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Ending wide open birthright citizenship is valid

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  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Just looking at a dictionary definition of “jurisdiction”, and it simply means “the official power to make legal decisions and judgements.” Maybe l’m alone here, but l think it’s good to have jurisdiction over these folks. If we didn’t, it means they either have diplomatic immunity or they’re straight up enemies of the state and must be shot on sight or sent to Guantanamo or something.

    You might be on board with mowing down a bunch of kids who were born here (but their parents weren’t), but l’m not sure the majority of Americans would be cool with that. I don’t think the majority of Americans would be cool with letting them do whatever they want either. Both things would create more problems than they solve.

    We have to have jurisdiction over them if we are going to do normal things like prosecute them. 

    A majority of Americans aren't on board with plenty of conservative policies (polls to show this). Conservatives just play the politics game much better, and now here we are. 

    @mld-woody said:

    A majority of Americans aren't on board with plenty of conservative policies (polls to show this). Conservatives just play the politics game much better, and now here we are. 

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2025/01/cnn-stunned-by-trump-poll-very-much-unlike-what-we-saw-8-years-ago.html

    CNN stunned by Trump poll: ‘Very much unlike what we saw 8 years ago’

  • @mld-woody said:

    A majority of Americans aren't on board with plenty of conservative policies (polls to show this). Conservatives just play the politics game much better, and now here we are. 

    we can guess where you get your polls.

    Facebook Twitter Flipboard Rasmussen polling, one of the more accurate pollsters from the 2024 presidential election, had revealed that most Americans favor putting an end to birthright citizenship to end anchor babies and make it a bit harder for illegals to become U.S. citizens. First of all, President-
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    @calfoxwc said:

    we can guess where you get your polls.

    Facebook Twitter Flipboard Rasmussen polling, one of the more accurate pollsters from the 2024 presidential election, had revealed that most Americans favor putting an end to birthright citizenship to end anchor babies and make it a bit harder for illegals to become U.S. citizens. First of all, President-
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    Hahahaha... It's ALWAYS Rasmussen. The PragerU of polling. The consistently always right wing poller that has been shunned by almost every reputable org. 

    "polls don't count! They're fake and they lie! Except for this one specific one that always says what I like!"

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-sour-some-trumps-early-moves-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-01-28/

    Most Americans opposed ending the nation's longstanding practice of granting citizenship to children born in the U.S. even if neither parent has legal immigration status, the poll found. Some 59% of respondents - including 89% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans - said they opposed ending birthright citizenship.

    https://apnorc.org/projects/most-adults-are-skeptical-that-trump-can-address-costs-and-other-economic-issues/

    In the latest AP-NORC poll, a slim majority of respondents, 51%, said they strongly or somewhat oppose “changing the Constitution so children born in the U.S. are not automatically granted citizenship if their parents are here illegally.”

    In contrast, 28% said they strongly or somewhat favor ending birthright citizenship, and 20% said they didn’t lean one way or the other.

  • Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

  • Tourists and illegals who enter the country pregnant should not have their children become citizens just because they popped out on our soil.  Period.  End of discussion.

  • Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    @mld-woody said:

    Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    And you have nothing but your blind, creepy love for fags!

  • @mld-woody said:

    Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    And you have nothing but your blind, creepy love for fags!

    @nickers said:

    And you have nothing but your blind, creepy love for fags!

    The tiny, angry, fragile old man and his slurs. How sad. 

  • @nickers said:

    And you have nothing but your blind, creepy love for fags!

    The tiny, angry, fragile old man and his slurs. How sad. 

    @mld-woody said:

    The tiny, angry, fragile old man and his slurs. How sad. 

    Of course you can't even come back with anything original... You are such a weak and effeminate man..

  • @mld-woody said:

    The tiny, angry, fragile old man and his slurs. How sad. 

    Of course you can't even come back with anything original... You are such a weak and effeminate man..

    @nickers said:

    Of course you can't even come back with anything original... You are such a weak and effeminate man..

    Yes, if only I had your originality of using slurs. You titan of intellect 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    so, you can't refute what I posted in the op. You never explain any of your bitching with legit points. Read what I posted.

    Cal... This is another instance where the link you posted to prove your point (and probably didn't read) absolutely destroys the point you were trying to make. It's just a law forum, but read through that top answer. It very clearly lays it all out. It even references past cases regarding illegal immigrants, where the amendment was upheld. 

    You really need to actually read these links, or at least understand them better. 

    And no cal, no matter how much they scare you and no matter how much right wing media feeds you propaganda, undocumented immigrants in our country aren't an "invading army". 

    You know those invading armies, millions strong, that only kill about two dozen people, pay taxes in the land they're invading, and work the lowest level jobs in that land. 

    Give me a fucking break you scared, pathetic old man

    @mld-woody said:

    Give me a fucking break you scared, pathetic old man

    You can do that on your own.

    Take some time off and get ahold of yourself.

  • Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    @mld-woody said:

    Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    “God king Trump” 

    And “Creepy love”? Oh I don’t know about that.
    Your bitterness over Trump once again occupying the White House is what’s clearly evident here.

    What best exemplified a creepy love is you people’s fawning over your lord and savior Barack Obama…the only one to have ever received the Nobel Peace Prize for reasons unknown other than Being Barack Obama.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Also, this is all a great way to district from the link you posting at the start of the thread shutting down the exact point you were trying to make. Another case of you not reading or comprehending...

    You've got nothing to stand on with this policy other than your blind, creepy love for Trump 

    “God king Trump” 

    And “Creepy love”? Oh I don’t know about that.
    Your bitterness over Trump once again occupying the White House is what’s clearly evident here.

    What best exemplified a creepy love is you people’s fawning over your lord and savior Barack Obama…the only one to have ever received the Nobel Peace Prize for reasons unknown other than Being Barack Obama.

    @fy56 said:

    “God king Trump” 

    And “Creepy love”? Oh I don’t know about that.
    Your bitterness over Trump once again occupying the White House is what’s clearly evident here.

    What best exemplified a creepy love is you people’s fawning over your lord and savior Barack Obama…the only one to have ever received the Nobel Peace Prize for reasons unknown other than Being Barack Obama.

    Dude, he got elected 16 years ago. Weird so many of you can't move on. 

    Besides the typical "you people" nonsense, as I've stated many times the Dens are trash, I was literally in high school when Obama was first elected. 

    Swing and a miss, champ. Might want to stay within the reality of what's actually been said on this board. Hard for baby of you to do, I realize.

  • @fy56 said:

    “God king Trump” 

    And “Creepy love”? Oh I don’t know about that.
    Your bitterness over Trump once again occupying the White House is what’s clearly evident here.

    What best exemplified a creepy love is you people’s fawning over your lord and savior Barack Obama…the only one to have ever received the Nobel Peace Prize for reasons unknown other than Being Barack Obama.

    Dude, he got elected 16 years ago. Weird so many of you can't move on. 

    Besides the typical "you people" nonsense, as I've stated many times the Dens are trash, I was literally in high school when Obama was first elected. 

    Swing and a miss, champ. Might want to stay within the reality of what's actually been said on this board. Hard for baby of you to do, I realize.

    @mld-woody said:

    I've stated many times the Dens are trash

    The denial and back pedaling ??

    I guess it's to be expected after being proven wrong time and again.

  • @fy56 said:

    “God king Trump” 

    And “Creepy love”? Oh I don’t know about that.
    Your bitterness over Trump once again occupying the White House is what’s clearly evident here.

    What best exemplified a creepy love is you people’s fawning over your lord and savior Barack Obama…the only one to have ever received the Nobel Peace Prize for reasons unknown other than Being Barack Obama.

    Dude, he got elected 16 years ago. Weird so many of you can't move on. 

    Besides the typical "you people" nonsense, as I've stated many times the Dens are trash, I was literally in high school when Obama was first elected. 

    Swing and a miss, champ. Might want to stay within the reality of what's actually been said on this board. Hard for baby of you to do, I realize.

    @mld-woody said:

    Dude, he got elected 16 years ago. Weird so many of you can't move on. 

    Well, we are still waiting for you to say Laken Riley's name and admit your "they are here to have a better life"

    was atrociously STUPID and DISHONEST>

    Until then, you are a cowardly bird that is a joke on this forum

  • @mld-woody said:

    Dude, he got elected 16 years ago. Weird so many of you can't move on. 

    Well, we are still waiting for you to say Laken Riley's name and admit your "they are here to have a better life"

    was atrociously STUPID and DISHONEST>

    Until then, you are a cowardly bird that is a joke on this forum

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, we are still waiting for you to say Laken Riley's name and admit your "they are here to have a better life"

    was atrociously STUPID and DISHONEST>

    Until then, you are a cowardly bird that is a joke on this forum

    Imagine using a dead girl so callously to push your fucked up, hateful political agenda. You truly are an awful person 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Well, we are still waiting for you to say Laken Riley's name and admit your "they are here to have a better life"

    was atrociously STUPID and DISHONEST>

    Until then, you are a cowardly bird that is a joke on this forum

    Imagine using a dead girl so callously to push your fucked up, hateful political agenda. You truly are an awful person 

    @mld-woody said:

    Imagine using a dear girl so callously to push your fucked up, hateful political agenda. You truly are an awful person 

    You are one sick, gutless retard... You babble like a stupid monkey fuck... Yet you support groomers, Murderers and looters... People who think like you are a danger to society... You are such a coward you can't say her name... You are as callous as the person person that ended Lakens life!!...  If I were Steve Id throw your ass off this board for supporting the bullshit you do.. You are not anywhere close to being sane.. You just spout drivel and hate like a spoiled child...

  • @mld-woody said:

    Imagine using a dear girl so callously to push your fucked up, hateful political agenda. You truly are an awful person 

    You are one sick, gutless retard... You babble like a stupid monkey fuck... Yet you support groomers, Murderers and looters... People who think like you are a danger to society... You are such a coward you can't say her name... You are as callous as the person person that ended Lakens life!!...  If I were Steve Id throw your ass off this board for supporting the bullshit you do.. You are not anywhere close to being sane.. You just spout drivel and hate like a spoiled child...

    @nickers said:

    You are one sick, gutless retard... You babble like a stupid monkey fuck... Yet you support groomers, Murderers and looters... People who think like you are a danger to society... You are such a coward you can't say her name... You are as callous as the person person that ended Lakens life!!...  If I were Steve Id throw your ass off this board for supporting the bullshit you do.. You are not anywhere close to being sane.. You just spout drivel and hate like a spoiled child...

    Breathe Nickers, breathe

    Remember your condition 

  • @nickers said:

    You are one sick, gutless retard... You babble like a stupid monkey fuck... Yet you support groomers, Murderers and looters... People who think like you are a danger to society... You are such a coward you can't say her name... You are as callous as the person person that ended Lakens life!!...  If I were Steve Id throw your ass off this board for supporting the bullshit you do.. You are not anywhere close to being sane.. You just spout drivel and hate like a spoiled child...

    Breathe Nickers, breathe

    Remember your condition 

    @mld-woody said:

    Breathe Nickers, breathe

    Remember your condition 

    Again... Like the gutless turd you are... You offer nothing of substance

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Well, we are still waiting for you to say Laken Riley's name and admit your "they are here to have a better life"

    was atrociously STUPID and DISHONEST>

    Until then, you are a cowardly bird that is a joke on this forum

    Imagine using a dead girl so callously to push your fucked up, hateful political agenda. You truly are an awful person 

    @mld-woody said:

    hateful political agenda

    We went from racist and xenophobe to this...lol