Sam Bradford Cleveland 2010
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Rough patches? Please, he didn't belong starting in that 2nd half. The Jets have personal on offense, we can only wish we had.
Did you not also see his ability to scramble outside and make the throws, make big throws and even receive off of a Washington throw? This is promise and innovative play calling. Something the Browns do not have in the current coaching staff or either QB.
Did you not also see his ability to scramble outside and make the throws, make big throws and even receive off of a Washington throw? This is promise and innovative play calling. Something the Browns do not have in the current coaching staff or either QB.
Come on man, so he scrambled outside and made a throw. Did you also look at him staring down recievers. Really the Titans should be ashamed for not picking him off more than once. Listen, if Sanchez never becomes a star QB and just "serviceable", the Browns had every right to pass on him.
This fan base is so desperate, they will believe in anything.
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Unless you have the coaching and front office behind building a winner no one can help. Mark Sanchez would be a failure in this organization.
Unless you have the coaching and front office behind building a winner no one can help. Mark Sanchez would be a failure in this organization.
So would the Mannings, Brady, McNabb & just about every HOF'er in Canton.
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Did you not also see his ability to scramble outside and make the throws, make big throws and even receive off of a Washington throw? This is promise and innovative play calling. Something the Browns do not have in the current coaching staff or either QB.
Come on man, so he scrambled outside and made a throw. Did you also look at him staring down recievers. Really the Titans should be ashamed for not picking him off more than once. Listen, if Sanchez never becomes a star QB and just "serviceable", the Browns had every right to pass on him.
This fan base is so desperate, they will believe in anything.
Come on man, so he scrambled outside and made a throw. Did you also look at him staring down recievers. Really the Titans should be ashamed for not picking him off more than once. Listen, if Sanchez never becomes a star QB and just "serviceable", the Browns had every right to pass on him.
This fan base is so desperate, they will believe in anything.
Yeah, he stared them down so much he must have hypnotized the Titans defenders on his two touchdown passes. LOL. You're delusional, but if that makes you feel better by passing on a franchise quarterback in the draft, dream on.
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Come on man, so he scrambled outside and made a throw. Did you also look at him staring down recievers. Really the Titans should be ashamed for not picking him off more than once. Listen, if Sanchez never becomes a star QB and just "serviceable", the Browns had every right to pass on him.
This fan base is so desperate, they will believe in anything.
Yeah, he stared them down so much he must have hypnotized the Titans defenders on his two touchdown passes. LOL. You're delusional, but if that makes you feel better by passing on a franchise quarterback in the draft, dream on.
Yeah, he stared them down so much he must have hypnotized the Titans defenders on his two touchdown passes. LOL. You're delusional, but if that makes you feel better by passing on a franchise quarterback in the draft, dream on.
ROLF!!! TD passes? Yeah, how about his 8/17 1int sheetfest in the 2nd half. Should have been more.
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Yeah, he stared them down so much he must have hypnotized the Titans defenders on his two touchdown passes. LOL. You're delusional, but if that makes you feel better by passing on a franchise quarterback in the draft, dream on.
ROLF!!! TD passes? Yeah, how about his 8/17 1int sheetfest in the 2nd half. Should have been more.
ROLF!!! TD passes? Yeah, how about his 8/17 1int sheetfest in the 2nd half. Should have been more.
Yeah, right, a meaningless INT and a clutch TD pass. I know you don't appreciate that stuff since it's been ages since you've seen anyone do that for the Browns. Face it, Mangini screwed yer Brownies up by passing on Sanchez. Have a nice five years recovering from that one.
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@shepwrite said:
Browns need a lot, but when you need a quarterback, it shoots to #1.Trading down and getting a center, Veikune, and some average defenders doesn't look so good now with Sanchez 3-0 and looking like a veteran already. I honestly think ManKok would like that one back. They were seriously interested. They should've made the Broncos trade for Quinn.
We need so much, you have to look at trading down if you don't love a quarterback.
I agree....we need a qb. If there is one to be had the staff wants to hang their hat on or or be hanged by.....go for it.
I do think mangini doesn't want to put his future ijn to the hadds of any of the qbs on this roster.
While Sanchez does look like the obvious pick last year, we did sit on Quinn, and we do know how people we claiming he needed a shot and we needed to know what we had.
Well now we know..but at this point i can't blame Mangini/Kokinis for not going QB last draft.
You have to admit that had we drafted a QB, the MASSES WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY IRRITATED, so being irritated now is self serving.
JMO.
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@shepwrite said:
Browns need a lot, but when you need a quarterback, it shoots to #1.Trading down and getting a center, Veikune, and some average defenders doesn't look so good now with Sanchez 3-0 and looking like a veteran already. I honestly think ManKok would like that one back. They were seriously interested. They should've made the Broncos trade for Quinn.
We need so much, you have to look at trading down if you don't love a quarterback.
I agree....we need a qb. If there is one to be had the staff wants to hang their hat on or or be hanged by.....go for it.
I do think mangini doesn't want to put his future ijn to the hadds of any of the qbs on this roster.
While Sanchez does look like the obvious pick last year, we did sit on Quinn, and we do know how people we claiming he needed a shot and we needed to know what we had.
Well now we know..but at this point i can't blame Mangini/Kokinis for not going QB last draft.
You have to admit that had we drafted a QB, the MASSES WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY IRRITATED, so being irritated now is self serving.
JMO.
I agree....we need a qb. If there is one to be had the staff wants to hang their hat on or or be hanged by.....go for it.
I do think mangini doesn't want to put his future ijn to the hadds of any of the qbs on this roster.
While Sanchez does look like the obvious pick last year, we did sit on Quinn, and we do know how people we claiming he needed a shot and we needed to know what we had.
Well now we know..but at this point i can't blame Mangini/Kokinis for not going QB last draft.
You have to admit that had we drafted a QB, the MASSES WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY IRRITATED, so being irritated now is self serving.
JMO.
Mangini is a clown. The only reason I frequent these boards is because I knew I would enjoy watching him repeat his clown act in front of an unsuspecting audience. The guy is a disaster from top to bottom--he can't manage games, can't motivate players, he makes stupid draft day and personnel decisions and to top it all of his weird obsession with secrecy will, if it has not already, become a huge distraction to the entire team. He screwed the Jets practically from day one by not drafting Cutler. Now he's done the same favor for you. Insiders say he has a good mind for football strategy. Maybe he should go write a book. I grew to despise him during the three years he was with the Jets and could not believe he got hired again. I sort of feel sorry for you all. Did I mention I can't stand the guy?
Oh, and Sanchez is the real deal
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I would go with Dwyer, Best, Suh, or Berry.
Bradford is the next Tim Couch.
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bradford may not come out i don't think he is a senior, we need a stud RB or Berry
bradford may not come out i don't think he is a senior, we need a stud RB or Berry
If there was a chance you would got to Cleveland, would you?
Shit, watch EVERYONE this year try and find another year of elgibility, or just not enter the draft.
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Walter football has us taking Jimmy Clausen. Weis knows his QB's, I see nothing going wrong here.
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Rough patches? Please, he didn't belong starting in that 2nd half. The Jets have personal on offense, we can only wish we had.
The Browns have a better receiving group(well, WOULD if Edwards and Furrey started instead of Edwards and Cribbs), but Sanchez makes the Jets WRs better, if he was throwing to B.Edwards, Sanchez would look even better.
but as for everything else sans the WRs, you're right. BTW it's personnel, not personal.
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Week 3 and we are already looking forward to the draft. It's pathetic but true based on the number of posts in this thread. As long as the Lerner's keep unproven nfl head coaches such i.e. Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Romeo, and now Mangini....We WILL LOSE. From the beginning I was vocal in wanting Brian Asshole as the Browns coach because not only do his teams have great defenses, he has won the big game (Super Bowl), is familiar with the AFC north, and is familiar with Jamal Lewis and Derrick Anderson.
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FSN showed a Bearcats/ Fresno game tonight, pretty interesting stuff.
Tony Pike looked fantastic, he could hit the short and mid ranged passes flawlessly and threw well on the move. He had a few deep strikes on the money as well, definitely looked better than anything we've fielded the last 10 seasons.
He has a nice arm and throws a high rpm ball with little wobble, extremely catchable. It looks like laser shots on anything within the 20 yard mark, bullets that don't drop and are just there.
He's got a nice release, not the fastest I've seen but no where near the slowest, it's very quick and would translate well to the NFL.
18/26 for 300 yards and 3 tds, great performance.
Some of his nicest passes were in the 8-13 yard range, receiver slants and te plays.
BIG PLUS
On 3rd downs he made sure he threw PAST the first down marker.
On an off note, while probably not an NFL caliber back Isaiah Pead had some nice touches even though his total yards didn't show it, Fresno played most of the game with 8 in the box so the Bearcats just passed all day.
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I'm a Cincinnati Grad and I've watched Tony Pike the last two years. This guy can play in the NFL. I'd love to see him in an orange helmet.
I watched him last week against Oregon State. He was very very efficient. He's got a shot at playing.
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Walter football has us taking Jimmy Clausen. Weis knows his QB's, I see nothing going wrong here.
Walter football has us taking Jimmy Clausen.
notre dame football players have the highest graduation rate among all 1-a schools at around 95%. white players greaduate 100% of the time and black kids are at 90%. clausen is staying. on a side note: ohio state ha the lowest rate of graduation at 33%. way to go jimmy t.
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I like Jake Lockers skill set, but I think he needs one more year of college before going to the NFL.
I like Jake Lockers skill set, but I think he needs one more year of college before going to the NFL.
Didn't catch the Stanford game, but his stat line (16/31, 191 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT) suggests you're right about him needing another year.
You're also right about him possessing an intriguing skill set.
He'll likely be a top ten pick in 2011.
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I like Pike!
So next draft we need a safety, qb, rt, rg in the first 4 rounds.
whoopie we're screwed!
I like Pike!
I'm a Cincinnati Grad and I've watched Tony Pike the last two years. This guy can play in the NFL. I'd love to see him in an orange helmet.
I watched him last week against Oregon State. He was very very efficient. He's got a shot at playing.
I like him as well...
Me too.
Pike's a guy I'm watching very closely. Still need to see him tear apart a good defense, which could happen Oct. 15 against USF. But he's shown a lot of poise in some semi-tough road games this year.
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