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Fauci etc must be prosecuted - the mrna vaccine was contributing to the mutant virus proliferation

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  • dammit. damn dirtbag communist china.

    https://redstate.com/katie-jerkovich/2025/08/05/rfk-jr-drops-bombshell-about-mrna-vaccines-and-pandemic-it-will-make-you-furious-n2192489

    RFK Jr. Drops Bombshell About mRNA Vaccines and Pandemic - It Will Make You Furious

    "Kennedy announced that the science has been reviewed, and it shows that the shots forced on the public by the government to supposedly stop the COVID pandemic actually helped cause the variants and caused the pandemic to go on longer."

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    "We reviewed the science, listened to the experts, and acted," Kennedy's post read. "BARDA is terminating 22 mRNA vaccine development investments because the data show these vaccines fail to protect effectively against upper respiratory infections like COVID and flu."

    "We're shifting that funding toward safer, broader vaccine platforms that remain effective even as viruses mutate," he added."

  • Not to digress from the topic but I picked up this great Haversack by Helikon-Tex on Amazon.. My Land Nav Kit and My Helikon Sere Pouch , fit perfect inside the sack.. It has nice amenities and I was able to attach a foraging pouch on the side.. The side pouch is from Livans also obtained on Amazon.. The sack has a water bottle pocket inside.. It has decent rigidity... Its going to be my scout bag.. I keep an emergency poncho.. A head net and a UCO spork inside.. A bit prcey but well worth it.. I bought the shoulder pad as a separate item from Zinz.. I can't wait to try it out in the field..

    Haversack!.thumb.jpg.018f0839e2dfb51fab8a97003c36376d.jpg

  • Not to digress from the topic but I picked up this great Haversack by Helikon-Tex on Amazon.. My Land Nav Kit and My Helikon Sere Pouch , fit perfect inside the sack.. It has nice amenities and I was able to attach a foraging pouch on the side.. The side pouch is from Livans also obtained on Amazon.. The sack has a water bottle pocket inside.. It has decent rigidity... Its going to be my scout bag.. I keep an emergency poncho.. A head net and a UCO spork inside.. A bit prcey but well worth it.. I bought the shoulder pad as a separate item from Zinz.. I can't wait to try it out in the field..

    Haversack!.thumb.jpg.018f0839e2dfb51fab8a97003c36376d.jpg

    @nickers said:

    Not to digress from the topic but I picked up this great Haversack by Helikon-Tex on Amazon.. My Land Nav Kit and My Helikon Sere Pouch , fit perfect inside the sack.. It has nice amenities and I was able to attach a foraging pouch on the side.. The side pouch is from Livans also obtained on Amazon.. The sack has a water bottle pocket inside.. It has decent rigidity... Its going to be my scout bag.. I keep an emergency poncho.. A head net and a UCO spork inside.. A bit prcey but well worth it.. I bought the shoulder pad as a separate item from Zinz.. I can't wait to try it out in the field..

    Haversack!.thumb.jpg.018f0839e2dfb51fab8a97003c36376d.jpg

    no problem with the digressing, I'm going to repack my go bag and hiking bag again. Adding birch bark to your fire kit is a great idea, unless you already do. Another idea - binoculars. Infra-red. They are amazing, and you can see whole scenes. So much stuff and information. I'm going to buy a book on navigation from Nature Reliance. Check out their classes.

  • No one I trust more to research vaccines than the guy that has a history of being strongly anti vaxx

    And if he ever gets data he doesn't like he can just fire the person collecting the data, like trump did

  • @nickers said:

    Not to digress from the topic but I picked up this great Haversack by Helikon-Tex on Amazon.. My Land Nav Kit and My Helikon Sere Pouch , fit perfect inside the sack.. It has nice amenities and I was able to attach a foraging pouch on the side.. The side pouch is from Livans also obtained on Amazon.. The sack has a water bottle pocket inside.. It has decent rigidity... Its going to be my scout bag.. I keep an emergency poncho.. A head net and a UCO spork inside.. A bit prcey but well worth it.. I bought the shoulder pad as a separate item from Zinz.. I can't wait to try it out in the field..

    Haversack!.thumb.jpg.018f0839e2dfb51fab8a97003c36376d.jpg

    no problem with the digressing, I'm going to repack my go bag and hiking bag again. Adding birch bark to your fire kit is a great idea, unless you already do. Another idea - binoculars. Infra-red. They are amazing, and you can see whole scenes. So much stuff and information. I'm going to buy a book on navigation from Nature Reliance. Check out their classes.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no problem with the digressing, I'm going to repack my go bag and hiking bag again. Adding birch bark to your fire kit is a great idea, unless you already do. Another idea - binoculars. Infra-red. They are amazing, and you can see whole scenes. So much stuff and information. I'm going to buy a book on navigation from Nature Reliance. Check out their classes.

    Yeah , I'm waiting for the next Orienteering class  over here at Jordan Creek Park at the Enviornmental Learning center in the fall.... Its just around the corner about half mile from where I live.. I also bought a nice large wool blanket.. Browns colors ironically.. Its nice thick and soft.. I only need one telescopic lens as I'm blind in my left eye.... I wish I could afford a Thermal FLIR cam.. Those things are great...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRJ6DSGT?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

  • @calfoxwc said:

    no problem with the digressing, I'm going to repack my go bag and hiking bag again. Adding birch bark to your fire kit is a great idea, unless you already do. Another idea - binoculars. Infra-red. They are amazing, and you can see whole scenes. So much stuff and information. I'm going to buy a book on navigation from Nature Reliance. Check out their classes.

    Yeah , I'm waiting for the next Orienteering class  over here at Jordan Creek Park at the Enviornmental Learning center in the fall.... Its just around the corner about half mile from where I live.. I also bought a nice large wool blanket.. Browns colors ironically.. Its nice thick and soft.. I only need one telescopic lens as I'm blind in my left eye.... I wish I could afford a Thermal FLIR cam.. Those things are great...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRJ6DSGT?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

    @nickers said:

    I wish I could afford a Thermal FLIR cam.. Those things are great...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRJ6DSGT?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

    I want a couple of wool blankets from army surplus. Not cheap.

    Here is a possibility:

    https://verniershop.com/products/long-range-night-vision-binoculars

  • No one I trust more to research vaccines than the guy that has a history of being strongly anti vaxx

    And if he ever gets data he doesn't like he can just fire the person collecting the data, like trump did

    @mld-woody said:

    No one I trust more to research vaccines than the guy that has a history of being strongly anti vaxx

    And if he ever gets data he doesn't like he can just fire the person collecting the data, like trump did

    Current NIH chair is Jay Bhattacharya, MD/PhD. He had an entire career of publications in the field of epidemiology, but because his opinions were at odds with Fauci's opinions during the pandemic, big tech went and silenced him at the behest of the Biden admin. Let's not pretend that it's just lay people who have serious concerns with the potential side effects of mRNA vaccines. 2020-2022 was a very dark time for academic medicine that was focused more on dogma ("trust the science") versus the actual scientific method. I'm a very outspoken person, but I kept my mouth shut with my concerns because I didn't want to get kicked out of residency. The climate has thankfully improved since then, but the draconian measures that were taken have caused lay people to trust medical science even less, and now the rates of pretty much all vaccinations have fallen. 

    Here is an interview Dr. Bhattacharya did this month where he speaks on the danger of groupthink in academia. He's one of Trump's best appointees.

    https://reason.com/2025/08/02/science-needs-dissent-nih-director-jay-bhattacharya-on-covid-autism-and-climate-change/

  • Here you go cal.. Here's a better look.. The Land Nav pouch is a Condor Sidekick.. I love it!..I have two foraging pouches.. one for holding a small bush pot and a fuel canister.. The other items go in the haversack.. I will include links for all of the items.. And yes.. I knew about birch bark.. Just haven't had a chance to procure any.. I'm having trouble finding a place that sells chert and flint... Its hard to find in NE Ohio.. But I did find some in Nevada and Arizona by happenstance on the ground..

    https://www.amazon.com/Livans-Tactical-Drastring-Adjustable-Paintball/dp/B07Y7CN2QL/ref=sr_1_12?crid=1BBA9HM21L8ZF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9KrR-P2NFlcBYZS6FBC-pBH4TG129944z06Q_QO3P9qYyKIpLdSRxrFTcUBbmG1Mh1HW9uCBnBJWxXCF9oTrpwUc9hfYEu8JVZruw9w9Kw8r3LXrsGWQIEzyfJ3D246qhDFeO8p8arfreAB6XUwcukxXADinOPyVPynoVPlcP5Uh_pOtYImuENHyQnpmrsUqsu1by4ZCujaEIY3Gt6CX3M-F38LDe7D4zqw2qo1o6ka9DY5NY4VZtkeeRP-DTLmvTAhmY-_uWKDu9hCdg-5KKvDcWLRRyQ8q_RRb0q0hgHc.o7YJh6HJavy3pnMzG9VS7ztp58Y47OewM5W5Qccn7go&dib_tag=se&keywords=livans%2Btactical%2Bpouch&qid=1754515676&sprefix=Livans%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-12&th=1

    https://www.amazon.com/Condor-Sidekick-Pouch-Coyote-Brown/dp/B072FKPHQV/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1VCUGUAVR9D22&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3aDvf22lFl8z1xPLGki8URojDfVBs5W6_LZwpTSLwJs02fCXjEinhSBBnpiA2T8Oc_A9eZCCSY67_s2gNCxdDrGRexzi8tHQgr2StXePK4n5YpTFUIj_OM0et-yvHltWqH6FXStAnUoqsIe9KBkmJLgzgNgr5eDEMG_Q98Eh0rRX1zzX8Tb_zRTO_l2b8QOWo6j4RtLtU_jcTQ0CLiwvMDKqfXsAmGAjRr9ODB50io0sTJR1AUwRsJpvCMc1TNKL_9VujnJeLYAYsOrk3SlCQHxLAGbZPWskN2U2Im1NCEE.TNkClV1LUlPurXNsiAnP7SG-gQ22mybjJdVSxo8AzzU&dib_tag=se&keywords=Condor+Sidekick+pouch&qid=1754515587&sprefix=condor+sidekick+pouch%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-2

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  • @mld-woody said:

    No one I trust more to research vaccines than the guy that has a history of being strongly anti vaxx

    And if he ever gets data he doesn't like he can just fire the person collecting the data, like trump did

    Current NIH chair is Jay Bhattacharya, MD/PhD. He had an entire career of publications in the field of epidemiology, but because his opinions were at odds with Fauci's opinions during the pandemic, big tech went and silenced him at the behest of the Biden admin. Let's not pretend that it's just lay people who have serious concerns with the potential side effects of mRNA vaccines. 2020-2022 was a very dark time for academic medicine that was focused more on dogma ("trust the science") versus the actual scientific method. I'm a very outspoken person, but I kept my mouth shut with my concerns because I didn't want to get kicked out of residency. The climate has thankfully improved since then, but the draconian measures that were taken have caused lay people to trust medical science even less, and now the rates of pretty much all vaccinations have fallen. 

    Here is an interview Dr. Bhattacharya did this month where he speaks on the danger of groupthink in academia. He's one of Trump's best appointees.

    https://reason.com/2025/08/02/science-needs-dissent-nih-director-jay-bhattacharya-on-covid-autism-and-climate-change/

    @vaportrail said:

    Current NIH chair is Jay Bhattacharya, MD/PhD. He had an entire career of publications in the field of epidemiology, but because his opinions were at odds with Fauci's opinions during the pandemic, big tech went and silenced him at the behest of the Biden admin. Let's not pretend that it's just lay people who have serious concerns with the potential side effects of mRNA vaccines. 2020-2022 was a very dark time for academic medicine that was focused more on dogma ("trust the science") versus the actual scientific method. I'm a very outspoken person, but I kept my mouth shut with my concerns because I didn't want to get kicked out of residency. The climate has thankfully improved since then, but the draconian measures that were taken have caused lay people to trust medical science even less, and now the rates of pretty much all vaccinations have fallen. 

    Here is an interview Dr. Bhattacharya did this month where he speaks on the danger of groupthink in academia. He's one of Trump's best appointees.

    https://reason.com/2025/08/02/science-needs-dissent-nih-director-jay-bhattacharya-on-covid-autism-and-climate-change/

    And you don't think there's any blame to give people like RFK regarding the dropping vaccination rates? 

    Sorry, but if we have years and years of a guy pushing anti vaxx conspiracy theories I'm not going to trust anything he reports out regarding vaccines. There are plenty of quotes from folks in related medical leadership being against his decision. We're setting ourselves back cutting medical research. 

    But hey, at least that's more money for the military and Israel 

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  • @vaportrail said:

    Current NIH chair is Jay Bhattacharya, MD/PhD. He had an entire career of publications in the field of epidemiology, but because his opinions were at odds with Fauci's opinions during the pandemic, big tech went and silenced him at the behest of the Biden admin. Let's not pretend that it's just lay people who have serious concerns with the potential side effects of mRNA vaccines. 2020-2022 was a very dark time for academic medicine that was focused more on dogma ("trust the science") versus the actual scientific method. I'm a very outspoken person, but I kept my mouth shut with my concerns because I didn't want to get kicked out of residency. The climate has thankfully improved since then, but the draconian measures that were taken have caused lay people to trust medical science even less, and now the rates of pretty much all vaccinations have fallen. 

    Here is an interview Dr. Bhattacharya did this month where he speaks on the danger of groupthink in academia. He's one of Trump's best appointees.

    https://reason.com/2025/08/02/science-needs-dissent-nih-director-jay-bhattacharya-on-covid-autism-and-climate-change/

    And you don't think there's any blame to give people like RFK regarding the dropping vaccination rates? 

    Sorry, but if we have years and years of a guy pushing anti vaxx conspiracy theories I'm not going to trust anything he reports out regarding vaccines. There are plenty of quotes from folks in related medical leadership being against his decision. We're setting ourselves back cutting medical research. 

    But hey, at least that's more money for the military and Israel 

    @mld-woody said:

    And you don't think there's any blame to give people like RFK regarding the dropping vaccination rates? 

    Sure, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to how many people who decided to opt out after the way the pandemic was handled.

  • @fairhooker11 said:

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    pretty much - dems demand everyone to be sheep and fall in line.

  • @fairhooker11 said:

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    oh, dammit. I didn't know that..... it explains a lot....

  • @mld-woody said:

    And you don't think there's any blame to give people like RFK regarding the dropping vaccination rates? 

    Sure, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to how many people who decided to opt out after the way the pandemic was handled.

    @vaportrail said:

    Sure, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to how many people who decided to opt out after the way the pandemic was handled.

    Not directly disagreeing, but I'd love to see data on that. Not to mention the comments from people like RFK and other anti vaxxers surely amplified anti vaxx sentiment during the pandemic. And now we have measles. Fun.