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Browns Select Mason Graham #5 Overall

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  • Just dont get drafting a DT who doesn't rush the QB at #5

    @londonbrown said:

    Just dont get drafting a DT who doesn't rush the QB at #5

    Well you play Baltimore and Pittsburgh four times a year 

  • Just got in so what else was given up besides this year's #5?

    @texasag1969 said:

    what else was given up besides this year's #5?

    Cleveland received the No. 5 pick, a second-round pick (No. 36), a fourth-round pick (No. 126) and a 2026 first-round pick

    Jaguars received the No. 2 pick, a fourth-round pick (No. 104) and a sixth-round pick (No. 200)

    Bullying the Jags first-time GM James Gladstone, the name of a guy who loses at fantasy football, is one of the best moves Berry has ever made.

    Basically #2 for #5, #36, and their first next year.. pay no attention to the pick swap in the fourth and extra sixth.

    Not only did Browns get another first-round pick next year, that extra second-round pick tomorrow is number 4 and should also be a quality starter especially given the random late-round-2 picks already made tonight.  [What the hell are the Bengals smoking, they drafted an edge who got 4.5 sacks in 3 yrs]

  • Steelers refuse to have a QB

  • What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    @orion said:

    What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

  • Just dont get drafting a DT who doesn't rush the QB at #5

    @londonbrown said:

    Just dont get drafting a DT who doesn't rush the QB at #5

    While Myles Garrett gets another year older - he'll appreciate the need for opponents to double team Graham inside.  London, this moves helps Myles out a lot. I know this pick isn't Big Sexy to many but it's Country Strong...

  • At least it wasn't f'n Shadeur Sanders 

  • @orion said:

    What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

    @flugel said:

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

    Golics biggest asset was he was strong and stout.. And at the perfect height of 6'2 which allowed him to get leverage on opposing lineman.. Not bad for a guy who wasnt exactly fast and started out as a 3 stance LB'er.. Interestingly enough I had a working relationship with Bob Golics late Father Bob Sr... He was a Lake County building and safety inspector and I had the pleasure of knowing him when we had the construction business... Very nice man.

  • He knows how to win in Ohio, so that's good for us. 

    @mld-woody said:

    He knows how to win in Ohio, so that's good for us. 

    Let’s hope he’s not a cheater.

  • @mld-woody said:

    He knows how to win in Ohio, so that's good for us. 

    Let’s hope he’s not a cheater.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Let’s hope he’s not a cheater.

    Awwwww, poor baby

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Let’s hope he’s not a cheater.

    Awwwww, poor baby

    @mld-woody said:

    Awwwww, poor baby

    That response was weak AF, for some reason I expected better.

    Let’s hope MG doesn’t disappoint, like your posts.

  • What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    @orion said:

    What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    You're putting too much stock in "43 34". 

    Gaps, roles and assignments are always most crucial. Hell, even most modern "34s" are 1 gap or blended gap fronts.   Even the most creative coaches don't have your classic 2 gapping fronts anymore. 

  • Well, that will make Woody happy !

    Truth is, I took the 2nd rated edge rusher on the trade down, he went way later.

    But the Browns took a dominating, aggressive, buttkicking defensive lineman? I've seen where some thought he was the most amazing defensive player in the draft. Great choice I think, even if he is from michigan. lol

  • @mld-woody said:

    Awwwww, poor baby

    That response was weak AF, for some reason I expected better.

    Let’s hope MG doesn’t disappoint, like your posts.

    @canton-dawg said:

    That response was weak AF, for some reason I expected better.

    Let’s hope MG doesn’t disappoint, like your posts.

    There is only one MG on this team, and he played for Texas A&M, sir.

  • @orion said:

    What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

    @flugel said:

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

    Not to mention there would be a good chance that Schwartz would take over the HC position and or we wouldn't play a 3-4 D.

  • @orion said:

    What if we suck next year because we have Pickett and an Old Timer at QB, and are weak at OL?  And Berry & Stef get fired?  And we bring in a new HC that wants to install a 3-4 D?

    You're putting too much stock in "43 34". 

    Gaps, roles and assignments are always most crucial. Hell, even most modern "34s" are 1 gap or blended gap fronts.   Even the most creative coaches don't have your classic 2 gapping fronts anymore. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    You're putting too much stock in "43 34". 

    ok...So should I assume the same with MLB vs ILB (4/3  3/4) now-a-days?   There used to be size vs speed requirement differences.  

    ...and yeah, Schwartz could be the next HC if Jimmuh's trigger finger goes off after next season.  -  basically just thinking out loud here -

  • @londonbrown said:

    Just dont get drafting a DT who doesn't rush the QB at #5

    While Myles Garrett gets another year older - he'll appreciate the need for opponents to double team Graham inside.  London, this moves helps Myles out a lot. I know this pick isn't Big Sexy to many but it's Country Strong...

    @flugel said:

    While Myles Garrett gets another year older - he'll appreciate the need for opponents to double team Graham inside.  London, this moves helps Myles out a lot. I know this pick isn't Big Sexy to many but it's Country Strong...

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s was Myles Garrett who advised for this move.
    Nice rivalry with Mike Hall from OSU on the interior DLine. Now plenty of other picks to address other needs.

    Took the best player available(besides hunter) and acquired more picks to fill other holes.

    The front office is attempting to climb out of the Watson hole that was dug. ?️

  • @flugel said:

    What makes you think Graham wouldn't be an ideal NT?  Just like a previous Pro Bowl NT Bob Golic here - he's a former wrestler that's much bigger than Bob was.  He'll command attention inside.

    Not to mention there would be a good chance that Schwartz would take over the HC position and or we wouldn't play a 3-4 D.

    @ballpeen said:

    Not to mention there would be a good chance that Schwartz would take over the HC position and or we wouldn't play a 3-4 D.

    Thank you ballpeen!  That too...

  • @syd said:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25190253-jaguars-browns-reportedly-agreed-travis-hunter-trade-framework-weeks-draft

    seems the trade was put together in early april

    And another insider says that at the time of MG getting his new contract to stay, he insisted to Berry he would sign if they took Mason Graham in the first round. Very interesting. So was it the chicken or the egg which came first for Berry?

  • @syd said:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25190253-jaguars-browns-reportedly-agreed-travis-hunter-trade-framework-weeks-draft

    seems the trade was put together in early april

    And another insider says that at the time of MG getting his new contract to stay, he insisted to Berry he would sign if they took Mason Graham in the first round. Very interesting. So was it the chicken or the egg which came first for Berry?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And another insider says that at the time of MG getting his new contract to stay, he insisted to Berry he would sign if they took Mason Graham in the first round. Very interesting. So was it the chicken or the egg which came first for Berry?

    so ya think  we draft sha Do  today, my insider sez NO