said about insane rhetoric being out there right now, but not from our politicians

                        Marjorie Taylor Greene is being her insane self on Twitter right now. Spoke too soon. 

                        Insane rhetoric all around I guess

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                          1. I will say this, surviving the assassination attempt, having the bloody face, and raising his fist in the air is a hell of a picture. It's pretty badass and that pic alone is going to win him votes. 

                          2. We're going to get some grade A JAFBF content out of this

                          3. Diehard is right. We're going to get a bunch of ridiculous info for a bit as the dust settles. 

                          4. There is a gun control aspect to this, obviously, but we can let the dust settle 

                          5. Both sides are going hard into some ridiculous political stuff. Not the actual politicians, mostly, but absolutely randos on Twitter. There's an Elon Musk retweet that's essentially blaming this on the director of the secret service being a female ("DEI bad!" nonsense). 

                          6. Trump was probably beating Biden before this, but now it's guaranteed. Hell, I wouldn't want to be a Biden replacement trying to beat Trump now either. 

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Both sides are going hard into some ridiculous political stuff. Not the actual politicians, mostly, but absolutely randos on Twitter. There's an Elon Musk retweet that's essentially blaming this on the director of the secret service being a female ("DEI bad!" nonsense). 

                          I don't care what any side says, I'm just going but what I saw. The side of Trump's head that supposedly got "grazed" was turned away from the camera. They showed a close up of his ear and it was bloody but intact. I don't think anybody is going to try to assassinate someone with a .22 a football field and a half distance away, and I don't think he was hit with a high caliber bullet or half of his head would be gone, or at least his ear would be gone. I think he got hit with shrapnal from a ricochet. Either way, how did the shooter manage to crawl up on a fucking roof overlooking the event and take a shot before anyone noticed him up there?

                          I'm not listening to the news, I'm just going by what I saw and so far, shit doesn't add up.

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                            This one is definitely going to fuel the conspiracy theorists out there. Looks like a Secret Service sniper had eyes on the suspected shooter, but the shooter got off two or three shots before Secret Service returned fire.

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                            @jbluhm86 said:

                            This one is definitely going to fuel the conspiracy theorists out there. Looks like a Secret Service sniper had eyes on the suspected shooter, but the shooter got off two or three shots before Secret Service returned fire.

                            So somebody is filming the guy on the roof trying to kill trump but nobody says anything? He just stands there and films?

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                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              This one is definitely going to fuel the conspiracy theorists out there. Looks like a Secret Service sniper had eyes on the suspected shooter, but the shooter got off two or three shots before Secret Service returned fire.

                              So somebody is filming the guy on the roof trying to kill trump but nobody says anything? He just stands there and films?

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                              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                              @neo said:

                              So somebody is filming the guy on the roof trying to kill trump but nobody says anything? He just stands there and films?

                              I believe the rifleman in black in that video was the Secret Service sniper, not the attempted assassin.

                              The real interesting bit is there are reports from eyewitnesses that saw and pointed out the would-be assassin to law enforcement before he shot at Trump.

                              Take these eyewitness accounts with a grain of salt for sure, but if they are true, why did the Secret Service wait until the gunman shot before they shot him? Or, at the very least, why did they not escort Trump off stage?

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Both sides are going hard into some ridiculous political stuff. Not the actual politicians, mostly, but absolutely randos on Twitter. There's an Elon Musk retweet that's essentially blaming this on the director of the secret service being a female ("DEI bad!" nonsense). 

                                I don't care what any side says, I'm just going but what I saw. The side of Trump's head that supposedly got "grazed" was turned away from the camera. They showed a close up of his ear and it was bloody but intact. I don't think anybody is going to try to assassinate someone with a .22 a football field and a half distance away, and I don't think he was hit with a high caliber bullet or half of his head would be gone, or at least his ear would be gone. I think he got hit with shrapnal from a ricochet. Either way, how did the shooter manage to crawl up on a fucking roof overlooking the event and take a shot before anyone noticed him up there?

                                I'm not listening to the news, I'm just going by what I saw and so far, shit doesn't add up.

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                                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                @neo said:

                                I don't care what any side says, I'm just going but what I saw. The side of Trump's head that supposedly got "grazed" was turned away from the camera. They showed a close up of his ear and it was bloody but intact. I don't think anybody is going to try to assassinate someone with a .22 a football field and a half distance away, and I don't think he was hit with a high caliber bullet or half of his head would be gone, or at least his ear would be gone. I think he got hit with shrapnal from a ricochet. Either way, how did the shooter manage to crawl up on a fucking roof overlooking the event and take a shot before anyone noticed him up there?

                                I'm not listening to the news, I'm just going by what I saw and so far, shit doesn't add up.

                                Please stop talking about things you don't understand. 

                                .22 is not the same thing as .223 or 5.56, but they're just about the same diameter. The left is .22LR. The right is .223. The difference in diameter of the bullet is 0.001 inches. .223 is the most common ammunition for AR-15s, which are the most common long rifle in the country. The .223 round carries a lot more gunpowder, muzzle velocity is 2-3 times as fast, can be accurately fired by a skilled shooter out to 400 yards, but it is not a "high caliber" weapon by any means. 

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                                "High caliber" weapons would be things like .300 blackout, 7.62, .30-06, .45, .50.

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                                Here is the sound of the vegas shooting from the crowd. The majority of his guns were chambered in .223. It sounds like a pop-gun in this too. Sounds similar to the Trump assassination attempt, to me.

                                Just because bullets are capable of doing a lot of damage, it doesn't mean that they will. Trump was incredibly fortunate it only grazed his ear - he turned his head a split second before the shot. If it touched his skull, he would be in a neuro ICU or morgue right now. 

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                                  What an absolute embarrassment for the secret service. Why on earth would they not have any security at the shooter's perch? It's not like it's in the middle of a big city with too many places to realistically cover. 

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                                  @neo said:

                                  It's nOt a DeMoCrAt BeCaUsE DeMoCrAts DoNt HaVe gUnz?

                                  The shot placement, however, does confirm a Democrat shooter, lmao. 

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                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  The shot placement, however, does confirm a Democrat shooter, lmao. 

                                  Ok, we've got jokes. So explain this. The wound on trump's ear is at the top, but the so called bullet is level with the bottom of his ear and moving completely horizontal from left to right. And I am aware the camera is looking slighty up at him which mean if you made the camera level, the bullet would be even lower.

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                                    @neo said:

                                    I don't care what any side says, I'm just going but what I saw. The side of Trump's head that supposedly got "grazed" was turned away from the camera. They showed a close up of his ear and it was bloody but intact. I don't think anybody is going to try to assassinate someone with a .22 a football field and a half distance away, and I don't think he was hit with a high caliber bullet or half of his head would be gone, or at least his ear would be gone. I think he got hit with shrapnal from a ricochet. Either way, how did the shooter manage to crawl up on a fucking roof overlooking the event and take a shot before anyone noticed him up there?

                                    I'm not listening to the news, I'm just going by what I saw and so far, shit doesn't add up.

                                    Please stop talking about things you don't understand. 

                                    .22 is not the same thing as .223 or 5.56, but they're just about the same diameter. The left is .22LR. The right is .223. The difference in diameter of the bullet is 0.001 inches. .223 is the most common ammunition for AR-15s, which are the most common long rifle in the country. The .223 round carries a lot more gunpowder, muzzle velocity is 2-3 times as fast, can be accurately fired by a skilled shooter out to 400 yards, but it is not a "high caliber" weapon by any means. 

                                    22LR vs 223 | Ballistics and Common Uses Compared

                                    "High caliber" weapons would be things like .300 blackout, 7.62, .30-06, .45, .50.

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                                    Here is the sound of the vegas shooting from the crowd. The majority of his guns were chambered in .223. It sounds like a pop-gun in this too. Sounds similar to the Trump assassination attempt, to me.

                                    Just because bullets are capable of doing a lot of damage, it doesn't mean that they will. Trump was incredibly fortunate it only grazed his ear - he turned his head a split second before the shot. If it touched his skull, he would be in a neuro ICU or morgue right now. 

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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    Please stop talking about things you don't understand. 

                                    .22 is not the same thing as .223 or 5.56, but they're just about the same diameter. The left is .22LR. The right is .223. The difference in diameter of the bullet is 0.001 inches. .223 is the most common ammunition for AR-15s, which are the most common long rifle in the country. The .223 round carries a lot more gunpowder, muzzle velocity is 2-3 times as fast, can be accurately fired by a skilled shooter out to 400 yards, but it is not a "high caliber" weapon by any means. 

                                    .223 and 5.56 travel at supersonic speeds. If you listen to the report of the shot, it sounds quiet and then you hear the crack. If he had a supressor on his gun, if he wasn't using subsonic ammo, it would sound quiet then the bullet would break the sound barrier and you hear the distictinve crack. Something moving faster than the speed of sound going to do damage to soft cartilidge like an ear.

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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      The shot placement, however, does confirm a Democrat shooter, lmao. 

                                      Ok, we've got jokes. So explain this. The wound on trump's ear is at the top, but the so called bullet is level with the bottom of his ear and moving completely horizontal from left to right. And I am aware the camera is looking slighty up at him which mean if you made the camera level, the bullet would be even lower.

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                                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                      @neo said:

                                      Ok, we've got jokes. So explain this. The wound on trump's ear is at the top, but the so called bullet is level with the bottom of his ear and moving completely horizontal from left to right. And I am aware the camera is looking slighty up at him which mean if you made the camera level, the bullet would be even lower.

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                                      1 - Parallax error. The bottom of Trump's right ear isn't necessarily on that yellow line. You can't really gauge the width of Trump's head on any single picture. Would need a second angle of the same point in time. 
                                      2 - Multiple shots were fired by the shooter. No way to tell which one this is.
                                      3 - Your line is just slightly below the trajectory of the bullet

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                                        @neo said:

                                        Ok, we've got jokes. So explain this. The wound on trump's ear is at the top, but the so called bullet is level with the bottom of his ear and moving completely horizontal from left to right. And I am aware the camera is looking slighty up at him which mean if you made the camera level, the bullet would be even lower.

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                                        1 - Parallax error. The bottom of Trump's right ear isn't necessarily on that yellow line. You can't really gauge the width of Trump's head on any single picture. Would need a second angle of the same point in time. 
                                        2 - Multiple shots were fired by the shooter. No way to tell which one this is.
                                        3 - Your line is just slightly below the trajectory of the bullet

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        1 - Parallax error. The bottom of Trump's right ear isn't necessarily on that yellow line. You can't really gauge the width of Trump's head on any single picture. Would need a second angle of the same point in time. 
                                        2 - Multiple shots were fired by the shooter. No way to tell which one this is.
                                        3 - Your line is just slightly below the trajectory of the bullet

                                        Ok, whatever. But if you ask me, we are all being played for fools. Nobody notices a man climbing onto a building that overlooks the speech? A Secret Service sniper has eyes on the shooter but lets him squeeze of a couple of rounds before he kills him? Why wasn't that building secured? Guards around the building?

                                        I'm not playing into any conspiricies but even a blind man can tell something isn't right here.

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                                          @neo said:

                                          I don't care what any side says, I'm just going but what I saw. The side of Trump's head that supposedly got "grazed" was turned away from the camera. They showed a close up of his ear and it was bloody but intact. I don't think anybody is going to try to assassinate someone with a .22 a football field and a half distance away, and I don't think he was hit with a high caliber bullet or half of his head would be gone, or at least his ear would be gone. I think he got hit with shrapnal from a ricochet. Either way, how did the shooter manage to crawl up on a fucking roof overlooking the event and take a shot before anyone noticed him up there?

                                          I'm not listening to the news, I'm just going by what I saw and so far, shit doesn't add up.

                                          Please stop talking about things you don't understand. 

                                          .22 is not the same thing as .223 or 5.56, but they're just about the same diameter. The left is .22LR. The right is .223. The difference in diameter of the bullet is 0.001 inches. .223 is the most common ammunition for AR-15s, which are the most common long rifle in the country. The .223 round carries a lot more gunpowder, muzzle velocity is 2-3 times as fast, can be accurately fired by a skilled shooter out to 400 yards, but it is not a "high caliber" weapon by any means. 

                                          22LR vs 223 | Ballistics and Common Uses Compared

                                          "High caliber" weapons would be things like .300 blackout, 7.62, .30-06, .45, .50.

                                          Pin on Rifles

                                          Here is the sound of the vegas shooting from the crowd. The majority of his guns were chambered in .223. It sounds like a pop-gun in this too. Sounds similar to the Trump assassination attempt, to me.

                                          Just because bullets are capable of doing a lot of damage, it doesn't mean that they will. Trump was incredibly fortunate it only grazed his ear - he turned his head a split second before the shot. If it touched his skull, he would be in a neuro ICU or morgue right now. 

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                                          @vaportrail said:

                                          can be accurately fired by a skilled shooter out to 400 yards,

                                          But the shooter was 144 yards away with an AR style rifle and didn't land a kill shot. This guy was a fucking amateur at best. I guess that rules out a government hit.

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