Myles Garrett Requests Trade
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I read that this actually obligates him to 6 years total to the Browns with a no trade clause.
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I read that this actually obligates him to 6 years total to the Browns with a no trade clause.
I read that this actually obligates him to 6 years total to the Browns with a no trade clause.
So this extension carries him through the 2030 season?
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I read that this actually obligates him to 6 years total to the Browns with a no trade clause.
So this extension carries him through the 2030 season?
So this extension carries him through the 2030 season?
According to Fox Sports, that is correct.
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Thinking about Garrett’s prospects at the NFL career sacks record, currently held by Bruce Smith with 200. That guy played for 19 seasons!
Garrett has played 8 seasons so far and has 102.5 sacks. Bruce Smith had 92 in his first 8 seasons. If Garrett can endure he’s got a shot.
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There’s a recent Jason Lloyd article in The Athletic titled “Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.” It has some good observations, gonna link and paste it below.
Myles Garrett is the most feared and ferocious pass rusher of his generation. No one in the NFL was double-teamed more last year and he still managed 14 sacks while working into the Defensive Player of the Year conversation on a three-win team.
Garrett is the type of player who makes offensive line coaches — not to mention tackles and guards — tremble. Teams build their blocking schemes every week around accounting for him at all times. If he stays healthy, Garrett’s retirement will most certainly reside with a bust inside the Hall of Fame.
None of that can be disputed and all of it is important context.
Yet I still believe the Browns should have traded Garrett rather than signing him to a historic extension. Not because of Garrett’s trade request, but rather because it was in the best interest of the franchise given the intersection where this team resides and Garrett’s career timeline.
I’m fully aware of the cap complications a Garrett trade presented. The line of suitors would have been just as long in June when a trade would’ve been a bit more manageable than it is now.
All of that is irrelevant following Garrett’s mammoth extension that will earn him $40 million per season and guarantees him $123 million. He is a Cleveland Brown for the foreseeable future and perhaps for the rest of his career, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Nevertheless, the Browns are not close to a Super Bowl. The Deshaun Watson trade wrecked the contention window with this group of veterans. The Browns are in denial to believe otherwise.
Can they find a veteran quarterback this month and maybe scrape into the playoffs next year as a seventh seed? Sure. This is the NFL and the teams at the bottom of the playoffs rotate annually. But there is a wide gap between playoff contender and viable Super Bowl contender. The Browns are not realistically contending for a Super Bowl in 2025. The list of things that have to go right for this team to be a Super Bowl contender in 2026 is longer than the number of things that have gone right for this franchise in the last 25 years.
Garrett seemed to realize that when he initially made his trade request known, and nothing has changed in the weeks since, other than the amount of zeroes Jimmy Haslam put in front of him.
That’s how Haslam solves all of his problems: by throwing money at them.
For the record, spending money is obviously paramount to winning in any league. I’ve known executives in various sports who have passed on jobs as a general manager because of an owner’s lack of spending.
Haslam’s biggest hammer as an NFL owner is his checkbook. The Browns spent more money last year than any other team in league history. They’ve spent more than $1 billion in cash over the past four years, far more than any other team. The Browns restructure contracts to create cap space as well as any team in the league, but they don’t have one playoff victory to show for all that spending since 2021 because check writing is Haslam’s only tool in the bag.
Watson says, no, he won’t come to Cleveland?
Give him the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.
Garrett says he wants out?
Give him the largest non-quarterback contract in NFL history.
The Haslams have owned the Browns for more than a decade and still can’t seem to get the culture part right. At times under Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, it appeared the organization was finally figuring out how to operate like an actual NFL franchise. Then came the Watson debacle and everything that has followed, and it’s fair to wonder if anything has changed.
Haslam did exactly what he should’ve done when Garrett asked for a meeting. He told him to talk to Berry. Perfect response. The problem was Garrett’s side more than likely leaked publicly that Haslam wouldn’t meet with his best player and it was framed as if Haslam somehow did something wrong. He didn’t. But Garrett’s excellent negotiating team threw the perfect punch at the perfect time. Within days, Garrett had a new deal.
I was having dinner at the combine a couple of weeks ago with an assistant coach on what would widely be viewed as a successful NFL franchise.
“If Jimmy Haslam spent two weeks with us, he’d throw up at the amount of money he wastes,” the coach told me. His point was that while money is important, it takes a lot more than just throwing cash at head wounds to win in this league.
As for Garrett, at which point was he being truthful? When he said his plan was never to go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for a Super Bowl? When he said on the “Rich Eisen Show” that it wasn’t about the money, that he just wanted to win a championship? When he was aggravated two years ago with all the losing and close to going public with his unhappiness?
Garrett had no leverage in this. The Browns controlled his rights for the next four seasons, counting franchise tags. Yet Garrett and his representatives still managed a no-trade clause in his new deal, giving him all the leverage and power in this relationship from this day forward, just as Watson had all the power with his massive, fully guaranteed deal.
Garrett will make an average of $40 million a season into his early 30s. Bruce Smith and Reggie White, two players Garrett is most often compared to, were still highly productive into their late 30s. So there’s reason to believe Garrett can still produce at a high level deep into his career. But it’s easy to see the risk in this, too.
For as dominant as Garrett has been throughout his first eight years, the Browns have won nothing with him on the roster. Trading him while his value was at its peak could’ve netted the type of return necessary to maximize the search yet again for a franchise quarterback. This organization isn’t winning anything substantive at a high level without one.
I hope, at the very least, this contract brings a sense of responsibility rather than entitlement for Garrett.
It’s well known within the Browns that Garrett is frequently late to the facility. He has skipped mandatory team activities on multiple occasions. Veterans typically police the locker room on those types of things and create the culture of accountability, but here, it’s the best player breaking the rules. That has to change now.
Elite performers earn more forgiveness than anyone. That’s true in any business. But there’s a certain level of responsibility that comes with a contract of this magnitude.
If Garrett truly wanted out of Cleveland, if he really wanted to prioritize winning at this stage of life, those feelings won’t dissipate because of a few extra zeroes on his checks.
It’s clear by now that Watson never wanted to be in Cleveland. He took the money and we know how it ended.
Now it’s Garrett’s turn. The money is generational wealth for whatever he wants to accomplish in life.
But it won’t buy him a Lombardi Trophy.
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There’s a recent Jason Lloyd article in The Athletic titled “Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.” It has some good observations, gonna link and paste it below.
Myles Garrett is the most feared and ferocious pass rusher of his generation. No one in the NFL was double-teamed more last year and he still managed 14 sacks while working into the Defensive Player of the Year conversation on a three-win team.
Garrett is the type of player who makes offensive line coaches — not to mention tackles and guards — tremble. Teams build their blocking schemes every week around accounting for him at all times. If he stays healthy, Garrett’s retirement will most certainly reside with a bust inside the Hall of Fame.
None of that can be disputed and all of it is important context.
Yet I still believe the Browns should have traded Garrett rather than signing him to a historic extension. Not because of Garrett’s trade request, but rather because it was in the best interest of the franchise given the intersection where this team resides and Garrett’s career timeline.
I’m fully aware of the cap complications a Garrett trade presented. The line of suitors would have been just as long in June when a trade would’ve been a bit more manageable than it is now.
All of that is irrelevant following Garrett’s mammoth extension that will earn him $40 million per season and guarantees him $123 million. He is a Cleveland Brown for the foreseeable future and perhaps for the rest of his career, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Nevertheless, the Browns are not close to a Super Bowl. The Deshaun Watson trade wrecked the contention window with this group of veterans. The Browns are in denial to believe otherwise.
Can they find a veteran quarterback this month and maybe scrape into the playoffs next year as a seventh seed? Sure. This is the NFL and the teams at the bottom of the playoffs rotate annually. But there is a wide gap between playoff contender and viable Super Bowl contender. The Browns are not realistically contending for a Super Bowl in 2025. The list of things that have to go right for this team to be a Super Bowl contender in 2026 is longer than the number of things that have gone right for this franchise in the last 25 years.
Garrett seemed to realize that when he initially made his trade request known, and nothing has changed in the weeks since, other than the amount of zeroes Jimmy Haslam put in front of him.
That’s how Haslam solves all of his problems: by throwing money at them.
For the record, spending money is obviously paramount to winning in any league. I’ve known executives in various sports who have passed on jobs as a general manager because of an owner’s lack of spending.
Haslam’s biggest hammer as an NFL owner is his checkbook. The Browns spent more money last year than any other team in league history. They’ve spent more than $1 billion in cash over the past four years, far more than any other team. The Browns restructure contracts to create cap space as well as any team in the league, but they don’t have one playoff victory to show for all that spending since 2021 because check writing is Haslam’s only tool in the bag.
Watson says, no, he won’t come to Cleveland?
Give him the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.
Garrett says he wants out?
Give him the largest non-quarterback contract in NFL history.
The Haslams have owned the Browns for more than a decade and still can’t seem to get the culture part right. At times under Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, it appeared the organization was finally figuring out how to operate like an actual NFL franchise. Then came the Watson debacle and everything that has followed, and it’s fair to wonder if anything has changed.
Haslam did exactly what he should’ve done when Garrett asked for a meeting. He told him to talk to Berry. Perfect response. The problem was Garrett’s side more than likely leaked publicly that Haslam wouldn’t meet with his best player and it was framed as if Haslam somehow did something wrong. He didn’t. But Garrett’s excellent negotiating team threw the perfect punch at the perfect time. Within days, Garrett had a new deal.
I was having dinner at the combine a couple of weeks ago with an assistant coach on what would widely be viewed as a successful NFL franchise.
“If Jimmy Haslam spent two weeks with us, he’d throw up at the amount of money he wastes,” the coach told me. His point was that while money is important, it takes a lot more than just throwing cash at head wounds to win in this league.
As for Garrett, at which point was he being truthful? When he said his plan was never to go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for a Super Bowl? When he said on the “Rich Eisen Show” that it wasn’t about the money, that he just wanted to win a championship? When he was aggravated two years ago with all the losing and close to going public with his unhappiness?
Garrett had no leverage in this. The Browns controlled his rights for the next four seasons, counting franchise tags. Yet Garrett and his representatives still managed a no-trade clause in his new deal, giving him all the leverage and power in this relationship from this day forward, just as Watson had all the power with his massive, fully guaranteed deal.
Garrett will make an average of $40 million a season into his early 30s. Bruce Smith and Reggie White, two players Garrett is most often compared to, were still highly productive into their late 30s. So there’s reason to believe Garrett can still produce at a high level deep into his career. But it’s easy to see the risk in this, too.
For as dominant as Garrett has been throughout his first eight years, the Browns have won nothing with him on the roster. Trading him while his value was at its peak could’ve netted the type of return necessary to maximize the search yet again for a franchise quarterback. This organization isn’t winning anything substantive at a high level without one.
I hope, at the very least, this contract brings a sense of responsibility rather than entitlement for Garrett.
It’s well known within the Browns that Garrett is frequently late to the facility. He has skipped mandatory team activities on multiple occasions. Veterans typically police the locker room on those types of things and create the culture of accountability, but here, it’s the best player breaking the rules. That has to change now.
Elite performers earn more forgiveness than anyone. That’s true in any business. But there’s a certain level of responsibility that comes with a contract of this magnitude.
If Garrett truly wanted out of Cleveland, if he really wanted to prioritize winning at this stage of life, those feelings won’t dissipate because of a few extra zeroes on his checks.
It’s clear by now that Watson never wanted to be in Cleveland. He took the money and we know how it ended.
Now it’s Garrett’s turn. The money is generational wealth for whatever he wants to accomplish in life.
But it won’t buy him a Lombardi Trophy.
Now it’s Garrett’s turn. The money is generational wealth for whatever he wants to accomplish in life.
But it won’t buy him a Lombardi Trophy.
Nope, but now he gets his own successful dinosaur museum in College Station if he so chooses. Hell even JFF is still treated as a legendary hero there despite trashing an NFL career. Von Miller runs a successful real chicken ranch with real chickens (too bad cause I really liked the original in La Grange).?
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There’s a recent Jason Lloyd article in The Athletic titled “Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.” It has some good observations, gonna link and paste it below.
Myles Garrett is the most feared and ferocious pass rusher of his generation. No one in the NFL was double-teamed more last year and he still managed 14 sacks while working into the Defensive Player of the Year conversation on a three-win team.
Garrett is the type of player who makes offensive line coaches — not to mention tackles and guards — tremble. Teams build their blocking schemes every week around accounting for him at all times. If he stays healthy, Garrett’s retirement will most certainly reside with a bust inside the Hall of Fame.
None of that can be disputed and all of it is important context.
Yet I still believe the Browns should have traded Garrett rather than signing him to a historic extension. Not because of Garrett’s trade request, but rather because it was in the best interest of the franchise given the intersection where this team resides and Garrett’s career timeline.
I’m fully aware of the cap complications a Garrett trade presented. The line of suitors would have been just as long in June when a trade would’ve been a bit more manageable than it is now.
All of that is irrelevant following Garrett’s mammoth extension that will earn him $40 million per season and guarantees him $123 million. He is a Cleveland Brown for the foreseeable future and perhaps for the rest of his career, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Nevertheless, the Browns are not close to a Super Bowl. The Deshaun Watson trade wrecked the contention window with this group of veterans. The Browns are in denial to believe otherwise.
Can they find a veteran quarterback this month and maybe scrape into the playoffs next year as a seventh seed? Sure. This is the NFL and the teams at the bottom of the playoffs rotate annually. But there is a wide gap between playoff contender and viable Super Bowl contender. The Browns are not realistically contending for a Super Bowl in 2025. The list of things that have to go right for this team to be a Super Bowl contender in 2026 is longer than the number of things that have gone right for this franchise in the last 25 years.
Garrett seemed to realize that when he initially made his trade request known, and nothing has changed in the weeks since, other than the amount of zeroes Jimmy Haslam put in front of him.
That’s how Haslam solves all of his problems: by throwing money at them.
For the record, spending money is obviously paramount to winning in any league. I’ve known executives in various sports who have passed on jobs as a general manager because of an owner’s lack of spending.
Haslam’s biggest hammer as an NFL owner is his checkbook. The Browns spent more money last year than any other team in league history. They’ve spent more than $1 billion in cash over the past four years, far more than any other team. The Browns restructure contracts to create cap space as well as any team in the league, but they don’t have one playoff victory to show for all that spending since 2021 because check writing is Haslam’s only tool in the bag.
Watson says, no, he won’t come to Cleveland?
Give him the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.
Garrett says he wants out?
Give him the largest non-quarterback contract in NFL history.
The Haslams have owned the Browns for more than a decade and still can’t seem to get the culture part right. At times under Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, it appeared the organization was finally figuring out how to operate like an actual NFL franchise. Then came the Watson debacle and everything that has followed, and it’s fair to wonder if anything has changed.
Haslam did exactly what he should’ve done when Garrett asked for a meeting. He told him to talk to Berry. Perfect response. The problem was Garrett’s side more than likely leaked publicly that Haslam wouldn’t meet with his best player and it was framed as if Haslam somehow did something wrong. He didn’t. But Garrett’s excellent negotiating team threw the perfect punch at the perfect time. Within days, Garrett had a new deal.
I was having dinner at the combine a couple of weeks ago with an assistant coach on what would widely be viewed as a successful NFL franchise.
“If Jimmy Haslam spent two weeks with us, he’d throw up at the amount of money he wastes,” the coach told me. His point was that while money is important, it takes a lot more than just throwing cash at head wounds to win in this league.
As for Garrett, at which point was he being truthful? When he said his plan was never to go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for a Super Bowl? When he said on the “Rich Eisen Show” that it wasn’t about the money, that he just wanted to win a championship? When he was aggravated two years ago with all the losing and close to going public with his unhappiness?
Garrett had no leverage in this. The Browns controlled his rights for the next four seasons, counting franchise tags. Yet Garrett and his representatives still managed a no-trade clause in his new deal, giving him all the leverage and power in this relationship from this day forward, just as Watson had all the power with his massive, fully guaranteed deal.
Garrett will make an average of $40 million a season into his early 30s. Bruce Smith and Reggie White, two players Garrett is most often compared to, were still highly productive into their late 30s. So there’s reason to believe Garrett can still produce at a high level deep into his career. But it’s easy to see the risk in this, too.
For as dominant as Garrett has been throughout his first eight years, the Browns have won nothing with him on the roster. Trading him while his value was at its peak could’ve netted the type of return necessary to maximize the search yet again for a franchise quarterback. This organization isn’t winning anything substantive at a high level without one.
I hope, at the very least, this contract brings a sense of responsibility rather than entitlement for Garrett.
It’s well known within the Browns that Garrett is frequently late to the facility. He has skipped mandatory team activities on multiple occasions. Veterans typically police the locker room on those types of things and create the culture of accountability, but here, it’s the best player breaking the rules. That has to change now.
Elite performers earn more forgiveness than anyone. That’s true in any business. But there’s a certain level of responsibility that comes with a contract of this magnitude.
If Garrett truly wanted out of Cleveland, if he really wanted to prioritize winning at this stage of life, those feelings won’t dissipate because of a few extra zeroes on his checks.
It’s clear by now that Watson never wanted to be in Cleveland. He took the money and we know how it ended.
Now it’s Garrett’s turn. The money is generational wealth for whatever he wants to accomplish in life.
But it won’t buy him a Lombardi Trophy.
“Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.”
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
“Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.”
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
As often as I agree with Dutch - I couldn't get cozy with the idea of trading Myles with an idea of drafting Abdul Carter at #2 overall (currently sporting a shoulder and a lower extremity injury). During the college football season how often was Carter even brought up? 12 sacks in 15 college games (against many LTs that won't be playing in the NFL) is good but not other worldly enough to justify spinning our wheels. Adding the injuries + Rosenhaus could be a bigger headache than people think. I'm not saying I'm right - I'm just giving why I'm thinking the way I am about it.
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“Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.”
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
It was less the idea of trading Garrett than it was certain points in the article that l thought made it a good read. I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
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“Browns should have traded Myles Garrett Instead of signing him to historic extension.”
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
That is true, and I definitely agree with Jason Lloyd, this team is not built for anything beyond a fluke wild card appearance. The roster needs to be rebuilt imo, and it makes you wonder how good Myles would be by the time the Browns would be a real contender.
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Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
It was less the idea of trading Garrett than it was certain points in the article that l thought made it a good read. I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
I'm not one to give the Haslem's any credit, but I think he handled the turning down of a meeting with Myles properly. Myles is one of the players. You definitely cannot allow players to go 'over the heads' of their supervisors (HC, GM, Player Personnel Director, etc.).
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
That is true, and I definitely agree with Jason Lloyd, this team is not built for anything beyond a fluke wild card appearance. The roster needs to be rebuilt imo, and it makes you wonder how good Myles would be by the time the Browns would be a real contender.
I definitely agree with Jason Lloyd, this team is not built for anything beyond a fluke wild card appearance.
Right. Because we don't have a QB. (having Picket as your starter is as close to not having one as it gets - until proven otherwise) But Berry has started addressing the OL. He's added to the DL. We do have a fairly good D that's not far off from being really good again. On offense, the OL is in process....RB needs addressing (which a draft pick 'could' actually fix as they can start day 1)...the TE position needs help for Stef's offense....the WR position has been addressed and will probably be addressed again in the draft. I don't see the Offense being very far off.......if it weren't for the QB position.....because without one, you actually are - very far off.
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I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
I'm not one to give the Haslem's any credit, but I think he handled the turning down of a meeting with Myles properly. Myles is one of the players. You definitely cannot allow players to go 'over the heads' of their supervisors (HC, GM, Player Personnel Director, etc.).
I'm not one to give the Haslem's any credit, but I think he handled the turning down of a meeting with Myles properly. Myles is one of the players. You definitely cannot allow players to go 'over the heads' of their supervisors (HC, GM, Player Personnel Director, etc.).
There’s really only 2 things a fan base wants from an owner. Write checks and make good decisions. Haslam is great at the first part, not so great at the second.
I think we’ve seen enough of Haslam to know he’s a people pleaser. Not the worst thing, they are generally pleasant people to be around.
But you can’t be at the top of any food chain without having a comfortable pair of asshole pants. Sometimes you gotta say “no.” Sometimes you gotta say “fuck you, no.” Sure, it’s fine that he turned down the meeting. But then he turns around and succumbs to Garrett’s demands? Come on. Haslam is a sucker for public perception and it’s a limiting factor on what he could achieve.
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Yeah, I ain't reading the article. I don't want the only guy that puts us on the map traded.
This has been Dutch's position all along. And I understand the logic. And I'm certain that Schwartz understands the logic....but if they traded Myles can you even imagine all of the swear words that would've emanated from Schwatrz's mouth?
It was less the idea of trading Garrett than it was certain points in the article that l thought made it a good read. I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
It was less the idea of trading Garrett than it was certain points in the article that l thought made it a good read. I’ll footnote it for you lazy asses.
1) Haslam spends money, it’s his solution to everything, but he doesn’t spend it well. We’re basically the Dodgers of the NFL without the postseason success.
2) Haslam didn’t have to extend Garrett. Garrett had no leverage in this ordeal other than the leverage Haslam gave him, which was significant, but unnecessary.
3) I didn’t realize Garrett was lacking in certain “good veteran” qualities. The article mentions he’s frequently late and has skipped mandatory team activities in the past.
It’s actually great that we have an owner willing to write big checks, but if those big paydays are misdirected then you can see how it leads to a culture problem.
Well done IBB! A BIG part of an owner's job if they want to do anything beyond paying generous contracts is to make sure they have an awesome GM and drafting talent. As great as Berry can be with the salary cap - the amount of talent needed to win here in the AFC North leaves a lot to be desired aside from QB. He also might want to look into a better Sports Med/Medical staff with all our high volumes of injuries and all those re-appearing.
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In the press conference today - or perhaps an interview after - someone asked Myles if he knew what the plan was at QB and if he liked it if he did.
"I have a pretty good idea of what we are going to do and I wouldn't be here if I didn't like the idea".
Take that for what you will, but I'll be shocked if the Browns don't take a QB at #2, or possibly even trade up to #1 and take a QB.
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I'm not one to give the Haslem's any credit, but I think he handled the turning down of a meeting with Myles properly. Myles is one of the players. You definitely cannot allow players to go 'over the heads' of their supervisors (HC, GM, Player Personnel Director, etc.).
There’s really only 2 things a fan base wants from an owner. Write checks and make good decisions. Haslam is great at the first part, not so great at the second.
I think we’ve seen enough of Haslam to know he’s a people pleaser. Not the worst thing, they are generally pleasant people to be around.
But you can’t be at the top of any food chain without having a comfortable pair of asshole pants. Sometimes you gotta say “no.” Sometimes you gotta say “fuck you, no.” Sure, it’s fine that he turned down the meeting. But then he turns around and succumbs to Garrett’s demands? Come on. Haslam is a sucker for public perception and it’s a limiting factor on what he could achieve.
There’s really only 2 things a fan base wants from an owner. Write checks and make good decisions.
We haven't had anyone get that second part right this century.
In the press conference today - or perhaps an interview after - someone asked Myles if he knew what the plan was at QB and if he liked it if he did.
"I have a pretty good idea of what we are going to do and I wouldn't be here if I didn't like the idea".
Take that for what you will, but I'll be shocked if the Browns don't take a QB at #2, or possibly even trade up to #1 and take a QB.
Where would Myles be if he didn't like the idea? As for 'a pretty good idea'.....and nothin' but Pickett....it does seem to point to some other method.
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There’s really only 2 things a fan base wants from an owner. Write checks and make good decisions.
We haven't had anyone get that second part right this century.
In the press conference today - or perhaps an interview after - someone asked Myles if he knew what the plan was at QB and if he liked it if he did.
"I have a pretty good idea of what we are going to do and I wouldn't be here if I didn't like the idea".
Take that for what you will, but I'll be shocked if the Browns don't take a QB at #2, or possibly even trade up to #1 and take a QB.
Where would Myles be if he didn't like the idea? As for 'a pretty good idea'.....and nothin' but Pickett....it does seem to point to some other method.
Where would Myles be if he didn't like the idea? As for 'a pretty good idea'.....and nothin' but Pickett....it does seem to point to some other method.
He'd continue to hold out until the Browns finally got the idea that he didn't want to ever play here again.
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He's continue to hold out until the Browns finally got the idea that he didn't want to ever play here again.
...and so they promised him they'd draft a QB with pick #2...
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He's continue to hold out until the Browns finally got the idea that he didn't want to ever play here again.
...and so they promised him they'd draft a QB with pick #2...
...and so they promised him they'd draft a QB with pick #2...
In a shitty draft for QBs...
But yes, it does appear that way by what he said, right?
I can't imagine old retreads like Cousins or Wilson is making Myles go "Well NOW I'm excited about the direction this team is going!"
The Browns were being let off the hook PR-wise by having Myles loudly demand a trade, a trade that could have kick-started the Browns rebuild heading towards Brookpark, but Haslam was too stupid or proud to let it happen, so he did what he always does: He threw a ton of money at a situation.
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