Anderson to start against the Bengals
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Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
First, I doubt the two QB's got a different story. Quinn is by nature conservative...and considering Mangini has stressed NO TURNOVERS...probably played TOO conservative. DA, well, he is DA and likely blew that off and decided he would win Mangini over with his gun for an arm. Surprisingly, it worked.
Mangini however should not be judged by the first 3 games against 3 undefeated teams with a team that has over 50% turnover since last year. We are young, we are raw, and we have a new system and nobody has played a REAL game together before these 3 games.
We had competitions at EVERY position all pre-season...so give it a few weeks and a couple of potential patsies (the next 2 weeks should tell) before we even THINK about a moratorium on Mangini.
Consider this...the Jets are doing great this year...WITH ALL THE PLAYERS MANGINI COACHED UP!!!
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The last line in this story just cracks me up. Glad it looks like I am not going to be able to watch this weeks debacle.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-b...p&type=lgns
BEREA, Ohio (AP)—Derek Anderson(notes) will start at quarterback for the Cleveland Browns on Sunday against Cincinnati.
Coach Eric Mangini has decided to go with Anderson, a Pro Bowler in 2007, over Brady Quinn(notes), who opened the season as Cleveland’s starter but was benched at halftime last Sunday in Baltimore.
Mangini believes the Browns have a better chance to move the ball with Anderson.
“I’m excited about the opportunity,” Anderson said. “We’re all competitors, we all want to play. I’m ready to go.”
Mangini spent the entire training camp deciding on a quarterback before picking Quinn over Anderson. But after Quinn threw an interception on the Browns’ first possession on Sunday, Mangini benched Quinn after just 10 quarters this season and inserted Anderson.
Anderson had more success moving Cleveland’s offense but threw three picks in the 34-3 loss to the Ravens.
“I felt like I went out there and did what I can do,” Anderson said.
Glad to see throwing 3 awful picks (and what could have been 1 or 2 more) is what DA thinks he can do
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Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
First, I doubt the two QB's got a different story. Quinn is by nature conservative...and considering Mangini has stressed NO TURNOVERS...probably played TOO conservative. DA, well, he is DA and likely blew that off and decided he would win Mangini over with his gun for an arm. Surprisingly, it worked.
Mangini however should not be judged by the first 3 games against 3 undefeated teams with a team that has over 50% turnover since last year. We are young, we are raw, and we have a new system and nobody has played a REAL game together before these 3 games.
We had competitions at EVERY position all pre-season...so give it a few weeks and a couple of potential patsies (the next 2 weeks should tell) before we even THINK about a moratorium on Mangini.
Consider this...the Jets are doing great this year...WITH ALL THE PLAYERS MANGINI COACHED UP!!!
First, I doubt the two QB's got a different story. Quinn is by nature conservative...and considering Mangini has stressed NO TURNOVERS...probably played TOO conservative. DA, well, he is DA and likely blew that off and decided he would win Mangini over with his gun for an arm. Surprisingly, it worked.
Mangini however should not be judged by the first 3 games against 3 undefeated teams with a team that has over 50% turnover since last year. We are young, we are raw, and we have a new system and nobody has played a REAL game together before these 3 games.
We had competitions at EVERY position all pre-season...so give it a few weeks and a couple of potential patsies (the next 2 weeks should tell) before we even THINK about a moratorium on Mangini.
Consider this...the Jets are doing great this year...WITH ALL THE PLAYERS MANGINI COACHED UP!!!
JADBF told me to judge Mangini after 10 games and i will do just that. Hopefully the future is a lot brighter.
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I just hope he lights it up. Browns fans are pissed about the start of this season and it'll be embarassing if he comes out as Anderception.
I still don't think he's the long term answer, but would LOVE to be proven dead wrong.
However, if Quinn becomes successful somewhere else, Mangini will have looked like a nervous little girl for pulling the plug after 3 losses against undefeated teams.
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Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
I must say I have been holding out hope that Mangini would be able to turn this club around. I know things need to get worse sometimes before they improve. But after a QB move like this, and by Mangini's lies I can't help but to start thinking the guy is another bust. DAMNIT CLEVELAND WHY CAN'T ANYTHING GO RIGHT IN THIS ORGANIZATION. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS UNTIL FOOTBALL SEASON AND BY WEEK THREE COUNTING THE DAYS UNTIL ITS OVER.
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Mangini is an idiot.
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Yeah WPB, everyone seems to forget that fact. Mangini flat out lied, he said once he decided on his starter, that that is who would be behind center the WHOLE season. Since Quinn has been playing so conservative, he must've told BQ and DA a different story.
SO our coach, is a flat out liar now. Not only did he make the worst OC hire of all time, he is also an asshole and a liar, not to mention a terrible coach with poor descion making and people skills.
I dont know if any of you remember but I was one of the few who wanted to keep Rac n Rolls on account of his injury plagued 08 season and really not gettin a fair shit. At least with him we would still have Chud and an offense that has been with this team for more than 2 seasons
First, I doubt the two QB's got a different story. Quinn is by nature conservative...and considering Mangini has stressed NO TURNOVERS...probably played TOO conservative. DA, well, he is DA and likely blew that off and decided he would win Mangini over with his gun for an arm. Surprisingly, it worked.
Mangini however should not be judged by the first 3 games against 3 undefeated teams with a team that has over 50% turnover since last year. We are young, we are raw, and we have a new system and nobody has played a REAL game together before these 3 games.
We had competitions at EVERY position all pre-season...so give it a few weeks and a couple of potential patsies (the next 2 weeks should tell) before we even THINK about a moratorium on Mangini.
Consider this...the Jets are doing great this year...WITH ALL THE PLAYERS MANGINI COACHED UP!!!
First, I doubt the two QB's got a different story. Quinn is by nature conservative...and considering Mangini has stressed NO TURNOVERS...probably played TOO conservative. DA, well, he is DA and likely blew that off and decided he would win Mangini over with his gun for an arm. Surprisingly, it worked.
Mangini however should not be judged by the first 3 games against 3 undefeated teams with a team that has over 50% turnover since last year. We are young, we are raw, and we have a new system and nobody has played a REAL game together before these 3 games.
We had competitions at EVERY position all pre-season...so give it a few weeks and a couple of potential patsies (the next 2 weeks should tell) before we even THINK about a moratorium on Mangini.
Consider this...the Jets are doing great this year...WITH ALL THE PLAYERS MANGINI COACHED UP!!!
Bullshit. We're not judging by losses; we're judging by HOW we lost and what else is going on.
Get Mangini the xxxx out of here. He sucks donkey balls and this team will continue to suck ass as long as he is in charge and Lerner owns it.
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Zombo said:
Anderson is the better prospect. Let's all deal with that and move on.Maybe he saves the season, maybe he sucks and we start with a new QB next year.
But I've seen enough of Quinn to know that Anderson brings more to the table with his arm and quick release. You get a guy like Anderson to play smarter and more disciplined ... you've got something.
Quinn has pretty average skills and he's not ready for prime time.
Anderson has better skills and more seasoning.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Like I said ... make the switch after three games if Quinn doesn't start doing something.
EXCELLENT move Mangini.
Now let's blow out the Bungles and remember what it was like when football was fun.
Zombo
Congrats on getting your way.
The only thing this accomplishes is the path being free and clear for the next QB.
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Sucks that Quinn struggled so badly. I loved his work ethic. But, if you can't hack it here...best of luck elsewhere. This is where QBs come to die.
I'm with the decision to start DA. But, we need to stick to it until seasons end. He won't win us many games but we can't just shuffle QBs. I know he played poorly in is 3 INT half of a game. But, he came in having to air it out and not having played in a few weeks. He actually had decent touch of his short passes for a change. He'll continue to throw multiple pick games a few deep grabs will finally open up our running game. That will hopefully help get some points on the board and make our losses less embarrassing.
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Its awful early to make all of these judgements on mangini, typically things get worse before they get better
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Well, so much for sticking with decisions. All I have to say is that Mangini must be under some internal heat to get the browns to stop playing such shitty football that he has gone into that mode where coaches just change whatever they can in order to attempt to win one football game. You stay the course when you have confidence in your long term vision of a team. Confusion and chaos reign in cleveland for another year.
Well, so much for sticking with decisions. All I have to say is that Mangini must be under some internal heat to get the browns to stop playing such shitty football that he has gone into that mode where coaches just change whatever they can in order to attempt to win one football game. You stay the course when you have confidence in your long term vision of a team. Confusion and chaos reign in cleveland for another year.
This is all true except I think in this situation, the coach knows this team is not the team that will fulfill his vision. 1....2....3
ROSTER FLIP!
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Deciding who is the QB for the browns is like driving a 1979 Yugo. No matter who drives it is still a shitty ride.
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Im with WPB here, the NUMBER 1 WORST thing that can happen is us drafting a QB in the first round of next years draft. We do not have the talent on this team that a rookie can come in and devolp sucessfully. All we will do is ruin somebody elses career. We need to build this team up with talent, Eric Berry for starters next year then get our QB. I hoped it would be Quin so we didnt have to draft a QB down the road but that ship has sailed with Mangi pulling him after 3 games (only in cleveland would something like that take place). Hope we can get that first round out of him now. If you knew you were only gonna give him a short lease to suceed or fail they should have just traded him at peak value. How freaking stupid do you have to be to believe that any QB can be successful with the talent we have on this team after 3 games. What a freaking joke. Oh by the way where are those damn rookie WR we drafted in the 2nd round. We must have drafted like shit because i see rookie WRs picked after our guys being big contributors to their new teams. Meanwhile our guys havent even seen the damn field.
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The biggest mistake of all may have been Phil savage drafting Quinn in the first place.
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Anderson is the better prospect. Let's all deal with that and move on.
Maybe he saves the season, maybe he sucks and we start with a new QB next year.
But I've seen enough of Quinn to know that Anderson brings more to the table with his arm and quick release. You get a guy like Anderson to play smarter and more disciplined ... you've got something.
Quinn has pretty average skills and he's not ready for prime time.
Anderson has better skills and more seasoning.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Like I said ... make the switch after three games if Quinn doesn't start doing something.
EXCELLENT move Mangini.
Now let's blow out the Bungles and remember what it was like when football was fun.
Zombo
Instead of celebrating, you should be concerned that the head coach isn't as smart as you are and after going through a prolonged camp competition with the intent of eliminating any controversy and committing to one of the QB's, he admits (implicitly only of course) he can't evaluate QB's at all.
Sounds a lot like the guy we just fired methinks. Its truly mind boggling. I simply have to hope that Quinn pulled a mental hammy and did a 180 degree regression from preseason/last year to his 10 quarters this year. Any other explanation is an awful reflection on Mangini & Co.
Also, the bolded sentence in your post strikes me. If DA develops into a playoff caliber QB I'll have to bow down to the almighty Z (and will gladly do it), but my money is on DA not developing into that type of QB anytime soon.
“I felt like I went out there and did what I can do,” Anderson said.
The fact that this guy somehow thinks throwing 3 INT's in one half of football is "okay", tells me he's not overly interested in learning the cerebral aspects of the game. No accountability at all. Something like, "It was a tough situation being down 20 and I really pressed to try and make something happen. I'd like those throws back again, but was excited to be out there competiting" would have been nice.
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