For your Browns Monday morning reading
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I thought we had a pretty good draft season this year...
The job of acquiring extra picks was well done. Some will question the Gabriel pick as being too early. But that aside, every player taken was thought of as a talented player. And at important positions of need. It's awfully hard to complain about our draft the way things look here in June. BUT, if one just HAD to complain...
...we drafted 2 RB's & QB's. If we had put one of each back on the shelf and picked a WR and a Safety....well, that woulda' coulda' mighta' been great.
The job of acquiring extra picks was well done. Some will question the Gabriel pick as being too early. But that aside, every player taken was thought of as a talented player. And at important positions of need. It's awfully hard to complain about our draft the way things look here in June. BUT, if one just HAD to complain...
...we drafted 2 RB's & QB's. If we had put one of each back on the shelf and picked a WR and a Safety....well, that woulda' coulda' mighta' been great.
Given what we knew about Chubb and the limitations of Ford, which are the strengths of the two RBs, Gabriel was the only one ida dropped. Then we coulda' taken that safety or WR.
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The job of acquiring extra picks was well done. Some will question the Gabriel pick as being too early. But that aside, every player taken was thought of as a talented player. And at important positions of need. It's awfully hard to complain about our draft the way things look here in June. BUT, if one just HAD to complain...
...we drafted 2 RB's & QB's. If we had put one of each back on the shelf and picked a WR and a Safety....well, that woulda' coulda' mighta' been great.
Given what we knew about Chubb and the limitations of Ford, which are the strengths of the two RBs, Gabriel was the only one ida dropped. Then we coulda' taken that safety or WR.
Given what we knew about Chubb and the limitations of Ford, which are the strengths of the two RBs, Gabriel was the only one ida dropped. Then we coulda' taken that safety or WR.
I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
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Given what we knew about Chubb and the limitations of Ford, which are the strengths of the two RBs, Gabriel was the only one ida dropped. Then we coulda' taken that safety or WR.
I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
Yeah, we coulda' used any of those guys. ( I forgot to mention OL ) I didn't like the pick because he's short. I just don't like short QB's. Put him side by side with Flacco and he looks like he could be Joe's son that hasn't got his driver's license yet.
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Given what we knew about Chubb and the limitations of Ford, which are the strengths of the two RBs, Gabriel was the only one ida dropped. Then we coulda' taken that safety or WR.
I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
I like the ND safety too. Never got DG and still don't. Especially that high. But he's still better than the two we had last year excluding Watson. If they had chosen them in reverse order it would have made more sense. But overall I still like the DT, TE and the TE very, very much. I just don't know enough about the UCLA LB. Never saw him play like I did the others. Fannin,Jr made me sit up in my seat at the game. Every time we'd set those guys back he'd find a way to bail them out on 3rd and long. It was truly amazin'.
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I really like all the position players the Browns drafted, and Sanders in the 5th round could very well be an absolute steal. DG is the head scratcher... I didn't like the pick when it happened, really didn't like the pick after they chose Sanders.
An OLineman would have been nice there too. I listed a short list somewhere of guys I liked that were available, like Ohio State's Cody Simon and Jack Sawyer, and the safety from Notre Dame off the top of my head.
Yeah, we coulda' used any of those guys. ( I forgot to mention OL ) I didn't like the pick because he's short. I just don't like short QB's. Put him side by side with Flacco and he looks like he could be Joe's son that hasn't got his driver's license yet.
Yeah, we coulda' used any of those guys. ( I forgot to mention OL ) I didn't like the pick because he's short. I just don't like short QB's. Put him side by side with Flacco and he looks like he could be Joe's son that hasn't got his driver's license yet.
I think it may take him a little longer but once he gets it - he'll be fine. For example, here's the 1st 3 years of another QB with an equivalent height. The bad news was the Chargers GM thought he needed to draft a taller QB in the upper 1st round the very next year (HC Marty disagreed with that decision). The good news was that taller QB Philip Rivers held out the length of training camp so Brees got a 4th year to prove himself. Sure enough he went 11-4 and made the Pro Bowl with 27 TD passes to just 7 INTs. He stayed at that level before he injured his shoulder and after (with the Saints).
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Rival exec puts Browns draft day trade among best offseason moves
That trade down was brilliant. Especially since that is the only thing I got right in my stupid mock draft. Graham has the makings of a star. Can't wait. I hope we didn't miss out bigtime on not getting Jack Sawyer. and Judkins is going to be awesome to watch. Great trade, I'd be giving credit to our OC and Berry.
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Rival exec puts Browns draft day trade among best offseason moves
That trade down was brilliant. Especially since that is the only thing I got right in my stupid mock draft. Graham has the makings of a star. Can't wait. I hope we didn't miss out bigtime on not getting Jack Sawyer. and Judkins is going to be awesome to watch. Great trade, I'd be giving credit to our OC and Berry.
That trade down was brilliant. Especially since that is the only thing I got right in my stupid mock draft. Graham has the makings of a star. Can't wait. I hope we didn't miss out bigtime on not getting Jack Sawyer. and Judkins is going to be awesome to watch. Great trade, I'd be giving credit to our OC and Berry.
the only thing I got right was that we draft 2 RB'S I just picked the wrong one's.
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That trade down was brilliant. Especially since that is the only thing I got right in my stupid mock draft. Graham has the makings of a star. Can't wait. I hope we didn't miss out bigtime on not getting Jack Sawyer. and Judkins is going to be awesome to watch. Great trade, I'd be giving credit to our OC and Berry.
the only thing I got right was that we draft 2 RB'S I just picked the wrong one's.
the only thing I got right was that we draft 2 RB'S I just picked the wrong one's.
You're not alone. I liked the 2 we got (and actually wanted us to draft Sampson per that less talked about faves list I put together). I was actually thinking TreVeyon Henderson would be the RB they wanted. Here's his numbers for the Buckeyes showcasing 7.1 yards per carry last year.
Having said that, Judkins is comparable eye candy. He's a bigger back that scores a lot of TDs as we can see below.
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interesting very interesting
NFL Insider Says Browns Could Potentially Use Surprising Roster Trick
I saw that earlier today somewhere. The only thing is, when you put him on the PS he can be taken by another team. Flacco, of course, is the guy that you don't have any draft picks invested in. And he's quite old. Things, however, could get quite interesting if Flacco wound up being the starter for some reason, and we were winning games with him....and maybe even in a playoff hunt. (stranger things have happened)
And then what happens if later in the season Watson is medically cleared to practice / play? There is the possibility of a really 'interesting', evolving QB environment this season.
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There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do,
Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
He does, but he doesn't really need to play himself on to the team, the others do. Joe won't play himself off the team, but the other might play him off the team.
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Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
He does, but he doesn't really need to play himself on to the team, the others do. Joe won't play himself off the team, but the other might play him off the team.
He does, but he doesn't really need to play himself on to the team, the others do. Joe won't play himself off the team, but the other might play him off the team.
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
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He does, but he doesn't really need to play himself on to the team, the others do. Joe won't play himself off the team, but the other might play him off the team.
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
Believe it or not, I've seen 1st round QBs like Jim Plunkett, Steve Young, Doug Williams, and others play well on their 2nd or 3rd NFL teams (all 3 were SB Champs). All 3 went to significantly better Coaches with good surrounding talent to become the QBs they were supposed to be.
I'm not sold Pittsburgh had the right Offensive Coaching in tact for the development of Pickett. He didn't have great stats but he looked better in Philly. It'll be interesting if the Browns do have the right blend of talent and coaching. I'm pretty high on new OC Tommy Rees while anyone reading this might be thinking that's not the only thing I'm high on.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
Believe it or not, I've seen 1st round QBs like Jim Plunkett, Steve Young, Doug Williams, and others play well on their 2nd or 3rd NFL teams (all 3 were SB Champs). All 3 went to significantly better Coaches with good surrounding talent to become the QBs they were supposed to be.
I'm not sold Pittsburgh had the right Offensive Coaching in tact for the development of Pickett. He didn't have great stats but he looked better in Philly. It'll be interesting if the Browns do have the right blend of talent and coaching. I'm pretty high on new OC Tommy Rees while anyone reading this might be thinking that's not the only thing I'm high on.
Believe it or not, I've seen 1st round QBs like Jim Plunkett, Steve Young, Doug Williams, and others play well on their 2nd or 3rd NFL teams (all 3 were SB Champs). All 3 went to significantly better Coaches with good surrounding talent to become the QBs they were supposed to be.
I'm not sold Pittsburgh had the right Offensive Coaching in tact for the development of Pickett. He didn't have great stats but he looked better in Philly. It'll be interesting if the Browns do have the right blend of talent and coaching. I'm pretty high on new OC Tommy Rees while anyone reading this might be thinking that's not the only thing I'm high on.
In regard to Picketts play I feel like the training wheels have never been taken off. Is it because he’s limited in what he can do or was the Steelers staff just void of knowing how to develop him?
The cost was worth finding out.
I watched the Commanders game last season when he came in relief. Again it was about making him comfortable instead letting him rip it.
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For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
Believe it or not, I've seen 1st round QBs like Jim Plunkett, Steve Young, Doug Williams, and others play well on their 2nd or 3rd NFL teams (all 3 were SB Champs). All 3 went to significantly better Coaches with good surrounding talent to become the QBs they were supposed to be.
I'm not sold Pittsburgh had the right Offensive Coaching in tact for the development of Pickett. He didn't have great stats but he looked better in Philly. It'll be interesting if the Browns do have the right blend of talent and coaching. I'm pretty high on new OC Tommy Rees while anyone reading this might be thinking that's not the only thing I'm high on.
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He does, but he doesn't really need to play himself on to the team, the others do. Joe won't play himself off the team, but the other might play him off the team.
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
I don't know man.
I see it like this. Some honest question;
Do you think Joe will be the long term starter for this team? I don't think so.
All the others you can say at minimum, maybe.
I do know Pickett gets some Pittsburgh bias against, but i don't hold that against him. I am not saying he will be the guy, but he in my mind is in the maybe category like Gabe and Sanders.
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For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
I don't know man.
I see it like this. Some honest question;
Do you think Joe will be the long term starter for this team? I don't think so.
All the others you can say at minimum, maybe.
I do know Pickett gets some Pittsburgh bias against, but i don't hold that against him. I am not saying he will be the guy, but he in my mind is in the maybe category like Gabe and Sanders.
I don't know man.
I see it like this. Some honest question;
Do you think Joe will be the long term starter for this team? I don't think so.
All the others you can say at minimum, maybe.
I do know Pickett gets some Pittsburgh bias against, but i don't hold that against him. I am not saying he will be the guy, but he in my mind is in the maybe category like Gabe and Sanders.
I think the Browns set themselves up to get their franchise QB next draft, unless one of the three young guys somehow changes their minds.
But I would still start the season with Flacco as the starter. I can't see any vets on the team excited about Pickett/Gabriel/Sanders starting from the opener.
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For what it's worth, there's some local Browns media guys who still think Kenny Pickett might end up the starter over Flacco... I don't understand it, hell one of the guys saying it doesn't either (Jason Lloyd) but I guess we'll see.
I don't know man.
I see it like this. Some honest question;
Do you think Joe will be the long term starter for this team? I don't think so.
All the others you can say at minimum, maybe.
I do know Pickett gets some Pittsburgh bias against, but i don't hold that against him. I am not saying he will be the guy, but he in my mind is in the maybe category like Gabe and Sanders.
I don't know man.
I see it like this. Some honest question;
Do you think Joe will be the long term starter for this team? I don't think so.
All the others you can say at minimum, maybe.
I do know Pickett gets some Pittsburgh bias against, but i don't hold that against him. I am not saying he will be the guy, but he in my mind is in the maybe category like Gabe and Sanders.
Interesting question you backed pretty well.
My thought on that is I'm hoping Flacco is only here with the same idea/thought process the Browns once had with Gary Danielson. He was here so Kosar didn't have to start until week 7 in the rookie year. It also didn't hurt that both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take even more pressure off the young QB. After that year, the Browns signed vets like Mike Pagel and Don Strock to back up Kosar and both played well when needed (unless I drank too much beer that day).
Pickett was a 1st round draft pick and he's young enough to warrant the opportunity to be here. I like what you said on that. Between him, Sanders and Gabriel - he's the only one somebody drafted in round 1. He also has experience and he did play for 1 smart offensive team in PA. Seems like that's a good enough competition to the extent 1 of them can replace Flacco some time this season and hopefully at least 1 of the other 2 impresses the Browns enough to stay.
Nothing about 3-14 was fun last year; and that didn't even get us the pick of the litter. More specifically, the Browns have to play even uglier football than that if you want the pick of the litter next year. Fair or not, a lot of the offensive coaching staff will get fired in the process and how has this worked for us since 1999? Or, since Jimmy bought the team? All that being the case, what guarantee is there that this QB class holds the answers to all our prayers?
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