How many games will Watson last?
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Be careful. I get the DW hate but I wouldn't ever write that or say that out loud.
yeah, but booing and wanting him benched is valid.
EIGHT SACKS ? He plays like he doesn't give a damn about football. He has his money. A loser on and off the field.
Worst trade ever.
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns/deshaun-watson-calls-grow-bench-giants/
Calls Grow for Browns to Bench QB Deshaun Watson
yeah, but booing and wanting him benched is valid.
EIGHT SACKS ? He plays like he doesn't give a damn about football. He has his money. A loser on and off the field.
Worst trade ever.
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns/deshaun-watson-calls-grow-bench-giants/
Calls Grow for Browns to Bench QB Deshaun Watson
Berry shouldn't get a pass, unless Haslam put the DW order in (which it seems).
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I would bet that he plays all 17.
AGAIN, let me try to help you. The Browns FO is NEVER going to admit they made a mistake.
Dee Haslam will scream racism if they dare bench Watson. And Berry is never going to admit he made a $235 million mistake.
Watson is the guy.
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I've seen a lot of bad browns quarterbacks but I've never hoped for one to have their career ended by a permanent injury before deshuan watson.
Be careful. I get the DW hate but I wouldn't ever write that or say that out loud.
Be careful. I get the DW hate but I wouldn't ever write that or say that out loud.
The guy is an actual sexual predator that sucks at football and is making a guaranteed quarter billion dollars to be that. I'm not taking it back on his account.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I would bet that he plays all 17.
AGAIN, let me try to help you. The Browns FO is NEVER going to admit they made a mistake.
Dee Haslam will scream racism if they dare bench Watson. And Berry is never going to admit he made a $235 million mistake.
Watson is the guy.
I would bet that he plays all 17.
AGAIN, let me try to help you. The Browns FO is NEVER going to admit they made a mistake.
Dee Haslam will scream racism if they dare bench Watson. And Berry is never going to admit he made a $235 million mistake.
Watson is the guy.
So they'll flush yet anther season by Berry and Has-been refusing to admit they made one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the NFL bringing Watson on board.
I'll only bother posting this here. Watson sucked today. Period. Don't try putting lipstick on a pig Browns FO, I'm smarter than that . Watson no longer passes the eye test of what a franchise NFL QB looks like. A half beat slow, not recognizing he was about to get killed. 1\2 the time shitty accuracy on his passes.
If Denver could bite the bullet and say adios to Russell Wilson, the Browns should do the same with Watson. Today's game showed the Super Bowl aspirations of the Browns have been vastly overrated.
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DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
Good to hear from ya PoG!.. Hope all is well with ya...
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I would bet that he plays all 17.
AGAIN, let me try to help you. The Browns FO is NEVER going to admit they made a mistake.
Dee Haslam will scream racism if they dare bench Watson. And Berry is never going to admit he made a $235 million mistake.
Watson is the guy.
So they'll flush yet anther season by Berry and Has-been refusing to admit they made one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the NFL bringing Watson on board.
I'll only bother posting this here. Watson sucked today. Period. Don't try putting lipstick on a pig Browns FO, I'm smarter than that . Watson no longer passes the eye test of what a franchise NFL QB looks like. A half beat slow, not recognizing he was about to get killed. 1\2 the time shitty accuracy on his passes.
If Denver could bite the bullet and say adios to Russell Wilson, the Browns should do the same with Watson. Today's game showed the Super Bowl aspirations of the Browns have been vastly overrated.
So they'll flush yet anther season by Berry and Has-been refusing to admit they made one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the NFL bringing Watson on board.
I'll only bother posting this here. Watson sucked today. Period. Don't try putting lipstick on a pig Browns FO, I'm smarter than that . Watson no longer passes the eye test of what a franchise NFL QB looks like. A half beat slow, not recognizing he was about to get killed. 1\2 the time shitty accuracy on his passes.
If Denver could bite the bullet and say adios to Russell Wilson, the Browns should do the same with Watson. Today's game showed the Super Bowl aspirations of the Browns have been vastly overrated.
Larry, you know things are bad when we agree most of the time.
I have been posting on this very phenomenon. The Browns no longer make football decisions. Now decisions are about appearance, DEI, and everything but football.
Chubb is another fuck up. He isn't coming back to anything near his old self. The entire offense is on hold for a 8 year old RB with a destroyed knee.
Going in, I thought this was a 7 -10 caliber team and still see that.
Stefanski is garbage. He is Depodesta's coffee fetcher.
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I would bet that he plays all 17.
AGAIN, let me try to help you. The Browns FO is NEVER going to admit they made a mistake.
Dee Haslam will scream racism if they dare bench Watson. And Berry is never going to admit he made a $235 million mistake.
Watson is the guy.
So they'll flush yet anther season by Berry and Has-been refusing to admit they made one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the NFL bringing Watson on board.
I'll only bother posting this here. Watson sucked today. Period. Don't try putting lipstick on a pig Browns FO, I'm smarter than that . Watson no longer passes the eye test of what a franchise NFL QB looks like. A half beat slow, not recognizing he was about to get killed. 1\2 the time shitty accuracy on his passes.
If Denver could bite the bullet and say adios to Russell Wilson, the Browns should do the same with Watson. Today's game showed the Super Bowl aspirations of the Browns have been vastly overrated.
So they'll flush yet anther season by Berry and Has-been refusing to admit they made one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the NFL bringing Watson on board.
I'll only bother posting this here. Watson sucked today. Period. Don't try putting lipstick on a pig Browns FO, I'm smarter than that . Watson no longer passes the eye test of what a franchise NFL QB looks like. A half beat slow, not recognizing he was about to get killed. 1\2 the time shitty accuracy on his passes.
If Denver could bite the bullet and say adios to Russell Wilson, the Browns should do the same with Watson. Today's game showed the Super Bowl aspirations of the Browns have been vastly overrated.
Glad to see you still here Larry. There was speculation elsewhere you had left the board. That being said, I'm afraid this team looks like with Watson they are back to the bottom of the barrel dredging the top end of the draft for yet more draft mistakes. This is the worst team in our division and not by just a little either. Henry just dominated Dallas like they didn't even exist. His addition to the Ravens is doing just what I said it would do, make Jackson and the running game the best in the league. They are in position to control any game they are in now.
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The guy is an actual sexual predator that sucks at football and is making a guaranteed quarter billion dollars to be that. I'm not taking it back on his account.
I'm not asking you to do that.
Just beware of the bird crap that may land on your head today?
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DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
Great to hear from you.
Thankfully, Zomblow and Hoorta no longer shit all over this place, and people are again free to express themselves without bullshit bans and censorshop.
Talking about Baker for sure would have gotten you attacked by those two assholes.
The Browns deflated many fans in letting Baker go, but you should not feel bad because, it isn't a feeling caused by worship of a single player, it is because we have ownership who just does not understand the bond we have to this team. Getting rid of Mayfield was just another in a long line of stupid, disrespectful moves.
Regarding Chub; I feel they should have released him after he got hurt. The offense sits limp awaiting his return, and at 28, with his knee being exploded twice, there is no possibility of him returning with the same punch he once had.
I believe this will be his final season.
We will see.
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The more feminine members here rise up and bitch about living in the past talking about Mayfield, but have no problem living in the past when it comes to Paul Brown, the move, Belichik firing Kosar, or Warfield for Phipps.
The insult to injury is, Mayfield isn't in the past. He is in the present and while jism queens want to protest, the fact remains that this is a topic that the major sportscaster are talking about.
One of the resident homosexual posters suggest the Browns should have given him a Swan to play with. Reality is, a good coach settled the kid down.
Meanwhile we have a pervert QB who can't play for shit.
The more feminine members here rise up and bitch about living in the past talking about Mayfield, but have no problem living in the past when it comes to Paul Brown, the move, Belichik firing Kosar, or Warfield for Phipps.
The insult to injury is, Mayfield isn't in the past. He is in the present and while jism queens want to protest, the fact remains that this is a topic that the major sportscaster are talking about.
One of the resident homosexual posters suggest the Browns should have given him a Swan to play with. Reality is, a good coach settled the kid down.
Meanwhile we have a pervert QB who can't play for shit.
Didn't you spend the last season Mayfield was here shitting all over him? I'm pretty sure you did.
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DTR can't be worse than watching this guy shit in my cheerios every game he plays.
I don't know, after they screwed Baker Mayfield, something inside of me died. I barely follow along anymore.
I never thought it would happen... but I can't even stand Madden. I may be too far gone. Maybe it was all a dream...
but there's a whisper on the wind ~~~ it's saying something ~~~ it's saying chubb, yes! that's it, it's saying Nick Chubb.
Play DTR and let Chubb get back in there. I don't know how you could even think about a new stadium when the guys in charge can't even manage the football team correctly.
Let's trade Watson for a happy ending and rebuild the offense with somebody who is not washed up. It's a shame too because I could have watched Baker for the next 10 years win or lose and it wouldn't matter. I know he's somebody who understands the game, where to go with the ball, and will give us a chance, rain or shine. With Watson it's like I don't think it's he actually washed up but maybe more like he never had it. I think the team around him and his athletic ability were the perfect storm at that time in the NFL. Now he seems super vanilla. and not even with the vanilla bean specks, just walmart bucket vanilla... with a flimsy red handle and a little crack... and freezer burned...
I'm going to go with he's gone before the trade deadline. They'll eat his contract for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Ugh. What's Colt McCoy up to?
Great to hear from you.
Thankfully, Zomblow and Hoorta no longer shit all over this place, and people are again free to express themselves without bullshit bans and censorshop.
Talking about Baker for sure would have gotten you attacked by those two assholes.
The Browns deflated many fans in letting Baker go, but you should not feel bad because, it isn't a feeling caused by worship of a single player, it is because we have ownership who just does not understand the bond we have to this team. Getting rid of Mayfield was just another in a long line of stupid, disrespectful moves.
Regarding Chub; I feel they should have released him after he got hurt. The offense sits limp awaiting his return, and at 28, with his knee being exploded twice, there is no possibility of him returning with the same punch he once had.
I believe this will be his final season.
We will see.
Great to hear from you.
Thankfully, Zomblow and Hoorta no longer shit all over this place, and people are again free to express themselves without bullshit bans and censorshop.
Talking about Baker for sure would have gotten you attacked by those two assholes.
The Browns deflated many fans in letting Baker go, but you should not feel bad because, it isn't a feeling caused by worship of a single player, it is because we have ownership who just does not understand the bond we have to this team. Getting rid of Mayfield was just another in a long line of stupid, disrespectful moves.
Regarding Chub; I feel they should have released him after he got hurt. The offense sits limp awaiting his return, and at 28, with his knee being exploded twice, there is no possibility of him returning with the same punch he once had.
I believe this will be his final season.
We will see.
Looks like old Zomblo is still lurking- as you just got a kiddie timeout. As I alluded to in the other thread- No moderation eventually equals anarchy. As the way in the past USENET devolved into. BTW- I well remember we got Ghoolie a treasured "Kook of the Month" award along with the memorable posters Admiral Meowcat, and Copyright Flame Giant.
But I digress... Po, glad to see you again and another part of the reason I'm not posting much is I feel the same way as you do. Just lost my interest after 60+ years of watching crappy Browns football. I still have my season tickets, but I don't know for how much longer, the ever increasing extortion for them is pricing me out of the market. Taking the trip up to Cleveland to see the game live now costs at least $500 bucks- and yeah- to the goober who mocks me in that regard- that can buy a LOT of wine.
Now, regarding Baker- we've been down that road far too many times PO. He's one of the very few successful reclamation projects in the NFL. Needed to grow up after getting ditched by the Browns, and then the Panthers. Really... you don't think that the guy who had GF issues, and then seen swigging a 1.75 liter Don Julio straight out of the bottle at 7AM didn't have some problems? Yeah, I threw up a little when I checked his stats this year. But that ship has sailed, we've beat that dead horse too many times.
And regarding Chubb- I really do fear Ghoolie may be right about him. That's the second time he's had knee surgery, and the second one was even more extensive than the first one.
Finally- Watson had better start playing like the the franchise quarterback he's being paid to be, or it's going to be a LONG season. Terry Pluto wrote a schating review of the Giant's game... Hope it's not blocked... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2024/09/browns-offense-is-nearly-unwatchable-no-excuse-for-that-terry-pluto.html
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Great to hear from you.
Thankfully, Zomblow and Hoorta no longer shit all over this place, and people are again free to express themselves without bullshit bans and censorshop.
Talking about Baker for sure would have gotten you attacked by those two assholes.
The Browns deflated many fans in letting Baker go, but you should not feel bad because, it isn't a feeling caused by worship of a single player, it is because we have ownership who just does not understand the bond we have to this team. Getting rid of Mayfield was just another in a long line of stupid, disrespectful moves.
Regarding Chub; I feel they should have released him after he got hurt. The offense sits limp awaiting his return, and at 28, with his knee being exploded twice, there is no possibility of him returning with the same punch he once had.
I believe this will be his final season.
We will see.
Looks like old Zomblo is still lurking- as you just got a kiddie timeout. As I alluded to in the other thread- No moderation eventually equals anarchy. As the way in the past USENET devolved into. BTW- I well remember we got Ghoolie a treasured "Kook of the Month" award along with the memorable posters Admiral Meowcat, and Copyright Flame Giant.
But I digress... Po, glad to see you again and another part of the reason I'm not posting much is I feel the same way as you do. Just lost my interest after 60+ years of watching crappy Browns football. I still have my season tickets, but I don't know for how much longer, the ever increasing extortion for them is pricing me out of the market. Taking the trip up to Cleveland to see the game live now costs at least $500 bucks- and yeah- to the goober who mocks me in that regard- that can buy a LOT of wine.
Now, regarding Baker- we've been down that road far too many times PO. He's one of the very few successful reclamation projects in the NFL. Needed to grow up after getting ditched by the Browns, and then the Panthers. Really... you don't think that the guy who had GF issues, and then seen swigging a 1.75 liter Don Julio straight out of the bottle at 7AM didn't have some problems? Yeah, I threw up a little when I checked his stats this year. But that ship has sailed, we've beat that dead horse too many times.
And regarding Chubb- I really do fear Ghoolie may be right about him. That's the second time he's had knee surgery, and the second one was even more extensive than the first one.
Finally- Watson had better start playing like the the franchise quarterback he's being paid to be, or it's going to be a LONG season. Terry Pluto wrote a schating review of the Giant's game... Hope it's not blocked... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2024/09/browns-offense-is-nearly-unwatchable-no-excuse-for-that-terry-pluto.html
But I digress... Po, glad to see you again and another part of the reason I'm not posting much is I feel the same way as you do. Just lost my interest after 60+ years of watching crappy Browns football. I still have my season tickets, but I don't know for how much longer, the ever increasing extortion for them is pricing me out of the market. Taking the trip up to Cleveland to see the game live now costs at least $500 bucks- and yeah- to the goober who mocks me in that regard- that can buy a LOT of wine.
I can only imagine how much that trip would cost if they actually build the dome in Brookpark!?
Season ticket prices will be bananas.
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The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying. -
The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.
Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.
He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,
is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.
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The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.And as per usual... The Browns did it all wrong again..
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But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.
Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.
He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,
is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.
Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.
He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,
is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.
Purdy has a far better and intact OL. He has enough time back there to make soup from scratch. Our QB is lucky to even get 2 seconds with this poorly conceived and now replete with injuries sham of an OL.
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But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.
Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.
He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,
is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.
Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.
He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,
is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.
Not sure Purdy is a "star." Just a cat that benefits from being in Kyle Shanahan's offense.
I agree the Browns should draft and develop "their guy." But until then I am riding with Deshaun, in my somewhat slight support of the Browns
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The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.The #Browns are not the only team whose large investment at QB isn’t paying off. Here’s an NFL reality check for the QB position:
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Jaguars paid Trevor Lawrence $275M ($55M average), and they’re 0-8 in their last eight games.
Bengals paid Joe Burrow $275M ($55M average), and he’s finished 50% of his career on IR and the Bengals are 0-3 to start the season.
Dolphins and Packers both paid their QBs $55M/year and both QBs are currently injured and not playing.
Chargers paid Justin Herbert $52.5M/year just to hire a run-heavy coach. Plus, Herbert continues to suffer and potentially miss time with injuries.
Eagles paid Jalen Hurts $51M/year, and he’s been extremely hot and cold. Hurts is currently T-3rd most INTs in 2024.
Broncos traded 2 first-round picks, 2 seconds and more for Russell Wilson. They’re currently paying $53M for Wilson to be the backup QB in Pittsburgh.
49ers traded 3 first-round picks to get Trey Lance. He made 4 starts.
Panthers traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds and D.J. Moore for Bryce Young. He was benched after 2 games this season.
Going back further, Eagles paid Carson Wentz $32M/year for 4 years in 2019. He was replaced by Jalen Hurts less than 2 years later.
Rams paid Jared Goff $33.5M/year for 4 years in 2019. Two years later, they traded Goff and 2 first-round picks for Matthew Stafford.
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The bottom line is the QB position is the most important position in sports, and teams will do some pretty wild things at the mere chance of getting it right.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but when teams makes these decisions, they’re making their moves for the ultimate upside. More times than not, it doesn’t work the way they hoped.
But that doesn’t mean you quit trying.Injuries? A QB that is “extremely hot and cold” ?
Shit happens.This is a piece intended to make Browns fans agonizing over Watson sleep better at night.
The only one near the same level as the Browns debacle was Denver with Russell Wilson.
Except that Denver didn’t help build a Super Bowl contender in Houston .
Except that Denver didn’t take on a criminal inundated with legal matters who never wanted to be in Denver in the first place.
Yes, it doesn’t mean you quit trying. For this franchise this means not to quit trying being a respected organization, rather than continue being the most ridiculed franchise in the history of professional sports.
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