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  • sydS syd

    this guy looked great last week vs georgia,does anyone know much about him

    Haynes King - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Quarterback - ESPN

    @syd said:

    this guy looked great last week vs georgia,does anyone know much about him

    Haynes King - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Quarterback - ESPN

    His throwing motion is horrendous.  Going to need at least a few years to fix that. 

  • @syd said:

    this guy looked great last week vs georgia,does anyone know much about him

    Haynes King - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Quarterback - ESPN

    His throwing motion is horrendous.  Going to need at least a few years to fix that. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    His throwing motion is horrendous.  Going to need at least a few years to fix that. 

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    His throwing motion is horrendous.  Going to need at least a few years to fix that. 

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    @orion said:

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    How'd you find a picture of my golf swing?!?

  • @syd said:

    this guy looked great last week vs georgia,does anyone know much about him

    Haynes King - Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Quarterback - ESPN

    has a lot of ability, but is said to be mistake prone in decisions and accuracy. Dual threat.

    Injured knee, I question his maturity. Who knows how he will work out in the pros.

    @calfoxwc said:

    has a lot of ability, but is said to be mistake prone in decisions and accuracy. Dual threat.

    Injured knee, I question his maturity. Who knows how he will work out in the pros.

    so  a 5th to udfa ?

  • sydS syd

    @calfoxwc said:

    has a lot of ability, but is said to be mistake prone in decisions and accuracy. Dual threat.

    Injured knee, I question his maturity. Who knows how he will work out in the pros.

    so  a 5th to udfa ?

    @syd said:

    so  a 5th to udfa ?

    Maybe. I"ve seen Drew Allar rated in the top ten about xix or seven in the qb college ranks - King isn't top ten. I know qbs. My fantasy football teams were both in first place.

    No, wait, we started losing because I had injures, multiple bye weeks. One week all three qb's were on a bye. lol about 9-4 in both.

    never mind.

  • Really not impressed with Beck or Ewers.  The former probably the least.  Ewers is reminding me more of Mac Jones by minute.  Oh, wait, he plays in the same offense. 

  • You can't play guitar with a belt buckle like that!  You'll gouge up the back side of your guitar!  (I like to keep my guitars looking as pristine as possible)

    @orion said:

    You can't play guitar with a belt buckle like that!  You'll gouge up the back side of your guitar!  (I like to keep my guitars looking as pristine as possible)

    Yeah, but it your wife / girlfriend decides to play ride 'em cowboy with you, she can't be bucked off.?

  • Really not impressed with Beck or Ewers.  The former probably the least.  Ewers is reminding me more of Mac Jones by minute.  Oh, wait, he plays in the same offense. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Really not impressed with Beck or Ewers.  The former probably the least.  Ewers is reminding me more of Mac Jones by minute.  Oh, wait, he plays in the same offense. 

    Agree with neither are that impressive. However the Georgia offense this year has been very bad at times. They also have the most dropped passes and receivers having trouble separating. 

    Id still take a flier on Beck if he falls to us in the draft past 1st round.  I think he has potential but it may never come. 

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Really not impressed with Beck or Ewers.  The former probably the least.  Ewers is reminding me more of Mac Jones by minute.  Oh, wait, he plays in the same offense. 

    Agree with neither are that impressive. However the Georgia offense this year has been very bad at times. They also have the most dropped passes and receivers having trouble separating. 

    Id still take a flier on Beck if he falls to us in the draft past 1st round.  I think he has potential but it may never come. 

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

    @usfbrown said:

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

    True, but please draft trench guys. 

    Yeah, QB is important but I'd opt for OT & LB as a priority. Sadly, I don't want this  team picking a QB early. 

    In my lifetime only Sipe & Kosar were good QB draft picks. Sipe 13th round, Kosar supplemental pick. Yeah, Baker was a decent pick but, well, not the right one in hindsight.

    Browns 31

    Steelers 16

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Really not impressed with Beck or Ewers.  The former probably the least.  Ewers is reminding me more of Mac Jones by minute.  Oh, wait, he plays in the same offense. 

    Agree with neither are that impressive. However the Georgia offense this year has been very bad at times. They also have the most dropped passes and receivers having trouble separating. 

    Id still take a flier on Beck if he falls to us in the draft past 1st round.  I think he has potential but it may never come. 

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

    @usfbrown said:

    Agree with neither are that impressive. However the Georgia offense this year has been very bad at times. They also have the most dropped passes and receivers having trouble separating. 

    Id still take a flier on Beck if he falls to us in the draft past 1st round.  I think he has potential but it may never come. 

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

    The thing is, Stefanski's offense doesn't need a top draft pick QB to run it well. 

    A QB who is smart, can read a defense and will take shots downfield when it presents itself works very well. Someone who can thrive off play-action.

  • @usfbrown said:

    This QB class isn't great but we need to continue to try and land one. 

    True, but please draft trench guys. 

    Yeah, QB is important but I'd opt for OT & LB as a priority. Sadly, I don't want this  team picking a QB early. 

    In my lifetime only Sipe & Kosar were good QB draft picks. Sipe 13th round, Kosar supplemental pick. Yeah, Baker was a decent pick but, well, not the right one in hindsight.

    Browns 31

    Steelers 16

    @bob806 said:

    True, but please draft trench guys. 

    Yeah, QB is important but I'd opt for OT & LB as a priority. Sadly, I don't want this  team picking a QB early. 

    In my lifetime only Sipe & Kosar were good QB draft picks. Sipe 13th round, Kosar supplemental pick. Yeah, Baker was a decent pick but, well, not the right one in hindsight.

    Browns 31

    Steelers 16

    There's going to be a few OLine and DLine guys available when the Browns draft in the first round.

    I like the top half of the first round for the Browns a lot, as of December. 

  • https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2025-nfl-three-round-mock-draft-wr-cb-travis-hunter-and-qb-shedeur-sanders-go-no-1-and-no-2-new-york-giants-get-their-future-qb

    Here's a 3 Round Mock Draft from Pro Football Focus. The Browns three picks:

    1st Round #8 Overall: OT Will Campbell LSU
    2nd Round #40 Overall: RB Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State
    3rd Round #72 Overall: QB Drew Allar, Penn State 

  • Welp.. gonna need to draft a kicker

  • Welp.. gonna need to draft a kicker

    @usfbrown said:

    Welp.. gonna need to draft a kicker

    What the heck happened to Hopkins?!  He's turned into total $#!+

    ---  Nice that the Jags won...but we're still picking no worse than 8th.

  • 2025 Draft should be a Tackle, G/C and a bookend to Myles…the other Day 2 pick find an explosive toy RB/WR. Beyond that hammer the front 7 and Oline with the remainder of the picks.  That first round pick has to be a great edge player or an offensive tackle. 
     

    Please no Allar there were multiple occasions Saturday where is footwork was just horrendous.  And I get Jay Cutler vibes from Carson Beck. If Garrett Nussmeier fell considerably he might be worth a look.
     

    You retain Winston for next year he’s not a bad locker room guy…he’s probably a 5/6 win ceiling guy and he will stay healthy. This makes us competitive enough so the fan base can pull through but we still have a top 10 pick in 2026 where QB is a must. 
     

    2026 you draft your QB and his go to WR and TE.  Bring in a good WR via trade or free agency to stabilize the WR room and give the new QB someone to work with. 

  •  Allar can be incredibly tough to watch at times.  He's wildly inconsistent and gets sloppy with his mechanics and decision making under pressure.  I'd be fine if he was a late day 2 pick.  Doubt he goes first round. But he has elite physical measurables, so 2nd *possibly* third is most likely. 

     Kid really needs a lot of development. 

  • Remaining Schedule:  This is based on today, 12-9-24.  What we need is based on us losing out.

    Browns  -  Chiefs, Bengals, Dolphins, Ravens  What we need:  Obviously, lose all 4.  Problem, they're all winnable.  Yup, even the Chiefs (let down week) and Ravens (final game of season and may rest key players)

    Raiders  -  Falcons, Jaguars, Saints, Chargers  What we need:  2 wins.  (at least 1 win)  3 of the games are winnable...except Carr got hurt Sunday. 

    Patriots  -  Cardinals, Bills, Chargers, Bills  What we need:  1 win.  Cardinals look like the only hope.

    Titans  -  Bengals, Colts, Jaguars, Texans  What we need:  1 win.  

    Jaguars  -  Jets, Raiders, Titans, Colts  What we need:  Beat the Colts and lose to everyone else.

    Jets  -  Jaguars, Rams, Bills, Dolphins  What we need:  1 win

    Giants  -  Ravens, Falcons, Colts, Eagles  What we need:  2 wins.  (at least 1 win)  -  we're screwed.

    Panthers  -  Cowboys, Cardinals, Bucs, Falcons  What we need:  1 win

    Looks to me like the Giants & Raiders will be picking 1st and 2nd.  The Jaguars are key to us.  They could possibly put 4 teams behind us in the draft order.  

  •  Allar can be incredibly tough to watch at times.  He's wildly inconsistent and gets sloppy with his mechanics and decision making under pressure.  I'd be fine if he was a late day 2 pick.  Doubt he goes first round. But he has elite physical measurables, so 2nd *possibly* third is most likely. 

     Kid really needs a lot of development. 

    @tiamat63 said:

     Allar can be incredibly tough to watch at times.  He's wildly inconsistent and gets sloppy with his mechanics and decision making under pressure.  I'd be fine if he was a late day 2 pick.  Doubt he goes first round. But he has elite physical measurables, so 2nd *possibly* third is most likely. 

     Kid really needs a lot of development. 

    I'd definitely be intrigued if he was sitting there at the top of the third. He's still a work in progress, but there's some upside with him if you can get him in a good situation and don't have to rush him. 

    Same thing with Beck. 

    I still contend that you don't need a top-notch first round prospect to succeed in Stefanski's offense. 

  • Once the combine is over, Aller will be a first rounder. He is the prototype size. Some team will drool over his measurements and think they can fix the rest. Hopefully it’s not the Browns. 

  • 2025 Draft should be a Tackle, G/C and a bookend to Myles…the other Day 2 pick find an explosive toy RB/WR. Beyond that hammer the front 7 and Oline with the remainder of the picks.  That first round pick has to be a great edge player or an offensive tackle. 
     

    Please no Allar there were multiple occasions Saturday where is footwork was just horrendous.  And I get Jay Cutler vibes from Carson Beck. If Garrett Nussmeier fell considerably he might be worth a look.
     

    You retain Winston for next year he’s not a bad locker room guy…he’s probably a 5/6 win ceiling guy and he will stay healthy. This makes us competitive enough so the fan base can pull through but we still have a top 10 pick in 2026 where QB is a must. 
     

    2026 you draft your QB and his go to WR and TE.  Bring in a good WR via trade or free agency to stabilize the WR room and give the new QB someone to work with. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    2025 Draft should be a Tackle, G/C and a bookend to Myles…the other Day 2 pick find an explosive toy RB/WR. Beyond that hammer the front 7 and Oline with the remainder of the picks.  That first round pick has to be a great edge player or an offensive tackle. 
     

    Please no Allar there were multiple occasions Saturday where is footwork was just horrendous.  And I get Jay Cutler vibes from Carson Beck. If Garrett Nussmeier fell considerably he might be worth a look.
     

    You retain Winston for next year he’s not a bad locker room guy…he’s probably a 5/6 win ceiling guy and he will stay healthy. This makes us competitive enough so the fan base can pull through but we still have a top 10 pick in 2026 where QB is a must. 
     

    2026 you draft your QB and his go to WR and TE.  Bring in a good WR via trade or free agency to stabilize the WR room and give the new QB someone to work with. 

    Reasonable, which means it won't happen?

    I'm in agreement on the Allar posts. Definitely has skills but not ready, & I'm not sure Cle can develop him based on our difficulties