Flag burning poll
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This is free speech:
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Oh lord, he's spamming Facebook posts now. You must truly not have any legitimate point to make. When your views are just based on blind politics and not any principles this is what we get.
Also, this is the guy that got 15 years? Seems like you were leaving some details out ...
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Oh lord, he's spamming Facebook posts now. You must truly not have any legitimate point to make. When your views are just based on blind politics and not any principles this is what we get.
Also, this is the guy that got 15 years? Seems like you were leaving some details out ...
Oh lord, he's spamming Facebook posts now. You must truly not have any legitimate point to make. When your views are just based on blind politics and not any principles this is what we get.
Also, this is the guy that got 15 years? Seems like you were leaving some details out ...
The BBC is Leftist... And why should we believe them? ... They are FAKE news
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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Are you ok with burning a gay flag being a crime?
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No dude. You really don’t know what going on do you? You gotta toughen up buttercup.
ah, so it's ok to burn our American flag, "free speech", but its NOT OK to burn a gay flag because.....
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Oh lord, he's spamming Facebook posts now. You must truly not have any legitimate point to make. When your views are just based on blind politics and not any principles this is what we get.
Also, this is the guy that got 15 years? Seems like you were leaving some details out ...
The BBC is Leftist... And why should we believe them? ... They are FAKE news
The BBC is Leftist... And why should we believe them? ... They are FAKE news
It's still crazy to me that you're a real person out in the world. And then it's concerning knowing you vote.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
No dude. You really don’t know what going on do you? You gotta toughen up buttercup.
ah, so it's ok to burn our American flag, "free speech", but its NOT OK to burn a gay flag because.....
ah, so it's ok to burn our American flag, "free speech", but its NOT OK to burn a gay flag because.....
You’re not even understanding responses, what the fuck is up with you Calf?
Your question was “are you ok with burning a gay flag being a crime” and my response was “No dude.”
You can burn all the flags and you will not get under my skin. That’s how us thick skinned people roll. Gay pride flag? Fine. US flag? Fine.
Of the 2 of us l’m the only one upset by the latter. I don’t even think you understand what you’re arguing for or against at this point.
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Cal, bro, how completely lost are you right now? Are you even reading the responses? Can you read?
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Cal, bro, how completely lost are you right now? Are you even reading the responses? Can you read?
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It's still crazy to me that you're a real person out in the world. And then it's concerning knowing you vote.
Its concerning you are brainwashed by commies... You are a THREAT to America!
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@calfoxwc said:
so, the gay flag - that was arson - and threatening to burn down the building.
Not just owning a flag and burning in the street as some kind of protest.
Also, I find it pitiful that the woodpecker and the limp flower child don't understand what our American flag stands for, and how many people have died defending it, how many people died giving us our own FREE country.
Leftwing nutjobs FEEL it's ok, their "right" to hate our America. but you fail to us their bogus pronouns, and they want you fined, jobless, harassed and imprisoned.
Way over a million Americans have died to give us that flag, and to protect our country that flag stands for.
Those two need to thin...I mean, "feel" on that.
Oct 19, 2023Federal courts imposed significant sentences on criminal defendants who were convicted or pleaded guilty to arson. Defendants received anywhere from one to 35 years in federal prison. The reason for the wide disparity in sentencing is because many factors can influence sentencing for arson. For example,You need to get your shit together man. I’ve said almost a half dozen times now that it upsets me to see our flag being burned. I know what it means and l know the lives lost over it.
Apparently the only difference between you and l is that l don’t lose my head over it. That, and you don’t comprehend words anymore.
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@calfoxwc said:
so, the gay flag - that was arson - and threatening to burn down the building.
Not just owning a flag and burning in the street as some kind of protest.
Also, I find it pitiful that the woodpecker and the limp flower child don't understand what our American flag stands for, and how many people have died defending it, how many people died giving us our own FREE country.
Leftwing nutjobs FEEL it's ok, their "right" to hate our America. but you fail to us their bogus pronouns, and they want you fined, jobless, harassed and imprisoned.
Way over a million Americans have died to give us that flag, and to protect our country that flag stands for.
Those two need to thin...I mean, "feel" on that.
Oct 19, 2023Federal courts imposed significant sentences on criminal defendants who were convicted or pleaded guilty to arson. Defendants received anywhere from one to 35 years in federal prison. The reason for the wide disparity in sentencing is because many factors can influence sentencing for arson. For example,Sure, just delete and repost. It’s the obvious move. No one will ever know…
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did some limp flower child whine something?
so, the gay flag - that was arson - and threatening to burn down the building.
Not just owning a flag and burning in the street as some kind of protest.
Also, I find it pitiful that the woodpecker and the limp flower child don't understand what our American flag stands for, and how many people have died defending it, how many people died giving us our own FREE country.
Leftwing nutjobs FEEL it's ok, their "right" to hate our America. but you fail to us their bogus pronouns, and they want you fined, jobless, harassed and imprisoned.
Way over a million Americans have died to give us that flag, and to protect our country that flag stands for.
Those two need to thin...I mean, "feel" on that.
Oct 19, 2023Federal courts imposed significant sentences on criminal defendants who were convicted or pleaded guilty to arson. Defendants received anywhere from one to 35 years in federal prison. The reason for the wide disparity in sentencing is because many factors can influence sentencing for arson. For example, -
Deleting and reposting so he can have the last word in a thread? Cal has hit full tantrum mode. What a child.
The MAGA folks here very, very frequently cross wires on what they say their principles are and what the MAGA talking heads want them to say/do. Small government, freedom of speech, etc. All the time. The attempted mental gymnastics each time are hilarious. This is just the latest example.
1) real America supports freedom of speech, unlike you liberals!
2) no! You can't do that speech cuz it will anger real America!
3) angering real Americans is like yelling fire in a crowded theater! It is inciting a riot!
4) real Americans aren't like you snowflake liberals though! Always being triggered! Something something burn the gay flag something something
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Deleting and reposting so he can have the last word in a thread? Cal has hit full tantrum mode. What a child.
The MAGA folks here very, very frequently cross wires on what they say their principles are and what the MAGA talking heads want them to say/do. Small government, freedom of speech, etc. All the time. The attempted mental gymnastics each time are hilarious. This is just the latest example.
1) real America supports freedom of speech, unlike you liberals!
2) no! You can't do that speech cuz it will anger real America!
3) angering real Americans is like yelling fire in a crowded theater! It is inciting a riot!
4) real Americans aren't like you snowflake liberals though! Always being triggered! Something something burn the gay flag something something
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more deliberate misinterpretation of everything said so the stupid woodpecker can FEEL it made a valid point.
Doesn't work.
Go peck yourself, woodpecker. lol
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more deliberate misinterpretation of everything said so the stupid woodpecker can FEEL it made a valid point.
Doesn't work.
Go peck yourself, woodpecker. lol
more deliberate misinterpretation of everything said so the stupid woodpecker can FEEL it made a valid point.
Doesn't work.
Go peck yourself, woodpecker. lol
There is no misinterpreting there. You're flailing around to try and pretend your pro freedom of speech while really only being pro speech you agree with. And you're spiraling now.
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more deliberate misinterpretation of everything said so the stupid woodpecker can FEEL it made a valid point.
Doesn't work.
Go peck yourself, woodpecker. lol
There is no misinterpreting there. You're flailing around to try and pretend your pro freedom of speech while really only being pro speech you agree with. And you're spiraling now.
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Again, you and the other wimpy idiot thrive on interpersonal bitching because you are unable to intelligently discuss any issue on this forum. Shut up for once, and go look up about the fine line between free speech and hate speech.
The U.S. Constitution Online
Nov 3, 2024Understanding Hate Speech Hate speech occupies a unique space within First Amendment protections. The absence of a legal definition reflects the difficulty in categorizing expressions of deep-seated biases without infringing on free speech. -
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Again, you and the other wimpy idiot thrive on interpersonal bitching because you are unable to intelligently discuss any issue on this forum. Shut up for once, and go look up about the fine line between free speech and hate speech.
The U.S. Constitution Online
Nov 3, 2024Understanding Hate Speech Hate speech occupies a unique space within First Amendment protections. The absence of a legal definition reflects the difficulty in categorizing expressions of deep-seated biases without infringing on free speech.Again, you and the other wimpy idiot thrive on interpersonal bitching because you are unable to intelligently discuss any issue on this forum.
The irony in that sentence...
Alright cal, for the article you posted, what point are you attempting to make. Don't give me some insult riddled response, ignore my question and just yell at me to read it, etc. Tell me, in your own words, what point you think you're making by posting that article
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furthermore:
The Flag of Our Fathers Is Greater Than Banners of the False Gods
"How do you feel about burning the American flag? There’s a strange tension at work in this country about how we view the high reverence held by patriots when it comes to symbols of our nation, and the right to freely express. Based on conversations I've had throughout my life, I perceive that most who share my visceral reaction to seeing old glory in flames believe that the 1st Amendment should take priority in order that our rights to speech also remain guaranteed in times of belligerent rule. But in recent years, we observed that constitutional rights of expression take a back seat when the progressive zeitgeist comes up with its own religious markers, and rules to protect them from open critique.
President Trump recently signed an executive order that directs the Department of Justice to prioritize prosecuting the act of burning the American flag when it is done to incite riotous behavior, encourage violence, or as part of another crime. Do we want presidents unilaterally deciding what constitutes protected, versus unprotected, speech? No, we experienced enough of that under the Biden regime, which aggressively prosecuted and imprisoned those whose expression countered its aims. But that’s not the issue at hand. President Trump’s order is not about restricting speech, but discouraging unacceptable behavior in a nation of ordered liberty.
The White House acknowledges the Supreme Court’s 1989 Texas v. Johnson 5-4 ruling that protected flag burning as a means of protected expression. However, the executive order rightly notes that the court “never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to ‘fighting words’ is constitutionally protected.”
That aside, the issue to me is one of basic principle.
Merriam-Webster’s defines principle as “a comprehensive and fundamental law, doctrine, or assumption.” The words comprehensive and fundamental convey that the law, doctrine, or assumption must apply consistently, regardless of time, place, person(s) involved, or other contextual factors. A basic principle might state that it’s morally wrong for you to steal from me, and for me to steal from you. The rule applies equally. In contrast, it would be a violation of principle to say that you can steal from me, but I cannot steal from you. That kind of thinking constitutes a double standard. The application of double standards equates to hypocrisy.
AdvertisementBoth those things are commonplace in all eras. We routinely note the ‘rules for thee, but not for me’ approach that elites, political progressives, and sometimes childhood siblings favor. Arguments that could keep me on the side of freedom for people to burn the American flag were rooted in principle. You can’t deny their right of protest, and they can’t deny yours. That libertarian framing sounded reasonable, despite the sickening image of that deliberately offensive act. But a new flag took center stage on the national stage of late, and flipped the script.
It started off as a flag of multiple colors, referred to as ‘pride’ around 30 years ago. That banner has since evolved into a monstrosity that mutates at rates that would make viruses jealous, were they sentient. You know the one. For years, we have been accosted by it every June, as all the major brands queered their colors to ensure we know whose side they’re on in the cultural war. Some now call it the ‘progress’ flag. For simplicity, I refer to it as the Baal flag, after the imagined deity to whom ancient civilizations in the region of Canaan sacrificed their children and made boisterous fools of themselves in pointless acts of worship. In those days, defacing symbols of manmade gods often drew mob calls for the perpetrator’s execution.
How similarly enlightened many are today in calling for anyone who damages a Baal flag, or leaves tire markings on painted variants in crosswalks…where cars are driven… to be punished by the civil magistrate. It gets worse. Many American citizens have faced the fury of state legal systems for expressing objections to the forced acceptance of LGBTQ+IA ideologies in the public square.
Adolfo Martinez was sentenced to 15 years in jail for ripping a pride flag off a heretical church and burning it in 2019. In Florida, Dylan Brewer was charged with felony criminal mischief for doing tire burnouts on a street pride mural in Delray Beach, and eventually accepted a plea deal reducing it to a misdemeanor. He received one year of probation and had to pay approximately $5,700 in restitution. Alexander Jerich served two years of probation for a similar “offense.”
Ruslan Turko was charged with first-degree malicious mischief for the same kind of expression in the state of Washington, where defacing public ‘pride’ symbols is a felony, but burning the American flag is not. There are other examples in which there has been a tremendous disparity between which symbols are given protection from behavior that activists traditionally frame as protected speech, and which are not."
Chase Spears served as a U.S. Army public affairs officer for 20 years and is host of the Finding Your Spine podcast. Among other pursuits, he enjoys writing about courage, civil-military relations, communication ethics, and policy. Chase holds a Ph.D. in leadership communication from Kansas State University, where his research focused on the political realities of military norms and actions. You can find him on social media @drchasespears and connect with his work at chasespears.com.
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