How Bad is our Offense?
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This made me think and go back to look at last years first 3 games.
For those that don't remember, CLE started 0-3 last season with the following lines from the starting QB:
vs DAL 11/24, 114 yards, 4.8 Y/A, 0 INT, 1 TD, 74QBR
vs PIT 18/32, 166 yards, 5.2 Y/A, 2 INT, 0 TD, 44.5QBR
vs BAL 14/37, 125 yards, 3.4 Y/A, 3 INT, 1 TD, 22.9QBR
Is this years start really all that worse w/ a different guy under center, with less weapons on offense this year than last year?
Masters said:
This made me think and go back to look at last years first 3 games.For those that don't remember, CLE started 0-3 last season with the following lines from the starting QB:
vs DAL 11/24, 114 yards, 4.8 Y/A, 0 INT, 1 TD, 74QBR
vs PIT 18/32, 166 yards, 5.2 Y/A, 2 INT, 0 TD, 44.5QBR
vs BAL 14/37, 125 yards, 3.4 Y/A, 3 INT, 1 TD, 22.9QBR
Is this years start really all that worse w/ a different guy under center, with less weapons on offense this year than last year?
how quickly we all forget
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Really doesn't matter. Forget about the QB. We just had a team score 3 rushing TDs without as much as a finger laid on the RBs, and the young QB Flacco had a career day passing. Incredible how pathetic we've become as a team since 1999. It's necessary that you have the guy @ QB but I'm not sure this team could win with Quinn or Anderson minus a D and a running game.
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Really doesn't matter. Forget about the QB. We just had a team score 3 rushing TDs without as much as a finger laid on the RBs, and the young QB Flacco had a career day passing. Incredible how pathetic we've become as a team since 1999. It's necessary that you have the guy @ QB but I'm not sure this team could win with Quinn or Anderson minus a D and a running game.
I'm not sure this team could win with Quinn or Anderson minus a D and a running game.
Or a legit receiving target outside of Edwards
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What is the mystery surrounding Robiskie ?
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What is the mystery surrounding Robiskie ?
What is the mystery surrounding Robiskie ?
If I were to speculate, I'd suspect he's been in some kind of doghouse because of his initial hold out. But that would be pure rumor-esc speculation by me.
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Yes, I know. Watching our offense is like watching paint dry...but here are some points to ponder:
Minnesota is the #4 overall defense to date, giving up only 259.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 268 yards, BETTER than their average. They are also #4 vs the pass at 167.7. BQ got 179 yards vs the, BETTER than the other 2 teams (Det/SF).
Denver is the #1 overall defense to date, giving up only 214.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 200 of them, so we were close to the average. They are also the #2 passing defense, giving up 136.3 yards per game. BQ got 146, actually BETTER than the other 2 teams (Cinci/Oak).
Baltimore is the #7 overall defense, giving up 282.7 yards per game...we shit the bed at 187....and I know we don't need to get into the passing game as that was atrocious.
The biggest problem is that we are averaging WELL below on the rushing game. Denver (78.4, we got 54), Minnesota (82, we got 89 which was decent), Baltimore (92.7, we got 71). When 89 is the TOP game, you know you are not lighting it up.
So, looking at the stats, you will see that BQ has actually done BETTER vs like competition than 4 other QB's....while the Baltimore game he got pulled despite going 6/8....where I think a change in ATTACK would have been better than a change in QB's.
The offense, overall, has struggled....but keep in mind that at the start of the season, we have actually done BETTER than the other opponents of these TOP RATED DEFENSES!
Coming up we have Cincinnati (#16 overall, #19 pass, #11 rush) and Buffalo (#28 overall, #28 pass, #18 rush). If we struggle against THESE 2 teams, we know we have a problem. This is why I think we NEED to start BQ. DA has already proven he can feast or famine against them (just see 2007 Cinci for proof).
Yes, I know. Watching our offense is like watching paint dry...but here are some points to ponder:
Minnesota is the #4 overall defense to date, giving up only 259.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 268 yards, BETTER than their average. They are also #4 vs the pass at 167.7. BQ got 179 yards vs the, BETTER than the other 2 teams (Det/SF).
Denver is the #1 overall defense to date, giving up only 214.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 200 of them, so we were close to the average. They are also the #2 passing defense, giving up 136.3 yards per game. BQ got 146, actually BETTER than the other 2 teams (Cinci/Oak).
Baltimore is the #7 overall defense, giving up 282.7 yards per game...we shit the bed at 187....and I know we don't need to get into the passing game as that was atrocious.
The biggest problem is that we are averaging WELL below on the rushing game. Denver (78.4, we got 54), Minnesota (82, we got 89 which was decent), Baltimore (92.7, we got 71). When 89 is the TOP game, you know you are not lighting it up.
So, looking at the stats, you will see that BQ has actually done BETTER vs like competition than 4 other QB's....while the Baltimore game he got pulled despite going 6/8....where I think a change in ATTACK would have been better than a change in QB's.
The offense, overall, has struggled....but keep in mind that at the start of the season, we have actually done BETTER than the other opponents of these TOP RATED DEFENSES!
Coming up we have Cincinnati (#16 overall, #19 pass, #11 rush) and Buffalo (#28 overall, #28 pass, #18 rush). If we struggle against THESE 2 teams, we know we have a problem. This is why I think we NEED to start BQ. DA has already proven he can feast or famine against them (just see 2007 Cinci for proof).
THEY ARE ALL TOP TEN DEFENSES....CAUSE THEY PLAYED THE BROWNS! Don't be surprised if both Cincy and Buff don't move up in Defensive cats...after playing CB...take note
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Yes, I know. Watching our offense is like watching paint dry...but here are some points to ponder:
Minnesota is the #4 overall defense to date, giving up only 259.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 268 yards, BETTER than their average. They are also #4 vs the pass at 167.7. BQ got 179 yards vs the, BETTER than the other 2 teams (Det/SF).
Denver is the #1 overall defense to date, giving up only 214.7 yards per game. The Browns managed 200 of them, so we were close to the average. They are also the #2 passing defense, giving up 136.3 yards per game. BQ got 146, actually BETTER than the other 2 teams (Cinci/Oak).
Baltimore is the #7 overall defense, giving up 282.7 yards per game...we shit the bed at 187....and I know we don't need to get into the passing game as that was atrocious.
The biggest problem is that we are averaging WELL below on the rushing game. Denver (78.4, we got 54), Minnesota (82, we got 89 which was decent), Baltimore (92.7, we got 71). When 89 is the TOP game, you know you are not lighting it up.
So, looking at the stats, you will see that BQ has actually done BETTER vs like competition than 4 other QB's....while the Baltimore game he got pulled despite going 6/8....where I think a change in ATTACK would have been better than a change in QB's.
The offense, overall, has struggled....but keep in mind that at the start of the season, we have actually done BETTER than the other opponents of these TOP RATED DEFENSES!
Coming up we have Cincinnati (#16 overall, #19 pass, #11 rush) and Buffalo (#28 overall, #28 pass, #18 rush). If we struggle against THESE 2 teams, we know we have a problem. This is why I think we NEED to start BQ. DA has already proven he can feast or famine against them (just see 2007 Cinci for proof).
THEY ARE ALL TOP TEN DEFENSES....CAUSE THEY PLAYED THE BROWNS! Don't be surprised if both Cincy and Buff don't move up in Defensive cats...after playing CB...take note
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I would love to see what Zombo and Atenears would have to say about this
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which is why I showed you that we did BETTER THAN THEIR AVERAGE in 2 out of 3 games...please double check the info.
John we went through this very same exercise last season when the wheels came off. We're losing - knowing why seems so empty anymore. We've been doing it for quite some time that there really is nowhere to go from here but straight to apathy.
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Masters said:
This made me think and go back to look at last years first 3 games.For those that don't remember, CLE started 0-3 last season with the following lines from the starting QB:
vs DAL 11/24, 114 yards, 4.8 Y/A, 0 INT, 1 TD, 74QBR
vs PIT 18/32, 166 yards, 5.2 Y/A, 2 INT, 0 TD, 44.5QBR
vs BAL 14/37, 125 yards, 3.4 Y/A, 3 INT, 1 TD, 22.9QBR
Is this years start really all that worse w/ a different guy under center, with less weapons on offense this year than last year?
how quickly we all forget
how quickly we all forget
The only people who forgot how horrendous DA was last year were Stan, Zombo and Lums.
The rest of us aren't wearing ass-colored glasses and trying to suckle the shit out of Anderson's anus, thinking that maybe this time it'll taste like turkish delight.
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how quickly we all forget
The only people who forgot how horrendous DA was last year were Stan, Zombo and Lums.
The rest of us aren't wearing ass-colored glasses and trying to suckle the shit out of Anderson's anus, thinking that maybe this time it'll taste like turkish delight.
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@jadbf said:
and when the shoe is on the other foot next week and people get a little out of hand returning the favor, the bans will be a flying!I don't think Stan likes DA as much as he dislikes Quinn. But yeah, we could see some MIA's and people on milk cartons next week. LOL.
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I will forever laugh at the "Trap Game" statement from now on. After ATE's trap game announcement was proven to be off course.
Now that I think of it, maybe im giving atenears too much shit, the day of and the days before the baltimore game he was in support of Quinn and said it was going to be his busting on the scene game.... you however (Zombo) I think actually believe that DA is better. Ive come to the conclusion that Atenears is messing with all of us
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@jadbf said:
WOW except for maybe Mangini, I'm not sure that list of 'experts' is one I'd want to align myself with......Not to mention Dilfer has backed off that. He was just saying in an article that Chuds O fit Quinn better and this O fits DA better. But both are good QBs who are beind done a disservice.
So how about Gruden saying Quinn is good, Jaws, and Steve Young saying it as well?
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