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Is Mangini Good Enough ?

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  • Vegasdogg V
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    V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
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    TEAM STATS

    Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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      The browns are owned by a quack and run by the idiots they hired over the years...the city of cleveland needs to grow some balls and either sue lerner for the poor product he has repeatedly sold the city or sue him for the rights of the team i think the team would fare better under a city manager than it does under the current owner...

      If nothing gets done there will be only a handful of browns fans left in cleveland itself...

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @gips said:

      The browns are owned by a quack and run by the idiots they hired over the years...the city of cleveland needs to grow some balls and either sue lerner for the poor product he has repeatedly sold the city or sue him for the rights of the team i think the team would fare better under a city manager than it does under the current owner...

      If nothing gets done there will be only a handful of browns fans left in cleveland itself...

      Go fukc yourself dickhead.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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        Look no further than the NY Jets to see what Mangini Built in 3 years. .. I think we will be happy in 3 years if we get a team that plays like that.. Ok It may take 4 or 5 cuz he did have a few players when he got there..but I believe he knows how to build a good team....

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        • BrownIndian BrownIndianB
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          BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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          If Mangini truly built the NY JEts then the fans wont be too happy to see him fired. Mangini went to the playoffs with a team built by Herm edwards and an easy schedule. then he went 4 - 12, the next season was better but they spent shit loads of money on Quality free agents. He was never proven to be a top notch coach. And i think the results are showing now....

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            If Mangini truly built the NY JEts then the fans wont be too happy to see him fired. Mangini went to the playoffs with a team built by Herm edwards and an easy schedule. then he went 4 - 12, the next season was better but they spent shit loads of money on Quality free agents. He was never proven to be a top notch coach. And i think the results are showing now....

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            R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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            @brownindian said:

            If Mangini truly built the NY JEts then the fans wont be too happy to see him fired. Mangini went to the playoffs with a team built by Herm edwards and an easy schedule. then he went 4 - 12, the next season was better but they spent shit loads of money on Quality free agents. He was never proven to be a top notch coach. And i think the results are showing now....

            Wrong, Herm left the mess, Mangini cleaned it up. Of course they spent a "shitload" on FA. It was year 3. They just got years 1 and 2 backwords. He outright built their OL.

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              @brownindian said:

              If Mangini truly built the NY JEts then the fans wont be too happy to see him fired. Mangini went to the playoffs with a team built by Herm edwards and an easy schedule. then he went 4 - 12, the next season was better but they spent shit loads of money on Quality free agents. He was never proven to be a top notch coach. And i think the results are showing now....

              Wrong, Herm left the mess, Mangini cleaned it up. Of course they spent a "shitload" on FA. It was year 3. They just got years 1 and 2 backwords. He outright built their OL.

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              BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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              @restinpeace said:

              Wrong, Herm left the mess, Mangini cleaned it up. Of course they spent a "shitload" on FA. It was year 3. They just got years 1 and 2 backwords. He outright built their OL.

              you could be true, but the Jets fans think otherwise.

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              • GipsG Gips

                The browns are owned by a quack and run by the idiots they hired over the years...the city of cleveland needs to grow some balls and either sue lerner for the poor product he has repeatedly sold the city or sue him for the rights of the team i think the team would fare better under a city manager than it does under the current owner...

                If nothing gets done there will be only a handful of browns fans left in cleveland itself...

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                S Squintz wrote on last edited by
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                @gips said:

                The browns are owned by a quack and run by the idiots they hired over the years...the city of cleveland needs to grow some balls and either sue lerner for the poor product he has repeatedly sold the city or sue him for the rights of the team i think the team would fare better under a city manager than it does under the current owner...

                If nothing gets done there will be only a handful of browns fans left in cleveland itself...

                There is one common denominator since '99 - that a Lerner has owned this franchise. Until he sells this team is doomed.

                And if we're looking to have a city manager run the team, I'm sure my daughter's 3rd grade teacher could run it better than them.....!

                CHANGE IS GOOD
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                • V Vegasdogg

                  TEAM STATS

                  Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

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                  A Alo wrote on last edited by
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                  @vegasdogg said:

                  TEAM STATS

                  Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

                  Holy sh*t. Those stats are beyond awful.

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                  • V Vegasdogg

                    TEAM STATS

                    Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

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                    next2nothingN next2nothing wrote on last edited by
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                    @vegasdogg said:

                    TEAM STATS

                    Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

                    I love my team but damn... that is horrible...

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                      @vegasdogg said:

                      TEAM STATS

                      Take a look at the stats in that link. A lot of this is coaching.

                      I love my team but damn... that is horrible...

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                      @next2nothing said:

                      I love my team but damn... that is horrible...

                      No rushing TDs?

                      -7 TO ratio after 3 games?

                      Averaging LESS THAN 10 points a game???

                      It can only get better, right?

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                        T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by Tobalaz
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                        Herm took over a team Parcels built, didn't do much with it, EM took over Herm's team, added a few guys, had one good season and all of a sudden he's a genius?

                        Herm kept that team pretty competitive until he let the oline fall apart, then Pennington couldn't stay healthy and they started loosing like crazy. The weapons and the qb were already there.

                        Face it, Learner picked another dud and we're going to watch a pathetic excuse for a team 3 more seasons, EM gets canned and then we get to "rebuild" again. Then, we're asked to be "good" fans and deal with it for another 3 seasons till we can that chump too to start over again.

                        "Rebuild", ironic term isn't it considering we never got built in the first place?

                        We've sucked ass hard and in the darkest hours we took local product QBs and threw them under the bus to keep up the fan base. It's starting to look like Learner could give a rat's ass with fielding a competitive team so long as he makes his money.

                        He'd probably be wrecking his soccer team as well right now if they hadn't already had a good staff in place.

                        3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                          BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                          http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200667

                          http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200591

                          http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200243

                          Not too many fans miss him, i say ..

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                            D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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                            IMHO Mangini will ge the job done here

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                              D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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                              IMHO Mangini will ge the job done here

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                              • BrownIndian BrownIndianB
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                                BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                I do hope you are right for our sake.

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                                  D dencyguy wrote on last edited by
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                                  He's talked a lot about responsibility and accountability since he got here, at least from the players' side. I'd like to see some of that come from the coaches as well.

                                  As it stands right now, he's starting to come across as the fat kid who started out as a ball boy and now gets to show the jocks who's boss.

                                  Dennis

                                  I mean, not that any of that applies to him in real life, but still.

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                                    BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                    at this rate we need a roster overhaul !

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                                      BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jadbf said:

                                      Gee I wonder how many message board threads you could find saying the Browns/ravens were gonna miss Belechick when he left.

                                      How many fired coaches do you think fans have ever said. WTH did we fire him?

                                      If some other team hires Romeo Crennell, wont you make an accurate guess of how the progress of the team would be ? We know better about RAC and they know better about Mangini.

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                                        BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                        @jadbf said:

                                        I don't take anything fans from another team say very seriously.

                                        Fans, ex NFL dudes in commentary booth, the media, the results. There are just too many indications. Tell me one thing that has gone positive for Mangini.

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                                          BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                          10 games, sounds good.

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