Skip to content
The Browns Board
Theme
  • System
  • Light
  • Dark
  • Login
  • Register
  • Forums
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Donate
  1. Home
  2. The Browns Board
  3. The First Two Picks of the Draft...

The First Two Picks of the Draft...

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Browns Board
34 Posts 12 Posters 883 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • sydS syd

    Yikes

    Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
    • 9k Posts
    • 4k Reputation
    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @syd said:

    Yikes

    You're afraid that I'm right aren't you?!

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
    1 Reply Last reply
    Quote Reply
    • OrionO Orion

      @bob806 said:

      I am firmly in the "rebuild the trenches" belief. 

      Let me say that I agree 100%.  We've gotta get the OLine fixed!!!  But we are picking #2 in the draft.  That better not happen again for a long time.  If Ward falls to us, I want him.  Then we can build trenches, towers, dams, whatever.

      Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
      • 15k Posts
      • 8k Reputation
      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
      #11

      @orion said:

      Let me say that I agree 100%.  We've gotta get the OLine fixed!!!  But we are picking #2 in the draft.  That better not happen again for a long time.  If Ward falls to us, I want him.  Then we can build trenches, towers, dams, whatever.

      What attributes do you like about Cam Ward that makes you think he's worth the #2 overall pick? 

      1 Reply Last reply
      Quote Reply
      • tiamat63T tiamat63

        @bob806 said:

        7 years later, yikes it's 2015/16 again.

        A way bit hyperbolic. 

        Bob806 Bob806B Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
        • 5k Posts
        • 2k Reputation
        Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
        #12

        @tiamat63 said:

        A way bit hyperbolic. 

        1-15

        0-16

        3-14

        It's close. Last in the league in points scored. 

        I want to be optimistic, but I don't see a big turnaround in 2025. I'd be happy to be wrong.

        Karlis Missed
        tiamat63T 1 Reply Last reply
        Quote Reply
        • Bob806B Bob806

          @tiamat63 said:

          A way bit hyperbolic. 

          1-15

          0-16

          3-14

          It's close. Last in the league in points scored. 

          I want to be optimistic, but I don't see a big turnaround in 2025. I'd be happy to be wrong.

          tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
          • 13k Posts
          • 5k Reputation
          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
          #13

          @bob806 said:

          1-15

          0-16

          3-14

          It's close. Last in the league in points scored. 

          I want to be optimistic, but I don't see a big turnaround in 2025. I'd be happy to be wrong.

          You don't have Hue Jackson and a complete dearth of skill positions. 

          1 Reply Last reply
          ❤
          Quote Reply
          • Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
            • 15k Posts
            • 8k Reputation
            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
            #14

            I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2

            OrionO S 2 Replies Last reply
            👍 ❤
            Quote Reply
            • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

              I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2

              Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
              • 9k Posts
              • 4k Reputation
              OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
              #15

              @dutch-oven said:

              I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2

              ...and I agree with them.  If you don't believe in the QB that's there, then trade out.  And they all said, If you believe in the QB then it's a no brainer, you pick the QB.

              BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
              Dutch OvenD VaporTrailV 2 Replies Last reply
              👍
              Quote Reply
              • OrionO Orion

                @dutch-oven said:

                I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2

                ...and I agree with them.  If you don't believe in the QB that's there, then trade out.  And they all said, If you believe in the QB then it's a no brainer, you pick the QB.

                Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                • 15k Posts
                • 8k Reputation
                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @orion said:

                ...and I agree with them.  If you don't believe in the QB that's there, then trade out.  And they all said, If you believe in the QB then it's a no brainer, you pick the QB.

                Absolutely.

                And as of right now, for different reasons, I don't feel Sanders or Ward is worth the #2 pick. 

                I would love to trade down with the Giants, Raiders or Jets. 

                OrionO 1 Reply Last reply
                👍
                Quote Reply
                • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                  @orion said:

                  ...and I agree with them.  If you don't believe in the QB that's there, then trade out.  And they all said, If you believe in the QB then it's a no brainer, you pick the QB.

                  Absolutely.

                  And as of right now, for different reasons, I don't feel Sanders or Ward is worth the #2 pick. 

                  I would love to trade down with the Giants, Raiders or Jets. 

                  Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                  • 9k Posts
                  • 4k Reputation
                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  @dutch-oven said:

                  I would love to trade down with the Giants, Raiders or Jets. 

                  And if you DO find a trade partner, then you've found someone that DOES feel the QB is worth the #2 pick...and more, because it's gonna COST them to get up to #2.  And that means one of two teams is wrong.  And because one of those teams is us...I feel like I'm at the supermarket trying to decide which lane will move faster.  Whichever one I choose is always wrong.  

                  BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
                  T 1 Reply Last reply
                  Quote Reply
                  • OrionO Orion

                    @dutch-oven said:

                    I would love to trade down with the Giants, Raiders or Jets. 

                    And if you DO find a trade partner, then you've found someone that DOES feel the QB is worth the #2 pick...and more, because it's gonna COST them to get up to #2.  And that means one of two teams is wrong.  And because one of those teams is us...I feel like I'm at the supermarket trying to decide which lane will move faster.  Whichever one I choose is always wrong.  

                    TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                    • 23k Posts
                    • 6k Reputation
                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @orion said:

                    And if you DO find a trade partner, then you've found someone that DOES feel the QB is worth the #2 pick...and more, because it's gonna COST them to get up to #2.  And that means one of two teams is wrong.  And because one of those teams is us...I feel like I'm at the supermarket trying to decide which lane will move faster.  Whichever one I choose is always wrong.  

                    Ah, I think you should apply for Depo's job. Perfect fit to continue along the same paths as before.?

                    OrionO 1 Reply Last reply
                    Quote Reply
                    • T TexasAg1969

                      @orion said:

                      And if you DO find a trade partner, then you've found someone that DOES feel the QB is worth the #2 pick...and more, because it's gonna COST them to get up to #2.  And that means one of two teams is wrong.  And because one of those teams is us...I feel like I'm at the supermarket trying to decide which lane will move faster.  Whichever one I choose is always wrong.  

                      Ah, I think you should apply for Depo's job. Perfect fit to continue along the same paths as before.?

                      Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                      • 9k Posts
                      • 4k Reputation
                      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      @texasag1969 said:

                      I think you should apply for Depo's job. Perfect fit

                      Nah, I would want the analytics play-calling book tossed into the trash.  Don't be going for it on 4th down all the time.  Take the FG whenever it presents itself.  Put points on the board any ol' way you can.   Problem is, our Kicker has turned to mush.  I guess we should trade back from #2 and draft a Kicker!  🙂 

                      BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
                      1 Reply Last reply
                      Quote Reply
                      • T TexasAg1969

                        Trade down and build the trenches. QB in this class would be just another to add to the never ending t-shirt of failures.

                        JJmac28 JJmac28J Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                        • 87 Posts
                        • 16 Reputation
                        JJmac28J JJmac28 wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        @texasag1969 said:

                        Trade down and build the trenches. QB in this class would be just another to add to the never ending t-shirt of failures.

                        I 100% agree no to any of the top QB this year, maybe a flyer on a 5th or 6th rounder

                        OrionO 1 Reply Last reply
                        Quote Reply
                        • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                          I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2

                          SdBacker80 S Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                          • 5k Posts
                          • 2k Reputation
                          S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          @dutch-oven said:

                          I really, REALLY enjoy this show, and they really had some good thoughts on what the Browns should do and how they should attack the Draft sitting at #2


                          great video. 
                           

                          Im in the trade down camp. Deion can either help us or hurt us they pointed out.  
                           

                          If Multiple teams are involved we will get a first round pick next year. 

                          Giants #3, 1st Next Year, 3rd this year.  We take Carter.

                          Raiders #6, 1st next year, 2 this year, 3rd next year.  Probably have Banks available.

                          and I don’t think Sanders keeps either team out of the Top next year.  So you have two top ten picks next year enough bullets to get your QB in 2026

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          👍
                          Quote Reply
                          • JJmac28J JJmac28

                            @texasag1969 said:

                            Trade down and build the trenches. QB in this class would be just another to add to the never ending t-shirt of failures.

                            I 100% agree no to any of the top QB this year, maybe a flyer on a 5th or 6th rounder

                            Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                            • 9k Posts
                            • 4k Reputation
                            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            @jjmac28 said:

                            I 100% agree no to any of the top QB this year, maybe a flyer on a 5th or 6th rounder

                            You mean like a DTR or something.  And that wouldn't be seen as a borderline wasted pick?  Way down there in the draft you're looking for position backups and special teamers for the most part.

                            BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
                            1 Reply Last reply
                            Quote Reply
                            • LondonBrown L Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                              • 4k Posts
                              • 918 Reputation
                              L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
                              #23

                              Can’t keep trotting out every Sunday with no QB worth anything. 

                              Jayden Daniels had his detractors, Bo Nix certainly did. They’ve turned out okay. 

                              The Browns will have to take a shot on Ward or Sanders whoever is there at #2 I don’t see them doing anything else. This is Berry and Stefanski’s last shot they’re not going to draft linemen, they have to find a QB that keeps them in a job. 
                               

                              Dutch OvenD 1 Reply Last reply
                              👍
                              Quote Reply
                              • L LondonBrown

                                Can’t keep trotting out every Sunday with no QB worth anything. 

                                Jayden Daniels had his detractors, Bo Nix certainly did. They’ve turned out okay. 

                                The Browns will have to take a shot on Ward or Sanders whoever is there at #2 I don’t see them doing anything else. This is Berry and Stefanski’s last shot they’re not going to draft linemen, they have to find a QB that keeps them in a job. 
                                 

                                Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                • 15k Posts
                                • 8k Reputation
                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                @londonbrown said:

                                Can’t keep trotting out every Sunday with no QB worth anything. 

                                Jayden Daniels had his detractors, Bo Nix certainly did. They’ve turned out okay. 

                                The Browns will have to take a shot on Ward or Sanders whoever is there at #2 I don’t see them doing anything else. This is Berry and Stefanski’s last shot they’re not going to draft linemen, they have to find a QB that keeps them in a job. 
                                 

                                Which is a reason I kind of didn't want them back. Specifically Berry.

                                This team needs rebuilt. I'm not talking a complete to the studs tear-down, not another 1-31 stretch, but this is the second oldest team with a huge payroll. They lost six 1st and 2nd day picks the last three drafts.

                                But the guys in charge are fighting for their jobs - so they might make decisions that long-term aren't the best for the Browns in a Hail Mary attempt to stay employed beyond next season. 

                                OrionO 1 Reply Last reply
                                Quote Reply
                                • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                  @londonbrown said:

                                  Can’t keep trotting out every Sunday with no QB worth anything. 

                                  Jayden Daniels had his detractors, Bo Nix certainly did. They’ve turned out okay. 

                                  The Browns will have to take a shot on Ward or Sanders whoever is there at #2 I don’t see them doing anything else. This is Berry and Stefanski’s last shot they’re not going to draft linemen, they have to find a QB that keeps them in a job. 
                                   

                                  Which is a reason I kind of didn't want them back. Specifically Berry.

                                  This team needs rebuilt. I'm not talking a complete to the studs tear-down, not another 1-31 stretch, but this is the second oldest team with a huge payroll. They lost six 1st and 2nd day picks the last three drafts.

                                  But the guys in charge are fighting for their jobs - so they might make decisions that long-term aren't the best for the Browns in a Hail Mary attempt to stay employed beyond next season. 

                                  Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                  • 9k Posts
                                  • 4k Reputation
                                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  Which is a reason I kind of didn't want them back. Specifically Berry.

                                  If you bring in new people they are 100% going to want their own shiny new QB.  (well, 100% is kinda' high...more like 99.999 %)  🙂 

                                  BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
                                  Dutch OvenD 1 Reply Last reply
                                  Quote Reply
                                  • OrionO Orion

                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Which is a reason I kind of didn't want them back. Specifically Berry.

                                    If you bring in new people they are 100% going to want their own shiny new QB.  (well, 100% is kinda' high...more like 99.999 %)  🙂 

                                    Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                    • 15k Posts
                                    • 8k Reputation
                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @orion said:

                                    If you bring in new people they are 100% going to want their own shiny new QB.  (well, 100% is kinda' high...more like 99.999 %)  🙂 

                                    You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                    L OrionO 2 Replies Last reply
                                    Quote Reply
                                    • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                      @orion said:

                                      If you bring in new people they are 100% going to want their own shiny new QB.  (well, 100% is kinda' high...more like 99.999 %)  🙂 

                                      You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                      LondonBrown L Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                      • 4k Posts
                                      • 918 Reputation
                                      L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                      Thats where I am at really because the potential reward outweighs the risk.

                                      To hit on a stud OT or DE at that pick means nothing without a QB. The draft is very hard to predict anyway so I’d take the risk on the QB 

                                      Dutch OvenD S 2 Replies Last reply
                                      Quote Reply
                                      • L LondonBrown

                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                        Thats where I am at really because the potential reward outweighs the risk.

                                        To hit on a stud OT or DE at that pick means nothing without a QB. The draft is very hard to predict anyway so I’d take the risk on the QB 

                                        Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                        • 15k Posts
                                        • 8k Reputation
                                        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
                                        #28

                                        @londonbrown said:

                                        Thats where I am at really because the potential reward outweighs the risk.

                                        To hit on a stud OT or DE at that pick means nothing without a QB. The draft is very hard to predict anyway so I’d take the risk on the QB 

                                        I cannot wrap my head around this thinking. 

                                        I don't understand passing on a higher rated position player for a roll of the dice on a QB who most scouts will probably rank in the #20-40 overall player range. And then, to compound the questionable reach (and so there is no confusion, I don't hate Cam Ward's game) you know he'll be thrown out on the field immediately.

                                        But I could totally see the Browns doing this. 

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        Quote Reply
                                        • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                          @orion said:

                                          If you bring in new people they are 100% going to want their own shiny new QB.  (well, 100% is kinda' high...more like 99.999 %)  🙂 

                                          You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                          Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                          • 9k Posts
                                          • 4k Reputation
                                          OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          You still haven't told me why you think Cam Ward is worth the #2 overall pick, besides "Well we have the #2 pick and he's the #2 QB and we may never have the #2 pick again". 

                                          Because he's the best QB in the draft.  I like the way he can sling the ball from just about any ol' position.  Does he step into and through his throws beautifully?  Not right now.  But how many times is a QB not afforded the ability to step through the throw because pressure is coming in front of him?  

                                          Are the QB's the best talent on the board?  Usually not.  But QB's are graded on a curve because your football team is completely screwed if ya don't have one.  The LT, Edge rusher, CB, whatever is not gonna throw and TD passes for ya.

                                          BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Quote Reply

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Theme
                                          • System
                                          • Light
                                          • Dark
                                          The Browns Board Terms Privacy

                                          The Browns Board is an independent fan community. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Guardians, the NFL, NBA, MLB, or any of their affiliates. Team names, logos, and other marks are the property of their respective owners.

                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Forums
                                          • Recent
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Donate