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  • VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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    Myles Garrett gives Browns an ultimatum, won't stay in Cleveland through rebuild (msn.com)

     

    Myles Garrett gives Browns an ultimatum, won't stay in Cleveland through rebuild

     

    The Cleveland Browns have had a dreadful season and will finish the year with their fewest wins since the 2019 season when they went 6-10. And while the biggest question mark and missing piece is clearly the quarterback position, their stubbornness surrounding Deshaun Watson has wasted multiple seasons, and may cost them their best player.

     

    Speaking to the media on Friday, reigning Defensive Player of the Year Myles Garrett made it clear he wants to be in Cleveland for the long haul, but also said he will not be part of a rebuild.

    Ari Meirov@MySportsUpdate
    #Browns DE Myles Garrett said today that he wants to stay in Cleveland long-term, but the team has to have an immediate plan to win. He intends to make this clear during offseason discussions about his future, emphasizing that he has no interest in being part of a rebuild. Show more

    "[Garrett] intends to make this clear during offseason discussions about his future, emphasizing that he has no interest in being part of a rebuild," Ari Meirov says via X.

    Garrett said himself that he wants the Browns to "illustrate" a clear plan of winning.

    "That would keep my mind at rest and settled," Garrett said. "There has to be a plan of action."

    Through all of this mess that began with acquiring Deshaun Watson, it could end with the Browns losing the face of their franchise. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    I'm not surprised - the Browns are a clusterfook, and it isn't the players' fault.

    But it starts from the top - and Haslam is worse than the others. Everyone knows I had

    Josh Allen as my star qb first round in my stupid mock draft. But did the Browns draft him?

    no-o-o-o-o.

    They went with Baker, who took them to the playoffs.... and the Browns dumped him.

    Stupanski is a wimpy, mumbly-should-be-only-an-assistant coach. They brought in a woman in a man's crew cut

    big splash in dei, now you don't hear about her anymore. Wills made a "business decision" to NOT play in a game.

    and one of the WORST trades for a "qb" in NFL history.....

    Garrett is a true star - but I don't blame him. Amari Cooper loves it in Buffalo -= said " he

    waited all his career to play for team like this"...

    and Haslam wants a new stadium. Yeah, that is bs.

    "STFU, Josh Allen is garbage" and "Baker is a loser" baloney.

    "We want a superbowl, and watson will...."

    Imagine if Garrett gives up and plays for ....KC ? Buffalo?

    One step forward, two steps back = the Browns. Too bad.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1266624717722250

    and......

    https://sportsnaut.com/nfl/lists/worst-nfl-treades-of-all-time/

    and......

    https://www.ktbs.com/sports/national/cowboys-target-baker-mayfield-bucs-clamoring-to-clinch/article_52e52bb8-1700-5821-a746-dec7da2dd93b.html

    "The Buccaneers lead the NFL with eight games of 400-plus total yards and four games with both 300-plus yards passing and more than 100 rushing. The Los Angeles Chargers were the NFL's best scoring defense before the Bucs arrived last week and delivered a 40-17 thrashing."

    "

    Mayfield was named the Offensive Player of the Week in the NFC for his exploits in the road win over the Chargers.

    He completed 22 of 27 pass attempts for 288 yards and four touchdowns with a pair to wide receiver Mike Evans. The quarterback posted a 135.3 passer rating, helping the Bucs to the largest margin of victory in Week 15. Tampa Bay scored on nine of 12 possessions and didn't punt.

    Mayfield ranks third in the league in passing touchdowns (32) and completion percentage (70.8), fourth in total touchdowns (35) and passing yards (3,617), and sixth in passer rating (104.1)."

    **********************************************************

    So, no, I don't blame Garrett or others for getting tired of the Browns losses and ...clusterfookness.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    First team to offer two first rounders gets him, if I'm the Browns.

    I'd put Denzel Ward on the trading block too. 

    Browns are the second oldest team in the NFL, and need to stop kicking the proverbial can down the road regarding Watson's contract. Eat it the next two years, move on. This unfortunately screams rebuild. 

    Aim for being a playoff contender in 2027, just before the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in Brookpark opens. 

  • USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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    Great post Cal. Think that sums up how a lot of us feel. 

    I do feel bad for the players, especially talented long term ones. This team is and has been since 99 a dumpster fire due to FO. It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

  • Great post Cal. Think that sums up how a lot of us feel. 

    I do feel bad for the players, especially talented long term ones. This team is and has been since 99 a dumpster fire due to FO. It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @usfbrown said:

     It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

    Correct. The draft is supposed to help you build. 

    Instead, DePodesta, Berry, Sashi, etc use it to trade earned assets & end up right back where they started.

    1-15

    0-16

    7-8-1

    6-10

    11-5

    8-9

    7-10

    11-6

    *3-11

    Absolutely insane. 

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

  • @usfbrown said:

     It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

    Correct. The draft is supposed to help you build. 

    Instead, DePodesta, Berry, Sashi, etc use it to trade earned assets & end up right back where they started.

    1-15

    0-16

    7-8-1

    6-10

    11-5

    8-9

    7-10

    11-6

    *3-11

    Absolutely insane. 

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @bob806 said:

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

    I think the proper word is endure it.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/endure

  • @usfbrown said:

     It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

    Correct. The draft is supposed to help you build. 

    Instead, DePodesta, Berry, Sashi, etc use it to trade earned assets & end up right back where they started.

    1-15

    0-16

    7-8-1

    6-10

    11-5

    8-9

    7-10

    11-6

    *3-11

    Absolutely insane. 

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

    A AP1 wrote on last edited by
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    @bob806 said:

    DePodesta, Berry, Sashi

    One thing these men all have in common is that they were hired by Jimmy Haslam.

    So to Cal's point, we know the true problem.

  • A AP1 wrote on last edited by
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    I appreciate everything Myles has done for the Franchise.

    There's no way the Browns are getting out of this without a "rebuild." To what degree is anyone's best guess.

    The Team needs so much and Myles is too valuable.

    I'd give him his opportunity to not be part of a rebuild. 

  • A AP1 wrote on last edited by
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    Screenshot_20250106_190557_Instagram.jpg

  • @usfbrown said:

     It's a statistical anomaly to be this bad for this long the way the NFL and drafting is structured. 

    Correct. The draft is supposed to help you build. 

    Instead, DePodesta, Berry, Sashi, etc use it to trade earned assets & end up right back where they started.

    1-15

    0-16

    7-8-1

    6-10

    11-5

    8-9

    7-10

    11-6

    *3-11

    Absolutely insane. 

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @bob806 said:

    Correct. The draft is supposed to help you build. 

    Instead, DePodesta, Berry, Sashi, etc use it to trade earned assets & end up right back where they started.

    1-15

    0-16

    7-8-1

    6-10

    11-5

    8-9

    7-10

    11-6

    *3-11

    Absolutely insane. 

    What's even more insane? We support it ???

  • A AP1

    I appreciate everything Myles has done for the Franchise.

    There's no way the Browns are getting out of this without a "rebuild." To what degree is anyone's best guess.

    The Team needs so much and Myles is too valuable.

    I'd give him his opportunity to not be part of a rebuild. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @ap1 said:

    I appreciate everything Myles has done for the Franchise.

    There's no way the Browns are getting out of this without a "rebuild." To what degree is anyone's best guess.

    The Team needs so much and Myles is too valuable.

    I'd give him his opportunity to not be part of a rebuild. 

    I hear ya but this team won 11 games as recently as 1 year ago despite using 5 different QBs and losing the following starters to injury:  Nick Chubb, Jack Conklin, Dawand Jones, Jed Wills, and more...  There's guys here that CAN win but there's lingering questions on whether the GM can draft to the level he needs to. Right now there's 3 AFC North teams in the playoffs so he better giddy-up and get after it.

    My guess is Myles doesn't want to see a lot of trading for future picks in 2026/2027/2028 or this trading for 7th round picks.  Then again, those of us entering our 50s, 60s or 70s don't either I would guess.  Pretending now isn't urgent excuses, perpetuates and reinforces losing.  Next year's draft volume should be fine if we have the right GM doing the drafting.

    As far as Watson goes, he didn't bring himself here.  In fact, when he narrowed his search down to his 2 finalists near the end - he excluded Cleveland.  The hatred is justified; but all those behind that decision to give him an offer he can't refuse are still here with endless and unchallenged tenure. 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEjFFA4pFlH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    Would suck to lose this guy, him and Joe Thomas deserved better. 

  • https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEjFFA4pFlH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    Would suck to lose this guy, him and Joe Thomas deserved better. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEjFFA4pFlH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    Would suck to lose this guy, him and Joe Thomas deserved better. 

    That was a really cool moment. Myles is a cool guy. 

  • VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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    Myles Garrett now believes Browns are 'closer than some may think' to turning things around

    Published: Jan 14, 2025 at 09:55 PM
     
     

    In the final weeks of a dreary season for the Cleveland Browns, Myles Garrett made it clear he does not want to be part of a rebuilding process.

    Furthermore, he was looking for discussions with the Browns brass that would shed a light on what the plan was going forward.

    It would appear those conversations were had and Garrett believes his Browns might not be that far away from playing the "meaningful" games he covets.

    "I've talked to [general manager Andrew Berry]," Garrett said in Tuesday's episode of Hard Knocks: In Season With the AFC North. "How we gonna make the most of all the talent that is here? We're closer than some may think we are."

  • Myles Garrett now believes Browns are 'closer than some may think' to turning things around

    Published: Jan 14, 2025 at 09:55 PM
     
     

    In the final weeks of a dreary season for the Cleveland Browns, Myles Garrett made it clear he does not want to be part of a rebuilding process.

    Furthermore, he was looking for discussions with the Browns brass that would shed a light on what the plan was going forward.

    It would appear those conversations were had and Garrett believes his Browns might not be that far away from playing the "meaningful" games he covets.

    "I've talked to [general manager Andrew Berry]," Garrett said in Tuesday's episode of Hard Knocks: In Season With the AFC North. "How we gonna make the most of all the talent that is here? We're closer than some may think we are."

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @vambo said:

    "I've talked to [general manager Andrew Berry]," Garrett said in Tuesday's episode of Hard Knocks: In Season With the AFC North. "How we gonna make the most of all the talent that is here? We're closer than some may think we are."

    ...but we need a QB.  Without one we are further away then people think we are.

  • @vambo said:

    "I've talked to [general manager Andrew Berry]," Garrett said in Tuesday's episode of Hard Knocks: In Season With the AFC North. "How we gonna make the most of all the talent that is here? We're closer than some may think we are."

    ...but we need a QB.  Without one we are further away then people think we are.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #16

    @orion said:

    ...but we need a QB.  Without one we are further away then people think we are.

    Right... I tend to think the starting 2025 quarterback for the Browns isn't on the team. We also need a Left Tackle, and Conklin is injury prone. Who knows if JOK will be able to play? 

    Closer than one would think? Sure, we lost a couple close games, but if you want to count a blowout- losing by 10 or more, chalk up nine games where we weren't competitive. Especially towards the end of the season. Legitimate concern Stefanski had lost the locker room.  

    2025 screams rebuild- you don't go from 3-14 to the Super Bowl, or even the playoffs in one season. 

    PS- Just saw a report that (not surprisingly) the Browns are 100% fed up with Watson. They brought in Dorsey (big mistake IMHO) to run an offense more suitable for him- and DW refused to use it. But can't be cut- or traded. Berry may be able to do some cap magic adding more voidable years to that contract and spread the $92 million hit Watson is owed over more years.  

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by syd
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  • @vambo said:

    "I've talked to [general manager Andrew Berry]," Garrett said in Tuesday's episode of Hard Knocks: In Season With the AFC North. "How we gonna make the most of all the talent that is here? We're closer than some may think we are."

    ...but we need a QB.  Without one we are further away then people think we are.

    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @orion said:

    ...but we need a QB.  Without one we are further away then people think we are.

    Cleveland Browns Pitched To Sign Former Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback, They Need The Help

    Story by Ryan Brooks
     • 5h • 2 min read
     
     

    With the offseason having arrived for most teams, though, one former Bengals quarterback could land a new job amid the player movement chaos.

    Andy Dalton, who spent his first nine seasons in the NFL and 133 starts with Cincinnati, is entering free agency this offseason after spending the season with the Carolina Panthers in a backup role.

     
    Andy Dalton of the Carolina Panthers © Geoff Burke-Imagn Images
    Andy Dalton of the Carolina Panthers © Geoff Burke-Imagn Images

    If the 37-year-old quarterback is looking for a potential role where he could see more starts -- like he did in favor of Bryce Young this season -- he could end up with the Cleveland Browns, as analyst Adam Gerstenhaber recently pitched on "The Bullpen" podcast.

    “Andy Dalton has been a clear backup, and he’s worked with a lot of young quarterbacks, and from all accounts, he’s been a great mentor," Gerstenhaber explained. "We saw Bryce Young with Andy Dalton this year really take off when he got his second chance. I think Andy Dalton, I know people know him from the Bengals, of course, but I think he could be a great influence on a young quarterback."

    The Browns need to turn the page in terms of the signal-caller leading the team, and bringing in a young quarterback as well as Dalton could be exactly what they need.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #19

    oh boy

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #20