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  • @mld-woody said:

    Jesus you aren't following along at all, huh?

    I don't care that teams are using NIL. I support the players getting all the money they can. 

    I'm calling out the hypocrisy in Day, who's complaining about tampering, when it's widely believed around the CFB world that Downs and Judkins were technically tampered with. He's also made some "it's the wild west out here!" comments about NIL when he's clearly benefiting from the current state of things. 

    You following along now? 

    And, again, you haven't provided any reputable source that Michigan spent $16M on their roster LAST season. But I know reputable sources aren't really your thing. 

    Then show me your source showing OSU spent 20 million on NIL. 

     

    I’ll wait.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @canton-dawg said:

    Then show me your source showing OSU spent 20 million on NIL. 

     

    I’ll wait.

    One, OSU didn't "spend" anything directly. That's not how NIL works. We might get to players just getting paid by universities (probably not a bad idea), but we're not their yet. 

    Literally OSUs AD is the source....

    https://247sports.com/article/ohio-state-football-players-received-around-20-million-in-nil-deals-this-past-year-ad-ross-bjork-says-234117440/

    https://sports.yahoo.com/as-player-pay-reaches-new-heights-how-will-ohio-state-navigate-uncharted-waters-134419119.html?guccounter=1

    In fact, the university is rich enough that its donor-led collective and brand affiliates disbursed to Buckeyes football players “around $20 million” this past year, said Ross Bjork, the Ohio State athletic director. In all likelihood, that figure ranks first in America.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Then show me your source showing OSU spent 20 million on NIL. 

     

    I’ll wait.

    One, OSU didn't "spend" anything directly. That's not how NIL works. We might get to players just getting paid by universities (probably not a bad idea), but we're not their yet. 

    Literally OSUs AD is the source....

    https://247sports.com/article/ohio-state-football-players-received-around-20-million-in-nil-deals-this-past-year-ad-ross-bjork-says-234117440/

    https://sports.yahoo.com/as-player-pay-reaches-new-heights-how-will-ohio-state-navigate-uncharted-waters-134419119.html?guccounter=1

    In fact, the university is rich enough that its donor-led collective and brand affiliates disbursed to Buckeyes football players “around $20 million” this past year, said Ross Bjork, the Ohio State athletic director. In all likelihood, that figure ranks first in America.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    One, OSU didn't "spend" anything directly. That's not how NIL works. We might get to players just getting paid by universities (probably not a bad idea), but we're not their yet. 

    Literally OSUs AD is the source....

    https://247sports.com/article/ohio-state-football-players-received-around-20-million-in-nil-deals-this-past-year-ad-ross-bjork-says-234117440/

    https://sports.yahoo.com/as-player-pay-reaches-new-heights-how-will-ohio-state-navigate-uncharted-waters-134419119.html?guccounter=1

    In fact, the university is rich enough that its donor-led collective and brand affiliates disbursed to Buckeyes football players “around $20 million” this past year, said Ross Bjork, the Ohio State athletic director. In all likelihood, that figure ranks first in America.

    So you’re using 247 sports as a reference?

    Never heard of them.

  • @mld-woody said:

    One, OSU didn't "spend" anything directly. That's not how NIL works. We might get to players just getting paid by universities (probably not a bad idea), but we're not their yet. 

    Literally OSUs AD is the source....

    https://247sports.com/article/ohio-state-football-players-received-around-20-million-in-nil-deals-this-past-year-ad-ross-bjork-says-234117440/

    https://sports.yahoo.com/as-player-pay-reaches-new-heights-how-will-ohio-state-navigate-uncharted-waters-134419119.html?guccounter=1

    In fact, the university is rich enough that its donor-led collective and brand affiliates disbursed to Buckeyes football players “around $20 million” this past year, said Ross Bjork, the Ohio State athletic director. In all likelihood, that figure ranks first in America.

    So you’re using 247 sports as a reference?

    Never heard of them.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody

    @canton-dawg said:

    So you’re using 247 sports as a reference?

    Never heard of them.

    You've never heard of 247? 

    Dude we're talking about college football right now .... 

    Not to mention I also linked Yahoo Sports 

    Not to mention the source is literally a quote from OSUs AD

    ... I think your response just solidified I'm wasting my time now. Or you're being dense on purpose to weasel out of being incorrect. Or both. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    So you’re using 247 sports as a reference?

    Never heard of them.

    You've never heard of 247? 

    Dude we're talking about college football right now .... 

    Not to mention I also linked Yahoo Sports 

    Not to mention the source is literally a quote from OSUs AD

    ... I think your response just solidified I'm wasting my time now. Or you're being dense on purpose to weasel out of being incorrect. Or both. 

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    You've never heard of 247? 

    Dude we're talking about college football right now .... 

    Not to mention I also linked Yahoo Sports 

    Not to mention the source is literally a quote from OSUs AD

    ... I think your response just solidified I'm wasting my time now. Or you're being dense on purpose to weasel out of being incorrect. Or both. 

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

  • @mld-woody said:

    You've never heard of 247? 

    Dude we're talking about college football right now .... 

    Not to mention I also linked Yahoo Sports 

    Not to mention the source is literally a quote from OSUs AD

    ... I think your response just solidified I'm wasting my time now. Or you're being dense on purpose to weasel out of being incorrect. Or both. 

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @canton-dawg said:

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    I'll go with hoping you're being purposely dense to distract from the original topic as much as possible, as you've realized you've got nothing. 

    Fyi, talking college football and not knowing of 247 is like trying to talk international policy and not knowing about China. Or healthcare and not knowing what a hospital is. 

    I imagine you want the last word to continue muddying this whole back and forth. Go for it. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    You've never heard of 247? 

    Dude we're talking about college football right now .... 

    Not to mention I also linked Yahoo Sports 

    Not to mention the source is literally a quote from OSUs AD

    ... I think your response just solidified I'm wasting my time now. Or you're being dense on purpose to weasel out of being incorrect. Or both. 

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @canton-dawg said:

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    Woody wants to pull a rabbit out of his ass; but only porcupines are volunteering.  Anyway, here's a former Big 10 Coach only aiming for Jim Harbaugh per this article as recent as yesterday.

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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Or it could be that you don’t care about NIL payments?

    Of it could be you’re only concerned about websites reporting that OSU spent 20 million on its players while refusing to believe that Michigan spent 16 million?

    Or maybe you’re refusing to believe that there are other universities spending more than OSU?

    Maybe I’m wasting my time?

    Woody wants to pull a rabbit out of his ass; but only porcupines are volunteering.  Anyway, here's a former Big 10 Coach only aiming for Jim Harbaugh per this article as recent as yesterday.

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    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Woody wants to pull a rabbit out of his ass; but only porcupines are volunteering.  Anyway, here's a former Big 10 Coach only aiming for Jim Harbaugh per this article as recent as yesterday.

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    It’s literally the train he either denies or he doesn’t see coming.

    The funny thing is, the NCAA wasn’t tipped off by anyone at OSU…it came from Ann Arbor! ?


    https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-sign-stealing-scandal-tipped-183456910.html

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF wrote on last edited by

    Not really FB, but still OSU FB   .   .   .  

    Not really a Band fan, but still pretty impressive.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    Funny Ohio State recruiting story...

    David Sanders was a top recruit in the 2025 recruiting class, a five star OTackle from North Carolina. All the southern universities were hot after him, then Ohio State got involved. After some time, it was down to Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia and Clemson. As the early signing date approached in December, it was down to Tennessee and Ohio State.

    Sanders chose to sign with the Volunteers. Then, a few weeks later, out of nowhere it was reported that Sanders and his family were all in Columbus visiting Ohio State... "Is he going to flip?" Everyone who covered Ohio State was caught off guard, there had been no leaks. 

    But sometime during the weekend, Ohio State started getting hip to the fact that Sanders and his family was just using them to get more NIL money out of Tennessee, so they went to him and informed him that they were lowering their NIL offer to him. ?

    Oh, college football in 2025. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

  • I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    What caliber of gun is being held at to your head forcing you to read it?

    None at all. I enjoy the Michigan mega thread 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm going to end this thread here, since the 2024 season is over and start a new one for all the fun new developments of the 2025 Buckeyes and Big Ten related shenanigans... 

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to the next Michigan.... I mean Ohio State mega thread 

    We can start a thread about the punishment that will levied against MU by the NCAA?

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

  • https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45732157/ex-michigan-staffer-conor-stalions-says-knew-most-signals-7-games

    2022.

    The Buckeyes didn't lose in 2021 because of cheating.  They got handled up front.

    They lost in 2023 because of a couple early turnovers and a piss-poor season long (non) rotation along the defensive front.  A giant coaching blunder.

    They didn't lose this past November because of cheating.  Day simply said he was going to run headfirst into a brick wall because he was stronger.   

    2022 is the one I really have an enormous fucking problem with. They didn't get handled along the trenches, the defense played well the entire 1st half and, apart from a couple plays, great in their run fits.   The coaches had some questionable calls early as well.      But even then, going back to chart plays it was pretty painfully obvious by the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, and gearing up into their 3rd drive, that fuckery was about.  

    Release the manifesto 

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

  • @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    @tiamat63 oh and this past November's game was absolutely hilarious. Maybe one of the worst coaching efforts I've ever seen. Idk what Day was thinking. 

    But then they got on a run and won the title so his seat's fine. 

    Get stuffed all game

    Two minute drill of passing right down the field with all star WRs

    Ok now back to running into the two best interior DL in the country 

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I think Stallions is just hanging onto his 15 minutes of fame with these comments (sorta doing a Zach Smith). I also think Stallions had the right combination of neurotic, autism, obsession, etc to be perfect of sign stealing. He just stretched the boundaries. 

    Also, when all of this came out, we had reports of other schools, including OSU, trading with other program sign stealers to get Michigan's signs. Two of OSUs sign stealers out their Venmos on private at that time too. 

    Shit, OSU fans were ridiculous enough to think we hacked their catapult practice video and that's how we beat them or something. 

    Michigan clearly has an enemy within the NCAA, or at least Harbaugh does. The NCAA made comments on this investigation that were unprecedented / against their own rules.

    Not feeling like rehashing it all, but folks that want to make a big deal about it will continue to. Especially OSU and MSU fans. It is what it is. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Oh I know.  For the first time in 20 years, I had to watch that horse abortion sober at home because we ended up having a massive, generational snowfall over the course of the holiday weekend.

     Believe me the Bucks coaching staff, even in the 2022 game, didn't have their shit together.  And some of their calls 2 years ago were poor.  Knowles in particularly 4th quarter.  I'm cautiously guarded about Day, even after a natty.  

     That said, I went back after the scandal broke and charted the entire first half of plays from 2022.  Starting at the end of the Bucks 2nd drive, but swelling significantly at the 3rd drive;   UM had some defensive calls and executions that reappear incredibly curious at minimum, but outright suspicious when pieced together looking back on it.

     So either they pieced together the greatest stretch of independent defensive calls at just the right time to force field goals and punts;  or there was clearly an advanced, comprehensive understanding of tOSUs offensive signal structure copied, deciphered and mastered in advance of The Game. 

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I think Stallions is just hanging onto his 15 minutes of fame with these comments (sorta doing a Zach Smith). I also think Stallions had the right combination of neurotic, autism, obsession, etc to be perfect of sign stealing. He just stretched the boundaries. 

    Also, when all of this came out, we had reports of other schools, including OSU, trading with other program sign stealers to get Michigan's signs. Two of OSUs sign stealers out their Venmos on private at that time too. 

    Shit, OSU fans were ridiculous enough to think we hacked their catapult practice video and that's how we beat them or something. 

    Michigan clearly has an enemy within the NCAA, or at least Harbaugh does. The NCAA made comments on this investigation that were unprecedented / against their own rules.

    Not feeling like rehashing it all, but folks that want to make a big deal about it will continue to. Especially OSU and MSU fans. It is what it is. 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @mld-woody said:

    I mean, we'll agree to disagree I guess. I

    There just must be a "deep state" within the NCAA, huh?   Meanhile we all seemingly belong to our Cult of Emotional Appeal.

     When I can piece together plays where defenders abandon assignments and play well beyond logical structure, then any professional will see it as well when they pop on tape.  Not to mention Vegas' interest in covering spreads at a historic pace. 

      UM will get a piece of the hammer, deservedly so.  Stallions is far removed from the game of football where he doesnt belong, and we can all get back to normal week 1.  

     Looking forward to another season.