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    QB Salary Cap Being Discussed

    This is just the most recent article I could find. Nothing will happen overnight, but owners will work towards something and the NFLPA will have its say. Maybe it will be structured similar to NBA Max and Super-Max Contracts.

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      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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      Something's gotta be done.  I mean, they put a QB cap in place for when players are drafted...but after the rookie contract it gets crazy.  

      Now having said that, if such a cap existed when we were trying to acquire Watson, and all three teams offered the max (Atlanta, Cleveland & New Orleans), would we have gotten Watson?  No.  He hates cold winter environments.  

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        I don't think it would pass legal challenge to have a positional salary cap on just one position.

        If you want qb salaries to take up less of the cap, raise the cap.  If not, teams are free to spend the cap as they see fit.

        Either way you won't be able to do anything about people already under contract.

        JMO...and I am correct.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          I don't think it would pass legal challenge to have a positional salary cap on just one position.

          If you want qb salaries to take up less of the cap, raise the cap.  If not, teams are free to spend the cap as they see fit.

          Either way you won't be able to do anything about people already under contract.

          JMO...and I am correct.

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          @ballpeen said:

          I don't think it would pass legal challenge to have a positional salary cap on just one position.

          If you want qb salaries to take up less of the cap, raise the cap.  If not, teams are free to spend the cap as they see fit.

          Either way you won't be able to do anything about people already under contract.

          JMO...and I am correct.

          I believe the reason the contracts have escalated so quickly is purely because it's expected the cap will go up.

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            Thought this would be the best thread to post. 

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              sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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              when did love get paid ?

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                when did love get paid ?

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                @syd said:

                when did love get paid ?

                Within the week I believe. 

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                  when did love get paid ?

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                  @syd said:

                  when did love get paid ?

                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Within the week I believe. 

                  Two days ago.

                  4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                  All on an 18 game sample size.

                  It's good to be QB1.

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                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                    crazy money

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                      @syd said:

                      when did love get paid ?

                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Within the week I believe. 

                      Two days ago.

                      4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                      All on an 18 game sample size.

                      It's good to be QB1.

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                      sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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                      @ap1 said:

                      Two days ago.

                      4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                      All on an 18 game sample size.

                      It's good to be QB1.

                      so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

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                        @ap1 said:

                        Two days ago.

                        4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                        All on an 18 game sample size.

                        It's good to be QB1.

                        so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

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                        @syd said:

                        so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

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                          @ap1 said:

                          Two days ago.

                          4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                          All on an 18 game sample size.

                          It's good to be QB1.

                          so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @syd said:

                          so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

                          Watson's contract was a five year deal... Love's is only four.

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                            Two days ago.

                            4 years, $220M, $155M Guaranteed, $75M Signing Bonus 

                            All on an 18 game sample size.

                            It's good to be QB1.

                            so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                            @syd said:

                            so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

                            The deal is guaranteed money for QB's is bogus.  None of those guys are going to get cut from their contracts. They will earn the whole contract.

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              Here are updated rankings from overthecap.com...

                              Just gross numbers, no idea of guarantees, or what's left.

                              25% of QB1s over $50M.

                              50% of QB1s over $40M.

                              63% of QB1s over $25M.

                              Zero between $12.5M and $25M.

                              $25M a year now feels like am absolute steal.

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                                @syd said:

                                so including his bonus that is 230 million guaranteed just 10 less than Watson

                                The deal is guaranteed money for QB's is bogus.  None of those guys are going to get cut from their contracts. They will earn the whole contract.

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                                @ballpeen said:

                                The deal is guaranteed money for QB's is bogus.  None of those guys are going to get cut from their contracts. They will earn the whole contract.

                                ...and how it can set a franchise back.

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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  The deal is guaranteed money for QB's is bogus.  None of those guys are going to get cut from their contracts. They will earn the whole contract.

                                  ...and how it can set a franchise back.

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                                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ap1 said:

                                  ...and how it can set a franchise back.

                                  Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

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                                    ...and how it can set a franchise back.

                                    Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

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                                    @orion said:

                                    Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

                                    Choose your poison...

                                    Money or Money and Draft Picks!!

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                                      ...and how it can set a franchise back.

                                      Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

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                                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                      @orion said:

                                      Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

                                      I suppose there is no way of knowing, and it might still be a year or two away from showing, but have we really missed the picks?  No doubt at least one of them would have been on a QB.  I think we have gotten enough value out of JOK, Dewand, and possibly Hall that we mitigated the loss of the 1st rounders.  That isn't even counting that Watson may finally be ready to be a very good QB at minimum.

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        @orion said:

                                        Well, yeah...if you do it the way we did it.  Or the Rams did it.  But if he was your draft pick you're going to have to sign him with big guaranteed money before or when his rookie contract is up....if you want to keep him.  We, of course, had to throw in three 1st round picks, which we're just now crawling out from under.

                                        I suppose there is no way of knowing, and it might still be a year or two away from showing, but have we really missed the picks?  No doubt at least one of them would have been on a QB.  I think we have gotten enough value out of JOK, Dewand, and possibly Hall that we mitigated the loss of the 1st rounders.  That isn't even counting that Watson may finally be ready to be a very good QB at minimum.

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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        Have we really missed the picks? 

                                        Very fair question. 

                                        Doesn't necessarily answer who was missed, but this is exactly what the Texans did with each pick.

                                        Texans' Draft Picks from the Browns

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                                          OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                          We mention the three 1st rounders and don't often mention the 3rd rounder and two 4ths that were part of the deal.  And in reality, it's those draft slots (and 2nd rounders) that we've been living off of since the trade...so, those are important picks that we didn't have also.

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