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Art Modell up for HOF

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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    Along with Robert Kraft and others.

    I, personally, don’t think Modell should be anywhere near the HOF. Not only did he fire Paul Brown and Bill Belichick, HE MOVED THE BROWNS. End of story

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41832320/robert-kraft-25-contributors-hof-consideration

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Fuck that guy.

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          just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

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            BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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            That scumbag belongs in hell not the hall of fame.

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              I bet he gets in after all the boomers like me are gone. These owners like to pay themselves on the back, and Art's MNF idea helped all the owner$ get rich. 

              If they induct him before 2040, they risk a bunch of old-timers burning down the HOF & the closest Bob Evans ( 4pm early bird dinner special)?

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                I bet he gets in after all the boomers like me are gone. These owners like to pay themselves on the back, and Art's MNF idea helped all the owner$ get rich. 

                If they induct him before 2040, they risk a bunch of old-timers burning down the HOF & the closest Bob Evans ( 4pm early bird dinner special)?

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                IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                @bob806 said:

                I bet he gets in after all the boomers like me are gone. These owners like to pay themselves on the back, and Art's MNF idea helped all the owner$ get rich. 

                If they induct him before 2040, they risk a bunch of old-timers burning down the HOF & the closest Bob Evans ( 4pm early bird dinner special)?

                I’m confident us Gen Xers will maintain that fight, we remember it vividly too. 

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                  @bob806 said:

                  I bet he gets in after all the boomers like me are gone. These owners like to pay themselves on the back, and Art's MNF idea helped all the owner$ get rich. 

                  If they induct him before 2040, they risk a bunch of old-timers burning down the HOF & the closest Bob Evans ( 4pm early bird dinner special)?

                  I’m confident us Gen Xers will maintain that fight, we remember it vividly too. 

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                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                  @ibleedbrown said:

                  I’m confident us Gen Xers will maintain that fight, we remember it vividly too. 

                  Yep.

                  Turned 20 during that last season at the Stadium. 

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                    just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

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                    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                    @syd said:

                    just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

                    If l’m being honest it was an internal struggle to decide if l’m ok with that or not. I ultimately decided that no, it’s not ok to shit on Art Modell’s grave.

                    But it was a process, and if you do decide to shit on Art Modell’s grave, l understand. 

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                      @syd said:

                      just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

                      If l’m being honest it was an internal struggle to decide if l’m ok with that or not. I ultimately decided that no, it’s not ok to shit on Art Modell’s grave.

                      But it was a process, and if you do decide to shit on Art Modell’s grave, l understand. 

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      @ibleedbrown said:

                      If l’m being honest it was an internal struggle to decide if l’m ok with that or not. I ultimately decided that no, it’s not ok to shit on Art Modell’s grave.

                      But it was a process, and if you do decide to shit on Art Modell’s grave, l understand. 

                      Like, I don't recommend it... but I'm not taking the offender off my Christmas card list either. 

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                        @ibleedbrown said:

                        If l’m being honest it was an internal struggle to decide if l’m ok with that or not. I ultimately decided that no, it’s not ok to shit on Art Modell’s grave.

                        But it was a process, and if you do decide to shit on Art Modell’s grave, l understand. 

                        Like, I don't recommend it... but I'm not taking the offender off my Christmas card list either. 

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                        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        Like, I don't recommend it... but I'm not taking the offender off my Christmas card list either. 

                        Jesus understands.

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                          It wasn’t just the move to Baltimore, it was what resulted after the move that makes fans pissed at Art.

                          His decision turned a proud and storied franchise into pro sports biggest laughing stock. The only “story” anyone has known is the one since 1999. That’s 26 years of mostly garbage .

                          He shoulda took the name and colors . As perennial winners with 2 Super Bowl titles, the Baltimore Browns  would have at least continued to preserve the Browns tradition. 

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                            @ibleedbrown said:

                            I’m confident us Gen Xers will maintain that fight, we remember it vividly too. 

                            Yep.

                            Turned 20 during that last season at the Stadium. 

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                            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Yep.

                            Turned 20 during that last season at the Stadium. 

                            I turned 25. It was 1995, correct?  My memory isn’t what it used to be.  ?

                            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                              It wasn’t just the move to Baltimore, it was what resulted after the move that makes fans pissed at Art.

                              His decision turned a proud and storied franchise into pro sports biggest laughing stock. The only “story” anyone has known is the one since 1999. That’s 26 years of mostly garbage .

                              He shoulda took the name and colors . As perennial winners with 2 Super Bowl titles, the Baltimore Browns  would have at least continued to preserve the Browns tradition. 

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                              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                              @fy56 said:

                              It wasn’t just the move to Baltimore, it was what resulted after the move that makes fans pissed at Art.

                              His decision turned a proud and storied franchise into pro sports biggest laughing stock. The only “story” anyone has known is the one since 1999. That’s 26 years of mostly garbage .

                              He shoulda took the name and colors . As perennial winners with 2 Super Bowl titles, the Baltimore Browns  would have at least continued to preserve the Browns tradition. 

                              I agree. We should’ve got an entire new team. Name, colors, and everything 

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

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                                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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                                @syd said:

                                just please no more defecating on his grave, that was fucked up

                                When I read the story, I googled where he was buried. It’s in Baltimore, of course. If it was in Cleveland, they would’ve moved it by now. 
                                I’m not driving 5.5 hours to take a leak, but if I’m ever in Baltimore………

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  Yep.

                                  Turned 20 during that last season at the Stadium. 

                                  I turned 25. It was 1995, correct?  My memory isn’t what it used to be.  ?

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                                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  I turned 25. It was 1995, correct?  My memory isn’t what it used to be.  ?

                                  Yes sir...

                                  I don't remember exactly when the news came out that the Browns were leaving, but it had to be about the same time that the Indians were going to their first World Series in 41 years. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Like, I don't recommend it... but I'm not taking the offender off my Christmas card list either. 

                                    Jesus understands.

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                                    @ibleedbrown said:

                                    Jesus understands.

                                    Jesus, I like him very much.

                                    But he no help me hit curveball... 

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                                      @ibleedbrown said:

                                      Jesus understands.

                                      Jesus, I like him very much.

                                      But he no help me hit curveball... 

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      Jesus, I like him very much.

                                      But he no help me hit curveball... 

                                      are you telling me Jesus can’t hit a curveball? 

                                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                        Given the dichotomy of the situation, I'm surprised a documentary hasn't been made about the Cleveland fan base riding the highest of highs and the lowest of lows at the same time.

                                        As the pre-season started many predicted the Browns to be a Super Bowl contender. They started 3-1, while the Indians were finishing the regular season. By that time, I believe Lerner had already met with Baltimore sports authorities AND, maybe, by that time, Modell, Lerner and the Baltimore sports authorities had met in NY.

                                        The Baltimore sports authorities tried to hold Modell's feet to the fire because they'd been burned by Mike Brown the year prior. Brown used that leverage to get PBS built in Cincy.

                                        I'm not sure when Modell spilled the beans to the NFL. I believe Carmen Policy tried to work with the Rooneys and the NFL to keep the team from moving.

                                        The Browns went from 3-1 to 3-4 in three weeks so, internally, they'd already been falling apart because of the upheaval. I don't recall when I first started hearing about the possibility of the move, but the Indians swept the Red Sox in the ALDS. Then came that magical ALCS against the Mariners, which, at one point they were down 1-2 in the series.

                                        The World Series was the third week of October. Modell formally announced the move on November 6th. The only time I ever saw my Dad cry.

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Jesus, I like him very much.

                                          But he no help me hit curveball... 

                                          are you telling me Jesus can’t hit a curveball? 

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                                          @browns149 said:

                                          are you telling me Jesus can’t hit a curveball? 

                                          For my money, the greatest line in American cinema history 

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