American views on Israel
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Ah, right, "the polls don't count cuz I disagree with what they say"
I look at my answer, and then at the response to it from you and can only wonder. What fuck is wrong with you?
I look at my answer, and then at the response to it from you and can only wonder. What fuck is wrong with you?
Your immediate response was to poke at the legitimacy of polls. And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016.
If you aren't attacking the accuracy of the poll, and you recognize the legitimacy of the results, then my mistake. But your first post was not giving that indication
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baloney, woodpecker, it's you who have dissed every single media source, every poll you don't like.
Your famous "so and so doesn't know how polls work" gets tweeted so much of the time, when the poll shows you are a very, very, very dishonest, belligerent, and stupid bird.
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Mar 3, 2025Indeed, more than 8 in 10 Americans believe that ending the war necessitates the end of Hamas's rule in Gaza (82 percent), and a virtually identical 81 percent of Americans support Israel's ...
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"haha"
https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-trumps-support-israel/story?id=118962257
' "Much of that change was driven by Democrats, 35 percent of whom sympathized with the Palestinians in the latest poll, compared to 27 percent in the late January survey. Indeed, 60 percent of Republicans in the latest survey said they sympathized more with Israelis — about the same share as in January. Sixty-seven percent of Republicans also said Trump’s support for Israel in the Israel-Hamas war has been “about right,” signalling they approve of his approach so far. In comparison, 12 percent of Democrats and 25 percent of independents said the same — with larger shares saying Trump has been “too supportive of Israel.” '
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baloney, woodpecker, it's you who have dissed every single media source, every poll you don't like.
Your famous "so and so doesn't know how polls work" gets tweeted so much of the time, when the poll shows you are a very, very, very dishonest, belligerent, and stupid bird.
baloney, woodpecker, it's you who have dissed every single media source, every poll you don't like.
Your famous "so and so doesn't know how polls work" gets tweeted so much of the time, when the poll shows you are a very, very, very dishonest, belligerent, and stupid bird.
I have no idea what world you live in most of the time but it isn't this one.
Are you calling the pew data I posted fake?
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from the link above: (democommies are the HATE party)
"Sympathies in Israel-Hamas conflict show partisan split
Share of Democratic, Republican and independent Americans who said their sympathies in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict lay more with the Israelis, the Palestinians, or both about equally, in a YouGov/The Economist Poll from Feb. 9-11"
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"haha"
https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-trumps-support-israel/story?id=118962257
' "Much of that change was driven by Democrats, 35 percent of whom sympathized with the Palestinians in the latest poll, compared to 27 percent in the late January survey. Indeed, 60 percent of Republicans in the latest survey said they sympathized more with Israelis — about the same share as in January. Sixty-seven percent of Republicans also said Trump’s support for Israel in the Israel-Hamas war has been “about right,” signalling they approve of his approach so far. In comparison, 12 percent of Democrats and 25 percent of independents said the same — with larger shares saying Trump has been “too supportive of Israel.” '
"haha"
https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-trumps-support-israel/story?id=118962257
' "Much of that change was driven by Democrats, 35 percent of whom sympathized with the Palestinians in the latest poll, compared to 27 percent in the late January survey. Indeed, 60 percent of Republicans in the latest survey said they sympathized more with Israelis — about the same share as in January. Sixty-seven percent of Republicans also said Trump’s support for Israel in the Israel-Hamas war has been “about right,” signalling they approve of his approach so far. In comparison, 12 percent of Democrats and 25 percent of independents said the same — with larger shares saying Trump has been “too supportive of Israel.” '
Another example of cal posting a link and not reading it. Or maybe you did and you just can't follow along. Maybe you need some right wing blogger on red state feeding you propaganda every other sentence. Either way, this doesn't support you near as much as you think, as it shows building views critical of Trump and Israel, and references polls two months older than what I posted above.
Arguing with you about math and Israel is a bad combination, too of your weaknesses, so this obviously isn't going anywhere.
A growing share of Americans are souring on Israel and their continued genocide of Palestinians. You can want that not to be true, but the polls and data are clear.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Mar 3, 2025Indeed, more than 8 in 10 Americans believe that ending the war necessitates the end of Hamas's rule in Gaza (82 percent), and a virtually identical 81 percent of Americans support Israel's ...Mar 3, 2025Indeed, more than 8 in 10 Americans believe that ending the war necessitates the end of Hamas's rule in Gaza (82 percent), and a virtually identical 81 percent of Americans support Israel's ...
New polling by our firm, Schoen-Cooperman research, conducted on behalf of the Israel on Campus Coalition, reveals that even after 16 months of war, Americans firmly support Israel’s right to defend itself.
Hahahahahahahahaha
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Mar 3, 2025Indeed, more than 8 in 10 Americans believe that ending the war necessitates the end of Hamas's rule in Gaza (82 percent), and a virtually identical 81 percent of Americans support Israel's ...
New polling by our firm, Schoen-Cooperman research, conducted on behalf of the Israel on Campus Coalition, reveals that even after 16 months of war, Americans firmly support Israel’s right to defend itself.
Hahahahahahahahaha
peck peck peck *fart* peck peck peck
the woodpecker said:
"And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016. "
then you turned around and dissed the poll that doesn't agree with you !
You're a freaking moron ! LOL LOL LOL
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Has anyone on this forum ever been contacted by any of these pollsters about anything?
I liken it to jury duty, eventually you get your turn no?
I've never been contacted by any polling service about any subject.. Be it in person, by telephone or on line..
Ah, right, "the polls don't count cuz I disagree with what they say"
Ah, right, "the polls don't count cuz I disagree with what they say"
I swear you're 12.
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Ah, right, "the polls don't count cuz I disagree with what they say"
I swear you're 12.
I swear you're 12.
What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do. -
peck peck peck *fart* peck peck peck
the woodpecker said:
"And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016. "
then you turned around and dissed the poll that doesn't agree with you !
You're a freaking moron ! LOL LOL LOL
the woodpecker said:
"And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016. "
then you turned around and dissed the poll that doesn't agree with you !
You're a freaking moron ! LOL LOL LOL
Oh you don't understand the difference. Adorable
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I look at my answer, and then at the response to it from you and can only wonder. What fuck is wrong with you?
Your immediate response was to poke at the legitimacy of polls. And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016.
If you aren't attacking the accuracy of the poll, and you recognize the legitimacy of the results, then my mistake. But your first post was not giving that indication
Your immediate response was to poke at the legitimacy of polls. And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016.
If you aren't attacking the accuracy of the poll, and you recognize the legitimacy of the results, then my mistake. But your first post was not giving that indication
His post didn’t indicate he was questioning its legitimacy either, so yeah your mistake.
Ive never been contacted by a pollster, so when these polls came up I used to ask myself the same question.
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Your immediate response was to poke at the legitimacy of polls. And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016.
If you aren't attacking the accuracy of the poll, and you recognize the legitimacy of the results, then my mistake. But your first post was not giving that indication
His post didn’t indicate he was questioning its legitimacy either, so yeah your mistake.
Ive never been contacted by a pollster, so when these polls came up I used to ask myself the same question.
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Must be because of social media lies and propaganda people are exposed to.
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Alright man.
"I'm just asking questions"
Got it
You mentioned the possibility of making a mistake, and now you’ve changed your mind?
Now that is adorable.
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Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Secondly, those with an unfavorable view of Israel have typically accepted Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel, without first verifying if the allegations made against Israel are valid or not.
When are allegations against Israel not valid? When the allegations are asserted devoid of any objective evidence.Thirdly, the survey does make it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.
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'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. '
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
I have posted to a different website all the main "Palestinian" Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel, together with a brief rebuttal.
Anyone can use my first post to that Thread to search any specific allegation about which they are concerned, and see a brief answer to it.
Last time I looked at that thread, it had about 26,000 views (and for one year of that Thread's existence, the website's View-counter had been disabled).
I'm happy to link it, but I'm not sure if doing that would be against this website's rules.
The following is a copy of just one example-section from that Thread:- - - - Start of copy extract: - - - -
The Jews / Israel:
2.3) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:The Jews were not “given” any land. The WW2 Allies did NOT re-establish Israel.
The United Nations proposed a Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181, but while accepted by the then Palestinian Jewish Community it takes both parties to constitute any agreement. Instead, in 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war not only to oppose and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state.Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above.
Extract source:
[Will provide URL if a moderator grants permission.]
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Edit: I don't want to bother a moderator or Admin with asking if I can link my own post (even though it does contain sources for substantiation.
If however, the reader were to copy the line of text commencing with "2.3)", and paste it into Google Advanced Search, second field, that search returns an entry for the webpage in question. -
Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Secondly, those with an unfavorable view of Israel have typically accepted Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel, without first verifying if the allegations made against Israel are valid or not.
When are allegations against Israel not valid? When the allegations are asserted devoid of any objective evidence.Thirdly, the survey does make it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.
- - - - Start of extract from above Survey: - - - -
'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. '
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
I have posted to a different website all the main "Palestinian" Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel, together with a brief rebuttal.
Anyone can use my first post to that Thread to search any specific allegation about which they are concerned, and see a brief answer to it.
Last time I looked at that thread, it had about 26,000 views (and for one year of that Thread's existence, the website's View-counter had been disabled).
I'm happy to link it, but I'm not sure if doing that would be against this website's rules.
The following is a copy of just one example-section from that Thread:- - - - Start of copy extract: - - - -
The Jews / Israel:
2.3) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:The Jews were not “given” any land. The WW2 Allies did NOT re-establish Israel.
The United Nations proposed a Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181, but while accepted by the then Palestinian Jewish Community it takes both parties to constitute any agreement. Instead, in 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war not only to oppose and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state.Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above.
Extract source:
[Will provide URL if a moderator grants permission.]
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Edit: I don't want to bother a moderator or Admin with asking if I can link my own post (even though it does contain sources for substantiation.
If however, the reader were to copy the line of text commencing with "2.3)", and paste it into Google Advanced Search, second field, that search returns an entry for the webpage in question.Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Smoked woody right out of the gates lol?
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Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Secondly, those with an unfavorable view of Israel have typically accepted Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel, without first verifying if the allegations made against Israel are valid or not.
When are allegations against Israel not valid? When the allegations are asserted devoid of any objective evidence.Thirdly, the survey does make it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.
- - - - Start of extract from above Survey: - - - -
'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. '
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
I have posted to a different website all the main "Palestinian" Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel, together with a brief rebuttal.
Anyone can use my first post to that Thread to search any specific allegation about which they are concerned, and see a brief answer to it.
Last time I looked at that thread, it had about 26,000 views (and for one year of that Thread's existence, the website's View-counter had been disabled).
I'm happy to link it, but I'm not sure if doing that would be against this website's rules.
The following is a copy of just one example-section from that Thread:- - - - Start of copy extract: - - - -
The Jews / Israel:
2.3) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:The Jews were not “given” any land. The WW2 Allies did NOT re-establish Israel.
The United Nations proposed a Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181, but while accepted by the then Palestinian Jewish Community it takes both parties to constitute any agreement. Instead, in 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war not only to oppose and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state.Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above.
Extract source:
[Will provide URL if a moderator grants permission.]
- - - - End of copy extract - - - -
Edit: I don't want to bother a moderator or Admin with asking if I can link my own post (even though it does contain sources for substantiation.
If however, the reader were to copy the line of text commencing with "2.3)", and paste it into Google Advanced Search, second field, that search returns an entry for the webpage in question.Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Secondly, those with an unfavorable view of Israel have typically accepted Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel, without first verifying if the allegations made against Israel are valid or not.
When are allegations against Israel not valid? When the allegations are asserted devoid of any objective evidence.Thirdly, the survey does make it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.
- - - - Start of extract from above Survey: - - - -
'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. '
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
I have posted to a different website all the main Palestinian Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel, together with a brief rebuttal.
Anyone can use that webpage to search any specific allegation about which they are concerned and see an answer to it, and possibly reflect on their view.
Last time I looked at that thread, it had about 26,000 views (and for one year of that Thread's existence, the website's View-counter had been disabled).
I'm happy to link it, but I'm not sure if doing that would be against this website's rules.
The following is a copy of just one example-section:
- - - - Start of copy extract: - - - -
The Jews / Israel:
2.3) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:The Jews were not “given” any land. The WW2 Allies did NOT re-establish Israel.
The United Nations proposed a Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181, but while accepted by the then Palestinian Jewish Community it takes both parties to constitute any agreement. Instead, in 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war not only to oppose and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state.Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above.
Extract source:
[Will provide URL if a moderator grants permission.]
- - - - End of copy extract - - - -Must have stifled Woody. No reaction.
And from where is the anti Israeli propaganda obtained?Much of it from social media would be my guess, but according to Woody the only time you can have confidence in social media information is when it’s spewing anti Israeli stuff.
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Firstly, an unfavorable view of Israel does not mean that Israel has done anything wrong.
Secondly, those with an unfavorable view of Israel have typically accepted Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda against Israel, without first verifying if the allegations made against Israel are valid or not.
When are allegations against Israel not valid? When the allegations are asserted devoid of any objective evidence.Thirdly, the survey does make it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.
- - - - Start of extract from above Survey: - - - -
'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. '
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
I have posted to a different website all the main Palestinian Arab falsehood-propaganda against Israel, together with a brief rebuttal.
Anyone can use that webpage to search any specific allegation about which they are concerned and see an answer to it, and possibly reflect on their view.
Last time I looked at that thread, it had about 26,000 views (and for one year of that Thread's existence, the website's View-counter had been disabled).
I'm happy to link it, but I'm not sure if doing that would be against this website's rules.
The following is a copy of just one example-section:
- - - - Start of copy extract: - - - -
The Jews / Israel:
2.3) Were “given” the land: by the Allies following WW2 / by the United Nations, because of the Holocaust:The Jews were not “given” any land. The WW2 Allies did NOT re-establish Israel.
The United Nations proposed a Partition Plan (two-state solution) under resolution 181, but while accepted by the then Palestinian Jewish Community it takes both parties to constitute any agreement. Instead, in 1947 to 1948 the Arabs started a civil war not only to oppose and instead take ALL the land of Israel, but also to ethnically-cleanse or murder the Jews. The more the Arabs persisted in attacking the Jewish community, the more militarized the previously peaceful Jewish community became, resulting in a force capable of defending a new state.Israel was Re-established not because of the Holocaust, but because the land of Israel is the ancestral-homeland of the Jewish people - See links for: “Demographic history” and for the Hasmonean kingdom in 2.1) above.
Extract source:
[Will provide URL if a moderator grants permission.]
- - - - End of copy extract - - - -Must have stifled Woody. No reaction.
And from where is the anti Israeli propaganda obtained?Much of it from social media would be my guess, but according to Woody the only time you can have confidence in social media information is when it’s spewing anti Israeli stuff.
Must have stifled Woody. No reaction.
And from where is the anti Israeli propaganda obtained?Much of it from social media would be my guess, but according to Woody the only time you can have confidence in social media information is when it’s spewing anti Israeli stuff.
FY56, you asked:
"from where is the anti Israeli propaganda obtained?":
An Internet search gains returns of example falsehood assertions about Israel and the Jewish people, but essentially the answer is: from about 8 years experience rebutting Palestinian Arab falsehood propaganda on the now defunct Yahoo Answers, and from researching for that debunking, which tended also to reveal how prevalent are particular examples of the falsehood-propaganda.Its also quite easy for anyone to see the difference between genuine-criticism and anti-Israel/anti-Semitic falsehood:
Palestinian Arab falsehood against Israel is characterized by being asserted devoid of any objective evidence in support!
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