Mangini keeping starting QB "secret" until Wednesday
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RIP's a fraud. He tries to present logic based arguments then irrationally spins things that don't go his way.
DA was benched twice now by 2 different regimes to give Quinn playing time. The only factual thing that tells you is that both regimes didn't see DA as worth building a team around otherwise he'd have NEVER been benched.
I guess in RIP's world its called something else other than "losing your job". Whatever.
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Spin? Nope. Just the way it is. Quinn is worse than poor ole backup potential DA. Reality sucks man. I wish Quinn was the man, but he ain't. When BE is highstepping into the endzone this Sunday after a TD catch, well, you get the picture.
Quinn may not be the man...there is no debating that. Its your spin that DA never lost his job that is whacked. DA sucks and is not the answer and has lost his job once and lost two QB competitions (I won't count the competition in Balt. since I don't know if he was really in it there....since Boller was so much better).
Quinn may not be the man...there is no debating that. Its your spin that DA never lost his job that is whacked. DA sucks and is not the answer and has lost his job once and lost two QB competitions (I won't count the competition in Balt. since I don't know if he was really in it there....since Boller was so much better).
DA has never been in a real QB competition. Frye and Quinn were always the guys but because they sucked so bad they used DA as sort of a "match under their ass" tool. In the process, DA has never been coached up or treated like the starter and so his "bad decisions" which by the way are the EASIEST part of a QB's game to fix, have never been addressed. In fact, you can plan an entire offense around a guy who's only flaw is "bad decisions". Simply make the 1st and 2nd options, safer throws. Then, rocket arm can dump it off safely. When those options are covered, then he can take his shot. This will cut down the number of forced throws and make the QB's job eaiser. In the process, the game slows down for the QB and eventually, VIOLA!! You have a bonified starter.
Whay not do this with Quinn? Well well well. It's because Quinn has real trouble getting the ball to anybody who is moving. Watch the tape guys it's a fact. It's because his release is slow and the only way to speed that up is to short arm the throws which lead to inaccurate balls. Did I just say inaccurate balls? Ha! Anyway, the only way for him to get zip on his throws is going with the Tim Coach delivery. Using his entire body. This slows down his delivery and balls get there late. Thus, he cannot play at this level. And no coach or scheme will design plays where the targets stand still and wait so Quinn cannot play at this level.
Has anyone started the Kevin Kolb to Cleveland movement yet? I wanna be the 1st!!!!
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Gay
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DA has more problems than decisions. His mechanics are limited, though he can rifle a ball downfield. I think Mangini wants a pure passer like Carson Palmer or somebody like Bradford,Pike ete in this draft.
DA just is to help us score some points.
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BQ should ask for a trade a good look at the nfl footage of the crap daboll had him doing with very limited options wont stop him from getting on a team as a starter or future starter...
As for mangini and the current browns and lerner screw em all...
This excuse never worked for DA and he has a great arm and a great ability to take secondaries apart. But somehow, BQ's poor arm and his total lack of awareness and poise, can be blamed on the coaches? Riiiiiight
This excuse never worked for DA and he has a great arm and a great ability to take secondaries apart. But somehow, BQ's poor arm and his total lack of awareness and poise, can be blamed on the coaches? Riiiiiight
I'm seeing some blame the coaches, some blame the team. It used to be all on DA. IF DA starts from here on and finishes near or above 50%, it'll be curious to see if he gets any credit from those who blame everyone but BQ.
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This Quinn/ DA debate is simply asinine. You can put in Tom Brady, Brett Farve, and both Mannings. But until you get an O Line that gels and gives you some kind of running game, there will 1 offensive TD the rest of the year. Think about it, how many rushing yards did we have during the 10-5 season? When a defense knows you can't run, then why hog the line?
Secondly, our defense sucks. We would have had to score 35 points to win the last game. This team has so many issues and to think that one QB over another is going to make a difference is pure craziness.
To be quite honest I'm shocked that Mangini is playing into. I'll also be honest and say I'm Quinn supporter. I'll be honest once more and say that I'm a DA supporter. I'm a supporter of whomever puts on a browns uniform and gives the best chance to win the game. The debate over the QB is like trying to figure out who is going to help us look like we belong in the NFL.
Concentrate on getting line to push someone downfield and we'll have a fighting chance.
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This excuse never worked for DA and he has a great arm and a great ability to take secondaries apart. But somehow, BQ's poor arm and his total lack of awareness and poise, can be blamed on the coaches? Riiiiiight
I'm seeing some blame the coaches, some blame the team. It used to be all on DA. IF DA starts from here on and finishes near or above 50%, it'll be curious to see if he gets any credit from those who blame everyone but BQ.
IF DA starts from here on and finishes near or above 50%, it'll be curious to see if he gets any credit from those who blame everyone but BQ.
If DA starts from here on out and the Browns finish .500 or better, I'll eat more than my hat.
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This Quinn/ DA debate is simply asinine. You can put in Tom Brady, Brett Farve, and both Mannings. But until you get an O Line that gels and gives you some kind of running game, there will 1 offensive TD the rest of the year. Think about it, how many rushing yards did we have during the 10-5 season? When a defense knows you can't run, then why hog the line?
Secondly, our defense sucks. We would have had to score 35 points to win the last game. This team has so many issues and to think that one QB over another is going to make a difference is pure craziness.
To be quite honest I'm shocked that Mangini is playing into. I'll also be honest and say I'm Quinn supporter. I'll be honest once more and say that I'm a DA supporter. I'm a supporter of whomever puts on a browns uniform and gives the best chance to win the game. The debate over the QB is like trying to figure out who is going to help us look like we belong in the NFL.
Concentrate on getting line to push someone downfield and we'll have a fighting chance.
This Quinn/ DA debate is simply asinine. You can put in Tom Brady, Brett Farve, and both Mannings. But until you get an O Line that gels and gives you some kind of running game, there will 1 offensive TD the rest of the year. Think about it, how many rushing yards did we have during the 10-5 season? When a defense knows you can't run, then why hog the line?
Secondly, our defense sucks. We would have had to score 35 points to win the last game. This team has so many issues and to think that one QB over another is going to make a difference is pure craziness.
To be quite honest I'm shocked that Mangini is playing into. I'll also be honest and say I'm Quinn supporter. I'll be honest once more and say that I'm a DA supporter. I'm a supporter of whomever puts on a browns uniform and gives the best chance to win the game. The debate over the QB is like trying to figure out who is going to help us look like we belong in the NFL.
Concentrate on getting line to push someone downfield and we'll have a fighting chance.
Sorry, but you can only take this excuse so far. Yes, better QB play would help.......a ton. The OL actually didn't do that bad vs. the Ravens. The QB..........whew.
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@shepwrite said:
Well, at least we have a new and kinda funny catchphrase: "Limited mechanics."BRILLIANT!
("I'm really trying to raise the ceiling on my mechanics.")
I hear Quinn has quantum mechanics. And after starting out 3-0, Mark Sanchez has Popular Mechanics.
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If I'm Mangini.. I want to wait til Wednesday too so the players are back and you can address the whole team.. Not sure why this is upsetting to anyone.
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Because many on this board can't wait until Wednesday to bitch about who Mangini chose.
Its obvious mangini will choose DA to be his saviour just like romeo did and this team and mangini are beyond saving at this point if mangini had a lick of sense he would grab the 5 worst starting players on both sides of the ball and waive them and bring in some FAs...ohhh oops thats right Agents are not directing their mercenaries to cleveland because the owner and coach suck...oh well mangini you lying lowdown unhonest corrupt inept scumball you get to watch your career die in a humiliating and very public way ya cant hide what you got comin...
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I really don't understand why this team would even think about playing DA. This year is a lost cause, and was a lost cause no matter who started, so why not use it to evaluate Quinn? 2 1/2 games against a collection of undefeated teams isn't enough, even though it was painful to watch. Play Quinn at least half the year.
DA has proven himself to be a backup. He's just too inconsistent to lead a quality team. I have my doubts about Quinn given what we've seen so far, but WHAT IS THE POINT of playing DA? You're throwing away a good opportunity to further eval Quinn, unless you think you've seen enough in 2 1/2 games this year to give up on him (and even though he looked pretty good until he got hurt last year). I just don't see any good reason for doing anything other than playing Quinn.
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