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  • With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    Wills is just another on the long list of first round flops, imagine if we took Wirfs instead. 

  • @axe said:

    I feel like this shit is all my fault.. I bought the ticket so I could see my Browns.. Shit immediately went due south ??

    I'm sorry fellas,, I just wanted to see my Browns..🙁

    As a Bucs/Browns fan, I lived thru Winston's tenure with the Bucs..  Careful what ya wish for, you just might get it....

    Don'tcha kind of think it's Lucy Browns funny that the one decent QB they trotted out there recently went to Indy and helped them win this season. And with 34 against the Jags they should have won that one too, but the D let them down.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Don'tcha kind of think it's Lucy Browns funny that the one decent QB they trotted out there recently went to Indy and helped them win this season. And with 34 against the Jags they should have won that one too, but the D let them down.

    The irony is the Jets are a lot like the Browns in the sense that everything they bring there - they ruin.  That offensive line that was supposed to protect Aaron Rodgers last year, lasted just just few plays (he was hurried in) until the achilles tore. This year their defensive minded HC was the scapegoat for an OL they barely upgraded, if at all.

    It just seems like some organizations forget "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail."  Look at OUR freaking OL and that of the Jets.  Understanding Conklin is NEVER healthy - they extended him heading into last season where he almost lasted 1 game.  This year, he finally started playing last week.  And then of course there's LT Jed Wills that gave up multiple sacks and QB pressures to Hendrickson yesterday, which is the one way he provides consistency  unfortunately. This organization gave Wills absolute entitlement since day 1 so he's never been pushed to work. 

    Hard to watch this and wonder wtf the owner, FO and the Coaches are doing. How many times can the offense get flagged for illegal formations/motions and false starts?  And, there wasn't anything special about our Special Teams yesterday giving up 1 KO return for a TD, 1 missed PAT and 1 missed FG.  Again, "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail." 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    Wills is just another on the long list of first round flops, imagine if we took Wirfs instead. 

    @bbedward said:

    Wills is just another on the long list of first round flops, imagine if we took Wirfs instead. 

    BINGO - and he's already got 1 Pro Bowl as a LT (working on the next) after acing the gig at RT.

  • With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    We're all gluttons for punishment!

  • A AP1

    @dutch-oven said:

    With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    We're all gluttons for punishment!

    @ap1 said:

    We're all gluttons for punishment!

    Not only will I be tuning in to this shit show the rest of the season, I’m actually looking forward to going to a game in person. Not that I think it’s going to be entertaining ON the field, but in the stands.

  • @mddawg said:

    Special teams continues to suck this year.

    Yeah, we don't hear anyone singing praises to Bubba Ventrone anymore.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, we don't hear anyone singing praises to Bubba Ventrone anymore.

    You had to know the game was pretty much over after one play when they allowed a white dude to run back a kickoff. ?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    With Watson gone for the season, I'm not sure what some of you will ever talk about on here now? ?

    And holy tap dancin' Jesus, Jed Wills is an absolute embarrassment. 

    The Bataan Death March of Browns football seasons trudges on.... 

    Wills is just another on the long list of first round flops, imagine if we took Wirfs instead. 

    @bbedward said:

    Wills is just another on the long list of first round flops, imagine if we took Wirfs instead. 

    “Imagine If” is the official 1999-2024 Cleveland Browns mantra.

  • The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

  • The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at in whatever setting it is.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    No one cares.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Maybe call Ryan Tannehill and see what he’s doing next Sunday?

    FWIW, Vinny Testaverde is probably only 61 years old.  The not re-signing Joe Flacco because they were more worried about Watson's feelings is something I'll always remember this organization by.  I think I just saw the Colts are 4-3; and he's a pretty big reason for the improvement...

    @flugel said:

    FWIW, Vinny Testaverde is probably only 61 years old.  The not re-signing Joe Flacco because they were more worried about Watson's feelings is something I'll always remember this organization by.  I think I just saw the Colts are 4-3; and he's a pretty big reason for the improvement...

    The Colts have their own starting QB problem. Flacco threw 7 TDs and 1 INT in three games (sound familiar?). They went back to Anthony Richardson. Ownership/FO doesn't want to admit that in just his second season Richardson is probably not the answer.

  • The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at in whatever setting it is.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    Just to reiterate- no one cares. I cannot imagine the life of someone who goes to another teams football fan forum to try and talk garbage. As Buzz Lightyear famously said "You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity".

  • The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at in whatever setting it is.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    BROWNS FANS VS THE WORLD!!!

    Happy to know you're so in tune.

  • The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    This guy reminds me of Woody for some reason.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Don'tcha kind of think it's Lucy Browns funny that the one decent QB they trotted out there recently went to Indy and helped them win this season. And with 34 against the Jags they should have won that one too, but the D let them down.

    The irony is the Jets are a lot like the Browns in the sense that everything they bring there - they ruin.  That offensive line that was supposed to protect Aaron Rodgers last year, lasted just just few plays (he was hurried in) until the achilles tore. This year their defensive minded HC was the scapegoat for an OL they barely upgraded, if at all.

    It just seems like some organizations forget "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail."  Look at OUR freaking OL and that of the Jets.  Understanding Conklin is NEVER healthy - they extended him heading into last season where he almost lasted 1 game.  This year, he finally started playing last week.  And then of course there's LT Jed Wills that gave up multiple sacks and QB pressures to Hendrickson yesterday, which is the one way he provides consistency  unfortunately. This organization gave Wills absolute entitlement since day 1 so he's never been pushed to work. 

    Hard to watch this and wonder wtf the owner, FO and the Coaches are doing. How many times can the offense get flagged for illegal formations/motions and false starts?  And, there wasn't anything special about our Special Teams yesterday giving up 1 KO return for a TD, 1 missed PAT and 1 missed FG.  Again, "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail." 

    @flugel said:

    The irony is the Jets are a lot like the Browns in the sense that everything they bring there - they ruin.  That offensive line that was supposed to protect Aaron Rodgers last year, lasted just just few plays (he was hurried in) until the achilles tore. This year their defensive minded HC was the scapegoat for an OL they barely upgraded, if at all.

    It just seems like some organizations forget "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail."  Look at OUR freaking OL and that of the Jets.  Understanding Conklin is NEVER healthy - they extended him heading into last season where he almost lasted 1 game.  This year, he finally started playing last week.  And then of course there's LT Jed Wills that gave up multiple sacks and QB pressures to Hendrickson yesterday, which is the one way he provides consistency  unfortunately. This organization gave Wills absolute entitlement since day 1 so he's never been pushed to work. 

    Hard to watch this and wonder wtf the owner, FO and the Coaches are doing. How many times can the offense get flagged for illegal formations/motions and false starts?  And, there wasn't anything special about our Special Teams yesterday giving up 1 KO return for a TD, 1 missed PAT and 1 missed FG.  Again, "if you fail to prepare; then you should prepare to fail." 

    I hear she's expanding her practice to healing almost never here Brown's players.

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    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at in whatever setting it is.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    BROWNS FANS VS THE WORLD!!!

    Happy to know you're so in tune.

    @ap1 said:

    BROWNS FANS VS THE WORLD!!!

    Happy to know you're so in tune.

    That is fine. And I was speaking for fan bases around the NFL. No, I didn't get the feelings of 31 fan bases. But 7 is enough of a sample size to make the statement.

    It's not from me personally, but I do feel cheering the fact a player is severely injured is beyond the pale.

    I don't agree with Myles Garrett saying he has always been a model citizen. But the outside of football stuff is not why there was cheering when a human being was severely injured.

  • @ap1 said:

    BROWNS FANS VS THE WORLD!!!

    Happy to know you're so in tune.

    That is fine. And I was speaking for fan bases around the NFL. No, I didn't get the feelings of 31 fan bases. But 7 is enough of a sample size to make the statement.

    It's not from me personally, but I do feel cheering the fact a player is severely injured is beyond the pale.

    I don't agree with Myles Garrett saying he has always been a model citizen. But the outside of football stuff is not why there was cheering when a human being was severely injured.

    @packernation said:

    It's not from me personally, but I do feel cheering the fact a player is severely injured is beyond the pale.

    I don't agree with Myles Garrett saying he has always been a model citizen. But the outside of football stuff is not why there was cheering when a human being was severely injured.

    I'll not re-hash all of the reasons Browns fans are so scorned, and I won't act like it hasn't happened to other fan bases. I loathe victim-based mentality and I do not indulge in the-woe-is-me chase to the bottom that has overtaken our culture. 

    Many thought this would be a special season, yours truly, included. Instead, the exact opposite has happened and the waters are starting to swirl the way they did in 2016. Something we, as Browns fans, all thought was in the past.

    The owner has (FAILINGLY) tried to turn this franchise around. He thought wins, AFCN Division Titles, playing in AFC Championship Games and Super Bowls could mask signing a man with a checkered past off the field.

    It didn't work. This was the opportunity of the fanbase, in person, to show Jimmy Haslam, to his face, how fed up they are with the way he runs this organization. I hope Jimmy was listening. 

  • JaxJ Jax

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    This guy reminds me of Woody for some reason.

    @jax said:

    This guy reminds me of Woody for some reason.

    Packer Nation argues with nimrods on another forum here too?

  • I can’t help but wonder if Watson’s heel had been feeling tender all season? He looked markedly less athletic this year when scrambling and running. 

  • JaxJ Jax

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    This guy reminds me of Woody for some reason.

    @jax said:

    This guy reminds me of Woody for some reason.

    Poor Woody is still trying to figure out why there's Ohio State football fans on the college football forum...  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Maybe call Ryan Tannehill and see what he’s doing next Sunday?

    FWIW, Vinny Testaverde is probably only 61 years old.  The not re-signing Joe Flacco because they were more worried about Watson's feelings is something I'll always remember this organization by.  I think I just saw the Colts are 4-3; and he's a pretty big reason for the improvement...

    @flugel said:

    FWIW, Vinny Testaverde is probably only 61 years old.  The not re-signing Joe Flacco because they were more worried about Watson's feelings is something I'll always remember this organization by.  I think I just saw the Colts are 4-3; and he's a pretty big reason for the improvement...

    Tannehill was the only serviceable QB drinking beer and watching the NFL from his couch. I figured if we could only catch lightning in a bottle again.

    @packernation said:

    The following is the opinion of the other fan bases around the league. Cleveland fans are an embarrassment to all football fans. If you had any respect left at all, that is now gone.

    Browns fans can spin it any way they want. It's disgusting and will be a black stain on the franchise until the end of time.

    A players past or whatever you feel about a player does not matter when ANY player is severely injured. A man on a cart and injured is not someone you boo and throw beers at and cheer he is injured.

    You can claim the booing was because of the sexual assault charges, that is bullshit and you know it. It was because you feel for the money he makes he should play better. Poor you. Browns fans are entitled to nothing from him or any other player.

    Wake up and realize that the whole league has zero respect for Browns fans and will NEVER again.

    The end.

    Who in the fuck are you trying to chastise a bunch of disgruntled Browns fans? Go eat a bag of dicks.

    @flugel said:

    Poor Woody is still trying to figure out why there's Ohio State football fans on the college football forum...  

    He’s probably on a bridge somewhere looking to jump while wearing his “We’re Not Cheaters” T-shirt.