For your Browns Monday morning reading
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Something I'm happy to have vs the QB situations we've had lately.
Understood. We threw two of the better QB's in the college draft at our BIGGEST problem without using a 1st or 2nd round pick. It's awfully hard to complain about that tactic. (but yours truly always finds a way) ?
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Something I'm happy to have vs the QB situations we've had lately.
Understood. We threw two of the better QB's in the college draft at our BIGGEST problem without using a 1st or 2nd round pick. It's awfully hard to complain about that tactic. (but yours truly always finds a way) ?
Understood. We threw two of the better QB's in the college draft at our BIGGEST problem without using a 1st or 2nd round pick. It's awfully hard to complain about that tactic. (but yours truly always finds a way) ?
What I'm worried about is that Sanders (or possibly Gabriel) shows just enough this season to make the Browns think they found their QB and that they don't take one next draft, and Sanders or Gabriel end up being Fool's Gold.
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Understood. We threw two of the better QB's in the college draft at our BIGGEST problem without using a 1st or 2nd round pick. It's awfully hard to complain about that tactic. (but yours truly always finds a way) ?
What I'm worried about is that Sanders (or possibly Gabriel) shows just enough this season to make the Browns think they found their QB and that they don't take one next draft, and Sanders or Gabriel end up being Fool's Gold.
What I'm worried about is that Sanders (or possibly Gabriel) shows just enough this season to make the Browns think they found their QB and that they don't take one next draft, and Sanders or Gabriel end up being Fool's Gold.
Okay; but who is this college football messiah that's transcending his current football program to all new heights to assure us he's the right guy for the Cleveland Browns? In the 3 years Klubnik has started at Clemson - how many times have they lost less than 4 games? Zero. Yes, he can put together good stats in a conference that provides a lot of junk time gimmes. McCord and Pickett have shown us as much. Isn't this why the starting QB at UGA the last 2 years decided he wanted to leave the SEC for Miami and the easier competition in the ACC? He's gotta get those INTs down right? Cam Ward was just drafted 1st overall from Miami so why not?
The 2 QBs that transcended the Miami Hurricanes back in the day were Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar. One went on to lead the Bills to 4 Super Bowl appearances while the other went on to lead the Browns to 3 AFC Championship Games. Kosar was the won that won a National Championship when he led his team over the favored Nebraska Cornhuskers. Evidence of QB with the magic existed with the last QB the Browns got right albeit necessitating the Supplemental Draft to get him.
Don't take this the wrong way - but if one or both of the 2 QBs the Browns drafted shows some good signs early - that doesn't have to be Fool's Gold. Another part of this whole thing is having the right offensive staff here like say adding OC Lindy Infante in the off-season leading into the 86 season the Browns won 12 regular season games. That mattered in expediting Bernie's progress. Hopefully Tommy Rees is a big help to Stefanski and his young QBs. If both guys suck, Arch Manning ain't coming here...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
At the end of the 3rd round, and for about a day, our hope was that we had drafted a QB that's good enough to be next year's backup QB for the foreseeable future. Then towards the beginning of the 5th round the universe twitched, and our new hope was that one of these two QB's would be good enough to be a legit starter, such that we could turn our attention to other needs next April. - That's where I'm at right now. I just don't know if one season is enough to find that out...without one of them just jumping off of the practice tape at you.
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 39 minutes ago -
Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 39 minutes ago
“The Browns believe between their own first-round pick in 2026 and Jacksonville’s (likely to be high), they can find a QB in the draft. If something happens and Kenny Pickett revives his career or one of the rookies surprises and becomes an effective starter, they can use the pair of first-rounders in 2026 to fill other needs,” Pluto wrote.
-----Yup. And we're sitting here waiting to see which way it plays out.
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 39 minutes ago
“The Browns believe between their own first-round pick in 2026 and Jacksonville’s (likely to be high), they can find a QB in the draft. If something happens and Kenny Pickett revives his career or one of the rookies surprises and becomes an effective starter, they can use the pair of first-rounders in 2026 to fill other needs,” Pluto wrote.
-----Yup. And we're sitting here waiting to see which way it plays out.
“The Browns believe between their own first-round pick in 2026 and Jacksonville’s (likely to be high), they can find a QB in the draft. If something happens and Kenny Pickett revives his career or one of the rookies surprises and becomes an effective starter, they can use the pair of first-rounders in 2026 to fill other needs,” Pluto wrote.
-----Yup. And we're sitting here waiting to see which way it plays out.
LOL! And I already knew that as an "outsider" without even having to consult any tea leaves.??
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What I'm worried about is that Sanders (or possibly Gabriel) shows just enough this season to make the Browns think they found their QB and that they don't take one next draft, and Sanders or Gabriel end up being Fool's Gold.
Okay; but who is this college football messiah that's transcending his current football program to all new heights to assure us he's the right guy for the Cleveland Browns? In the 3 years Klubnik has started at Clemson - how many times have they lost less than 4 games? Zero. Yes, he can put together good stats in a conference that provides a lot of junk time gimmes. McCord and Pickett have shown us as much. Isn't this why the starting QB at UGA the last 2 years decided he wanted to leave the SEC for Miami and the easier competition in the ACC? He's gotta get those INTs down right? Cam Ward was just drafted 1st overall from Miami so why not?
The 2 QBs that transcended the Miami Hurricanes back in the day were Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar. One went on to lead the Bills to 4 Super Bowl appearances while the other went on to lead the Browns to 3 AFC Championship Games. Kosar was the won that won a National Championship when he led his team over the favored Nebraska Cornhuskers. Evidence of QB with the magic existed with the last QB the Browns got right albeit necessitating the Supplemental Draft to get him.
Don't take this the wrong way - but if one or both of the 2 QBs the Browns drafted shows some good signs early - that doesn't have to be Fool's Gold. Another part of this whole thing is having the right offensive staff here like say adding OC Lindy Infante in the off-season leading into the 86 season the Browns won 12 regular season games. That mattered in expediting Bernie's progress. Hopefully Tommy Rees is a big help to Stefanski and his young QBs. If both guys suck, Arch Manning ain't coming here...
Okay; but who is this college football messiah that's transcending his current football program to all new heights to assure us he's the right guy for the Cleveland Browns? In the 3 years Klubnik has started at Clemson - how many times have they lost less than 4 games? Zero. Yes, he can put together good stats in a conference that provides a lot of junk time gimmes. McCord and Pickett have shown us as much. Isn't this why the starting QB at UGA the last 2 years decided he wanted to leave the SEC for Miami and the easier competition in the ACC? He's gotta get those INTs down right? Cam Ward was just drafted 1st overall from Miami so why not?
The 2 QBs that transcended the Miami Hurricanes back in the day were Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar. One went on to lead the Bills to 4 Super Bowl appearances while the other went on to lead the Browns to 3 AFC Championship Games. Kosar was the won that won a National Championship when he led his team over the favored Nebraska Cornhuskers. Evidence of QB with the magic existed with the last QB the Browns got right albeit necessitating the Supplemental Draft to get him.
Don't take this the wrong way - but if one or both of the 2 QBs the Browns drafted shows some good signs early - that doesn't have to be Fool's Gold. Another part of this whole thing is having the right offensive staff here like say adding OC Lindy Infante in the off-season leading into the 86 season the Browns won 12 regular season games. That mattered in expediting Bernie's progress. Hopefully Tommy Rees is a big help to Stefanski and his young QBs. If both guys suck, Arch Manning ain't coming here...
So basically you are saying that we better hope one of these mid-rounders we drafted pan out because no one in what probably will be regarded as a far better QB class will be able to help the Browns out?
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“The Browns believe between their own first-round pick in 2026 and Jacksonville’s (likely to be high), they can find a QB in the draft. If something happens and Kenny Pickett revives his career or one of the rookies surprises and becomes an effective starter, they can use the pair of first-rounders in 2026 to fill other needs,” Pluto wrote.
-----Yup. And we're sitting here waiting to see which way it plays out.
LOL! And I already knew that as an "outsider" without even having to consult any tea leaves.??
LOL! And I already knew that as an "outsider" without even having to consult any tea leaves.??
Right! And we've been saying it, among other things. And that's why I highlighted it here because it's verification of things that we're saying. And we're only stating the obvious.
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Okay; but who is this college football messiah that's transcending his current football program to all new heights to assure us he's the right guy for the Cleveland Browns? In the 3 years Klubnik has started at Clemson - how many times have they lost less than 4 games? Zero. Yes, he can put together good stats in a conference that provides a lot of junk time gimmes. McCord and Pickett have shown us as much. Isn't this why the starting QB at UGA the last 2 years decided he wanted to leave the SEC for Miami and the easier competition in the ACC? He's gotta get those INTs down right? Cam Ward was just drafted 1st overall from Miami so why not?
The 2 QBs that transcended the Miami Hurricanes back in the day were Jim Kelly and Bernie Kosar. One went on to lead the Bills to 4 Super Bowl appearances while the other went on to lead the Browns to 3 AFC Championship Games. Kosar was the won that won a National Championship when he led his team over the favored Nebraska Cornhuskers. Evidence of QB with the magic existed with the last QB the Browns got right albeit necessitating the Supplemental Draft to get him.
Don't take this the wrong way - but if one or both of the 2 QBs the Browns drafted shows some good signs early - that doesn't have to be Fool's Gold. Another part of this whole thing is having the right offensive staff here like say adding OC Lindy Infante in the off-season leading into the 86 season the Browns won 12 regular season games. That mattered in expediting Bernie's progress. Hopefully Tommy Rees is a big help to Stefanski and his young QBs. If both guys suck, Arch Manning ain't coming here...
So basically you are saying that we better hope one of these mid-rounders we drafted pan out because no one in what probably will be regarded as a far better QB class will be able to help the Browns out?
So basically you are saying that we better hope one of these mid-rounders we drafted pan out because no one in what probably will be regarded as a far better QB class will be able to help the Browns out?
I am INDEED! Next year is a copout. How many more decades dominated by the elusive next year mentality do you want to go? The Browns have won 1 playoff game in the last 30 years with this mentality. After going 1-15 in 2016 they went 0-16 in 2017.
As piss poor as 3-14 football was in 2024 - there was already a QB selected when the Browns were on the clock trading their 2nd overall choice to Jax. To draft the top QB prospect next year - it sure seems like they'll have to have to do worse than 3-14 to earn the pick of the litter.
If Klubnik is the missing football messiah here, - why is Clemson losing 4 games a year all 3 years he started in a weak conference? That used to be a bad year for that football program not so long ago. So WHO is this football messiah at QB in the draft that will come to Cleveland and change everything in 2026?
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I agree. Forget next year. Between Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders, one of them is going to be a good QB.
You don't need flash. You just need good.
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 1 hour ago
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Wow. ?
Wow. ?
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Forget next year. Between Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders, one of them is going to be a good QB.
Next year is a copout.
I'd used that 'next year is a copout' phrase leading up to the draft. But by the end of the Friday night draft, the plan was spelled out to us that we were doing the 'QB thing' next year with his backup already in place. THEN we drafted Sanders. The 'cop out' now goes away because the attitude has shifted to, Are one of these two the franchise QB?
They liked Gabriel. But in Sanders they got the guy that supposedly had the highest floor. It's not Next Year anymore. It's This Year to fix the QB position. ( unless the 2 QB's don't show anything...in which case it'll be Next Year...but we won't know that until January approaches )
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Wow. ?
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Forget next year. Between Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders, one of them is going to be a good QB.
Next year is a copout.
I'd used that 'next year is a copout' phrase leading up to the draft. But by the end of the Friday night draft, the plan was spelled out to us that we were doing the 'QB thing' next year with his backup already in place. THEN we drafted Sanders. The 'cop out' now goes away because the attitude has shifted to, Are one of these two the franchise QB?
They liked Gabriel. But in Sanders they got the guy that supposedly had the highest floor. It's not Next Year anymore. It's This Year to fix the QB position. ( unless the 2 QB's don't show anything...in which case it'll be Next Year...but we won't know that until January approaches )
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I'd used that 'next year is a copout' phrase leading up to the draft. But by the end of the Friday night draft, the plan was spelled out to us that we were doing the 'QB thing' next year with his backup already in place. THEN we drafted Sanders. The 'cop out' now goes away because the attitude has shifted to, Are one of these two the franchise QB?
They liked Gabriel. But in Sanders they got the guy that supposedly had the highest floor. It's not Next Year anymore. It's This Year to fix the QB position. ( unless the 2 QB's don't show anything...in which case it'll be Next Year...but we won't know that until January approaches )
If we listen guys that played in the NFL like HOF TE Shannon Sharpe who started in multiple SBs - he thought Sheduer is a 1st round talent and clearly the most accurate QB in the draft. He and others know that around the time of the last SB Deion was running his mouth about a cluster of teams he didn't want Shedeur playing for. The problem with that was - those were all the teams needing QBs. The Browns were also aware of his prior comments about the Browns. So.... When round 5 came and the ENTIRE league showed Deion - your son will play where the league says he will play.
I think we got a 1st round talent in Shedeur regardless of how unpopular it is to say that. Having said that, I'm also quite fond of Dillon Gabriel even before the draft.
It's a little early to stick a fork in them because there might be good QBs in 2026 IMO.
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I wouldn't read too much into the title, but apparently he's not looking like what they paid for him. Remember, we would have been critical just paying the 2nd pick for him....imagine the disappointment you would be feeling for how much Jax paid.
I'm sure he will be a star, but Ohanti might have been Kevin's sales pitch rather than his true feelings.
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 1 hour ago
I would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 1 hour ago
I would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
I would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
You beat me to it Aggies. I just posted the same thing in the Unofficial 2025 Pre-Training Camp Roster & Depth Charts thread.
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a damn good watch
I loved what they said with Fannin talking about great hands, late hands, etc. That's what I saw in person and makes him dangerous as a receiver in my mind. The other is studying a player who has great footwork to get off the line.
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