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  • G grimmreaper3

    Does this guy just hate spell-check? Crenel? Lynchpin? I did not realize that the locker room had turned on Mangini *that* much.

    @grimmreaper3 said:

    Does this guy just hate spell-check? Crenel? Lynchpin? I did not realize that the locker room had turned on Mangini *that* much.

    No, but since it was in his blog I don't think editors review it much.

    Not sure if the locker room has turned that much on Mangini. I think some of the feelings toward him have been there since day one.

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  • Ha. That was awesome writing. Great job, Pat.

    Thanks for posting, Mik.

  • D damajuki

    Ha. That was awesome writing. Great job, Pat.

    Thanks for posting, Mik.

    @damajuki said:

    Ha. That was awesome writing. Great job, Pat.

    Thanks for posting, Mik.

    No problem. It was one of Pat's better ones and hit on a couple of things we have been talking about here. Along with a few other things Shep noted reading about on the OBR.

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    @grimmreaper3 said:

    Does this guy just hate spell-check? Crenel? Lynchpin? I did not realize that the locker room had turned on Mangini *that* much.

    No, but since it was in his blog I don't think editors review it much.

    Not sure if the locker room has turned that much on Mangini. I think some of the feelings toward him have been there since day one.

    Masters said:

    No, but since it was in his blog I don't think editors review it much.

    Not sure if the locker room has turned that much on Mangini. I think some of the feelings toward him have been there since day one.

    Point taken. It's better than Twitter, at least. Though that's certainly no golden standard.

    Nevertheless, Anderson starting does seem likely. At least there will be less punts, one way or another.

    I can't say much on whether he has lost the locker room: I simply just don't know enough about it, and my speculation at this point is as uneducated as... well, I'm not going to finish that simile.

  • G grimmreaper3

    Masters said:

    No, but since it was in his blog I don't think editors review it much.

    Not sure if the locker room has turned that much on Mangini. I think some of the feelings toward him have been there since day one.

    Point taken. It's better than Twitter, at least. Though that's certainly no golden standard.

    Nevertheless, Anderson starting does seem likely. At least there will be less punts, one way or another.

    I can't say much on whether he has lost the locker room: I simply just don't know enough about it, and my speculation at this point is as uneducated as... well, I'm not going to finish that simile.

    @grimmreaper3 said:

    Point taken. It's better than Twitter, at least. Though that's certainly no golden standard.

    Nevertheless, Anderson starting does seem likely. At least there will be less punts, one way or another.

    I can't say much on whether he has lost the locker room: I simply just don't know enough about it, and my speculation at this point is as uneducated as... well, I'm not going to finish that simile.

    Way better than Twitter. I suspect you'll see those typo's cleared up once they have this in the regular sports section for the Beacon.

    Likely less Zasdadil punts but more Brett Favre style punts 🙂

    I don't know if he has lost the locker room. I think it is still a little early for that notion.

  • Womangini sucks... end of story!

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8

  • @inspecta said:

    And of course Lerner will sit in his castle and refuse to speak to anybody

    What is there to gain by Lerner speaking to anyone (publically that is, since it's reported he talks with the GM and HC almost daily)? I don't exactly need lip service from Lerner or him coming out and expressing his disappointment in the product on the field.

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  • @inspecta said:

    Good owners are visible when the team is in crisis.

    So are bad ones my man. There is no right or wrong way for an owner when a team is in crisis, as far as being in front of the fans and press.

    I really don't think Lerner has much hands on involvement with his soccer team at this point. I think he knows as much about running a soccer team as he does a football team. Not exactly the guy I want actively involved in daily football operations. I do believe that people are right that he needs a good football man to be running the organization for him.

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    @inspecta said:

    And of course Lerner will sit in his castle and refuse to speak to anybody

    What is there to gain by Lerner speaking to anyone (publically that is, since it's reported he talks with the GM and HC almost daily)? I don't exactly need lip service from Lerner or him coming out and expressing his disappointment in the product on the field.

    Masters said:

    What is there to gain by Lerner speaking to anyone (publically that is, since it's reported he talks with the GM and HC almost daily)? I don't exactly need lip service from Lerner or him coming out and expressing his disappointment in the product on the field.

    Honestly, just so we know he is aware of the situation and equally concerned. I mean I really don't think Lerner is going to go all Jerry Jones on us.

  • B bonedawg

    Masters said:

    What is there to gain by Lerner speaking to anyone (publically that is, since it's reported he talks with the GM and HC almost daily)? I don't exactly need lip service from Lerner or him coming out and expressing his disappointment in the product on the field.

    Honestly, just so we know he is aware of the situation and equally concerned. I mean I really don't think Lerner is going to go all Jerry Jones on us.

    @bonedawg said:

    Honestly, just so we know he is aware of the situation and equally concerned. I mean I really don't think Lerner is going to go all Jerry Jones on us.

    I am sure he is aware. He goes to games, actively watches games, and grew up a Browns fan. He showed he was equally concerned when things headed south under Butch, and he was equally concerned last year when things headed south.

    It's only a matter of time before reports of his dissatisfaction start showing up (assuming the losses keep mounting and the team looks like it has on both sides of the ball).

  • Because (I repeat) … continuing with a mistake just for the sake of doing so only makes the mistake worse. Compounds the problem...if EM goes 0-6....is he gone?

  • S Solon16

    Because (I repeat) … continuing with a mistake just for the sake of doing so only makes the mistake worse. Compounds the problem...if EM goes 0-6....is he gone?

    @solon16 said:

    Because (I repeat) … continuing with a mistake just for the sake of doing so only makes the mistake worse. Compounds the problem...if EM goes 0-6....is he gone?

    What is there to gain if he is fired now, after 0-6, or even if they go 0-16? The answer is nothing of substance to be gained.

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    @solon16 said:

    Because (I repeat) … continuing with a mistake just for the sake of doing so only makes the mistake worse. Compounds the problem...if EM goes 0-6....is he gone?

    What is there to gain if he is fired now, after 0-6, or even if they go 0-16? The answer is nothing of substance to be gained.

    Masters said:

    What is there to gain if he is fired now, after 0-6, or even if they go 0-16? The answer is nothing of substance to be gained.

    It gives Marty or Cowher a chance to see guys in game situations. It also gives Manginiless chance to xxxx up the players any further.

    Dumptruck full of cash for Marty or Bill C. Let's quit xxxxing around with these 'other guys' and get people who have proven they know WTF they are doing.

    I just can't understand how Mangini has screwed this up so badly so quickly.

  • L lemosley01

    Masters said:

    What is there to gain if he is fired now, after 0-6, or even if they go 0-16? The answer is nothing of substance to be gained.

    It gives Marty or Cowher a chance to see guys in game situations. It also gives Manginiless chance to xxxx up the players any further.

    Dumptruck full of cash for Marty or Bill C. Let's quit xxxxing around with these 'other guys' and get people who have proven they know WTF they are doing.

    I just can't understand how Mangini has screwed this up so badly so quickly.

    @lemosley01 said:

    It gives Marty or Cowher a chance to see guys in game situations. It also gives Manginiless chance to xxxx up the players any further.

    Dumptruck full of cash for Marty or Bill C. Let's quit xxxxing around with these 'other guys' and get people who have proven they know WTF they are doing.

    I just can't understand how Mangini has screwed this up so badly so quickly.

    Neither guy would ever come the Browns, let alone any NFL team, midseason. No HC is going to take the job until the end of the season.

  • You can just tell if a coach has it and mangini dont we need to cut the cancer out and let ryan be the coach for the rest of the year...

    Mangini not only isnt smart but he is way out of his league in the nfl as far as being able to rebuild a quality team...

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!

  • seems the niners are doing pretty well...I'd give it to Rex's twin Brother. Let him run with it....I was excited in the beginning with EM....but after that fkn HORRIBLE bomb of a draft...I quickly jumped off the excitement train. If Mack isn't a probowler and HOF'r it wasted pick. like taking a punter in the first! Napolean complex only works if your kickn ass and taking names on the field...napolean complex with an 0-3 record = Nightmare of epic proportion.

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